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Arvada police arrest 11 year old for drawing a picture at school

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Apple Pie

#1 Feb 22, 2011
ARVADA, Colo.-- An 11-year-old Arvada boy was arrested and hauled away in handcuffs for drawing stick figures in school - something his therapist told him to do.

His parents say they understand what he did was inappropriate, but are outraged by the way Arvada Police handled the case. The parents did not want their real names used.

They say "Tim" is being treated for Attention Deficit Disorder and his therapist told him to draw pictures when he got upset, rather than disrupt the class. So that’s what he did.

Last October, he drew stick figures of himself with a gun, pointed at four other stick figures with the words "teacher must die."

He felt calmer and was throwing the picture away when the teacher saw it and sent him to the principal's office.

The school was aware that the boy was in treatment, determined he was not a threat, notified his parents and sent him back to class. His mother, "Jane" was shocked when Arvada Police showed up at their home later that night.

She says she told her son to cooperate and tell the truth, but was horrified when they told her they were arresting him and then handcuffed him and hauled him away in a patrol car. His mother says she begged police to let her drive her son to the police department and to let her stay with him through the booking process but they refused.

They put him in a cell, took his mug shot and fingerprinted him. He says he thought he was going to jail and would never be able to go home again.

According to the police report, "Tim" explained he made the drawing to release anger and would never hurt teachers or anyone. At first school officials did not want to press charges, but changed their mind when police called them later that night. A juvenile assessment report shows he's never been in legal trouble before and is at low risk to reoffend.

He's charged with a third degree misdemeanor, interfering with staff and students at an educational facility. The system says it's doing what's in the best interest of the child. But Tim's therapist says handcuffing an 11-year-old and putting him in a cell over something like this is "quite an overreaction" and does much more harm than good.

Arvada Police say because Monday was a holiday, they are not able to get hold of all the personnel and reports to make a response, but will be able to respond Tuesday. Tim is on probation and if he completes that successfully, the criminal charges will be dropped. But his parents say it has cost them thousands of dollars so far.

And if they had known that their son’s cooperation would be used as evidence against him, they would have hired a lawyer at the beginning and exercised his right to remain silent.

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Apple Pie

#2 Feb 22, 2011
Can anybody say police state? Do we want to live in a society where the thought police can come to your home and haul your 11 year old off in handcuffs for drawing pictures?

When I was a kid we played cowboys and indians. I wonder how many years a kid would get for pointing a toy gun and yelling "you're dead".
Sniper

Louisville, CO

#3 Feb 22, 2011
This teacher needs to be fired ..This is just as ridiculous as banning squirt guns...In the old days a teacher would have talked to the student and resolved it themselves..What a waste of police and court ..

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Apple Pie

#4 Feb 22, 2011
Sniper wrote:
This teacher needs to be fired ..This is just as ridiculous as banning squirt guns...In the old days a teacher would have talked to the student and resolved it themselves..What a waste of police and court ..
Arvada is in Jefferson County. Put another notch is Scott Storey's belt. Another horrendous criminal convicted! Oops, no, another child tramatized. This isn't the first kid abused by the system in Jefferson County. I wonder when we're going to hear about them actually fighting crime instead of picking on little kids for being kids and octegenarians being convicted for exercising their right to defend themselves. Do they have so many extra cops that they have to make up crimes to stay busy?

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Since: Jan 11

Pflugerville, TX

#5 Feb 22, 2011
The baffling part is that the school called the police in the first place. I know schools are worries about lawsuits but this is over the top!!

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#6 Feb 22, 2011
Auntie Social List wrote:
Can anybody say police state? Do we want to live in a society where the thought police can come to your home and haul your 11 year old off in handcuffs for drawing pictures?
When I was a kid we played cowboys and indians. I wonder how many years a kid would get for pointing a toy gun and yelling "you're dead".
Must agree with you on this. My brother shot me with pellet guns and I'm ok. Your silhouette is very attractive

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Apple Pie

#7 Feb 22, 2011
Magic Joe wrote:
<quoted text>Must agree with you on this. My brother shot me with pellet guns and I'm ok. Your silhouette is very attractive
Why thank you, it's a disguise.

If I told you all the ways my sisters and I picked on each other they would probably still arrest me after all these years.
rinos suck

Denver, CO

#8 Feb 22, 2011
and lets not forget all public school teachers are union thugs, who get paid to uphold the party line. these people would love nothing more that to take everyones kids away from them and put them in indoctoranation institutions. if we keep on ignoring these outrages, it will just get worse.

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Apple Pie

#9 Feb 22, 2011
rinos suck wrote:
and lets not forget all public school teachers are union thugs, who get paid to uphold the party line. these people would love nothing more that to take everyones kids away from them and put them in indoctoranation institutions. if we keep on ignoring these outrages, it will just get worse.
How much worse does it have to get? The thought police arrested arrested a little boy that might, someday in the future, commit a crime, or not. Used to be you had to actually go ahead a commit the crime to get arrested. I guess now you don't.
Mom of an adopted kid

Littleton, CO

#10 Feb 22, 2011
My adopted son has his issues and the teacher and principle at his school (weld county) helped me find ways to help him. I BET that if we lived in Lakewood that I would be going through the same thing. They sent him back to class then later called the police! Are you kidding me? The principle should be fired in addition to the teacher! The school therapist should be fired too! They are professionals who should know how to deal with these type of situations better. The child was doing what his family therapist told him to do as an outlet and the school knew he had issues.

If it were their kid...what would they do if their child was pulled away from home by the police? What about the long run of trama in this childs mind that this will cause? This is an outrage!

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#11 Feb 23, 2011
You know using these rules none of us has to commit a crime to be arrested. All we have to do is think about committing a crime. According to these rules anyone who makes a violent movie should be arrested. Isn't a movie just a glorified picture? How about if a bitter ex-wife could get you arrested because you "might" harm her instead of just getting a restraining order.

Used to be you actually had to commit the crime before you got arrested. Now apparently all you have to do is think about it.

Welcome to the United Socialist States of America. The gestapo is now in place. You can be hauled out of your house in handcuffs for drawing a violent picture. How long before it moves forward to an arrest for watching a violent movie?
Mom of an adopted kid

Littleton, CO

#12 Feb 23, 2011
I can see adults being held accountable for their actions but a child? Really! These adults should be looking at the underlying issues here and help the kid but they are not helping the kid by arresting him. I adopted a kid who came from five different foster homes and even had major problems in school but the teachers nor the principle reacted like this. If only more schools were more like Lochbuie Elementary school! They teach, they care! Never in a million years would they have put ANY CHILD in this situation because they are professionals and educated in ways to deal with any situation. This kid that got arrested, why did they send him back to class then decide to have him arrested? Why not suspend him from school? That should have been the worse solution to this problem because arresting a little boy is seriously wrong!

I say fire the princple, the teacher, the school counselor, and the police need a serious wake up call. I hope those police officers felt real big arresting a small child. One day if their kids turn out to be like the real criminals they arrest, I hope they reflect back to this child and realize maybe they should have been a bit more understanding...as they hope the damn law gives their children the benefit of the doubt.

What goes around, comes around.
BTW...with the help of my sons teachers and principle, my son is doing a FANTASTIC job and all his troubles are a thing of his past.

More educators need to be like this!

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Since: Apr 10

They do unto you

#13 Feb 24, 2011
i've seen the samething here in WVa, and have first hand experience with it. the teachers don't care about the kids only themselves. they try and force the parents to give there childern meds for ADHD or some other hyperactive disorder when, their family doctor says the kids are just fine. if they have a problem with the child, they do everything in there power to get rid of the child and resort to any means possible. if your going to be a teacher, then teach and have compassion for the kids, not contempt.

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Pflugerville, TX

#14 Feb 24, 2011
mr goodwrench wrote:
i've seen the samething here in WVa, and have first hand experience with it. the teachers don't care about the kids only themselves. they try and force the parents to give there childern meds for ADHD or some other hyperactive disorder when, their family doctor says the kids are just fine. if they have a problem with the child, they do everything in there power to get rid of the child and resort to any means possible. if your going to be a teacher, then teach and have compassion for the kids, not contempt.
I agree to a certain point but I don't think that the teachers don't care as much as the liability. They are required to report every little thing since columbine and now the school districts think they have to act on everything! The common sense has been lost in frivolous lawsuits and people trying to get a quick buck so it has tied the hands of many professions in taking issues further than it should just to avoid lawsuits.

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They do unto you

#15 Feb 24, 2011
Ralphie1 wrote:
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I agree to a certain point but I don't think that the teachers don't care as much as the liability. They are required to report every little thing since columbine and now the school districts think they have to act on everything! The common sense has been lost in frivolous lawsuits and people trying to get a quick buck so it has tied the hands of many professions in taking issues further than it should just to avoid lawsuits.
yes, i agree about columbine. some are afraid of a repeat of it. while in grade school, my son was considered a "problem" child and all they wanted was for us to have him put on a hypredisorder medication. they even threatened to bring us to court to have him put on it. our family DR tested him several different times and found no disorder what so ever. the school had him tested and was angry because they could not find anything wrong. our DR stated he was just a little high strung and no meds was needed. even so, we had to threaten to sue to keep him off of the meds. he's in high school now, a JR, with very good grades, plays football for them and has no "problems". they just didn't want to deal with him or some of his buddies that also went through the same treatment as he did.
medica

Khor, Qatar

#16 Apr 29, 2011
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United States

#17 Apr 29, 2011
medica wrote:
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#18 Apr 29, 2011
denmoooo wrote:
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My black cow eats green grass and gives white milk?????
Interesting.
ArvadaRepublican

United States

#19 Apr 29, 2011
The Arvada Police did the right thing, to prevent another Colombine we must nip it early. Anyone who doesnt like it can go back to being a whiney liberal.
Nation of Imbeciles

San Antonio, TX

#20 Apr 29, 2011
Arvada PD is loaded with nature loving peacenik morons. The teacher and the principal likely embraced each other as they enjoyed multiple orgasms while observing the police apply handcuffs to the young boy. If the young boy had "resusted arrest" and assaulted the officers, he could likely be in jail facing felony charges.

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