Racism, prejudice, intolerance: as American as apple pie

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Torchwood

Cedarpines Park, CA

#43 Oct 28, 2009
Fabioso wrote:
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What do you think?
Yep, it looks like your racism is clearly evident, but thanks for the proof!
Chicago Guy

Winnetka, IL

#44 Oct 28, 2009
Fabioso wrote:
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No, I think the data bear me out on this. Internet message boards attract people with opinions that they do not feel comfortable expressing in public. Anonymity provides them the freedom to say what they really think, and I find what these people really think to be disturbing.
And I didn't ask you for your life story, nor was my comment specifically directed at you. But if you fit the bill, it matters little what your last name is.
I think you're absolutely right.

But the new strategy for conservatives regarding race seems to be "I know you are but what am I?"

As silly as that sounds, it comes from the punditry and party leadership all the way down to the dregs who make Topix their home.

By this new bullshit paradigm, anyone who MENTIONS race is, by default, a "racist".

So if someone uses a vicious racial slur, that probably goes unnoticed. But if you point it out, well then you are "playing the race card", and so you are a "racist".

It's stupid and nonsensical, but as this thread shows, there's usually enough racist idiots to pile on and agree-- so I honestly believe they think they're making valid and clever points.
Torchwood

Cedarpines Park, CA

#45 Oct 28, 2009
Fabioso wrote:
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Are you smoking crack or something?
Do you think you could point out the post where I said anything remotely racist?
What color is the sky on your planet?
When you assume some people are posting racist statements when it clearly is not there, then the poster (you) that assumes that animosity must have the racial bias and therefore, be a racist. When you stop your racial bias and prejudice, then we can stop calling you racist Fabioso, OK?
Fabioso

Tallahassee, FL

#46 Oct 28, 2009
an american wrote:
<quoted text>Hea Angry just mention that the ACLU sucks!!
Yes, let's drag the debate down to a level at which you can actually participate: empty slogans, bereft of any substantive argument.
Fabioso

Tallahassee, FL

#47 Oct 28, 2009
Chicago Guy wrote:
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I think you're absolutely right.
But the new strategy for conservatives regarding race seems to be "I know you are but what am I?"
As silly as that sounds, it comes from the punditry and party leadership all the way down to the dregs who make Topix their home.
By this new bullshit paradigm, anyone who MENTIONS race is, by default, a "racist".
So if someone uses a vicious racial slur, that probably goes unnoticed. But if you point it out, well then you are "playing the race card", and so you are a "racist".
It's stupid and nonsensical, but as this thread shows, there's usually enough racist idiots to pile on and agree-- so I honestly believe they think they're making valid and clever points.
Well they have to try something, don't they? It's all too easy for the rest of us to simply scratch the surface of their arguments and find racist motivations beneath.
Fabioso

Tallahassee, FL

#48 Oct 28, 2009
Torchwood wrote:
<quoted text>When you assume some people are posting racist statements when it clearly is not there, then the poster (you) that assumes that animosity must have the racial bias and therefore, be a racist. When you stop your racial bias and prejudice, then we can stop calling you racist Fabioso, OK?
I merely posed a question, and the rest was filled in by others assuming facts not in evidence.

Animosity doesn't always have a racial basis, but in my experience regarding this issue in particular, it usually isn't very hard to find.

Chicago Guy explained perfectly what you just tried to do. Nevertheless, nothing I said in this thread can reasonably be interpreted as racist.

But some people have an awfully hard time being reasonable about such topics.
angry

Denver, CO

#49 Oct 28, 2009
Fabioso wrote:
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No, you actually just pulled it right out of your ass, were wrong, and now you are trying to save face with this farcical explanation.
Busted.
so explain to me what you were trying to accomplish with your first post then.
Fabioso

Tallahassee, FL

#50 Oct 28, 2009
angry wrote:
<quoted text>so explain to me what you were trying to accomplish with your first post then.
To draw out idiot trolls like you.

Mission accomplished.

No really, this is a thread ABOUT RACISM, is it not?

If you read more carefully, you would probably have realized that my post was a response to post #5, which is patently racist. Now in hindsight I suppose I could have quoted it, but I thought it rather obvious.
an american

Tallahassee, FL

#51 Oct 28, 2009
Fabioso wrote:
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Yes, let's drag the debate down to a level at which you can actually participate: empty slogans, bereft of any substantive argument.
Shouldn't you be on a 30mm case somewhere? After all you must be needed. As an attorey not~! you were busted a long time ago you phony want a be. And do not tell me I need reading comprehension, that I am stupid, racist or any of your old rhetoric, it's old and boring as you are
Bonnie

Boise, ID

#52 Oct 28, 2009
Fabioso wrote:
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To draw out idiot trolls like you.
Mission accomplished.
No really, this is a thread ABOUT RACISM, is it not?
If you read more carefully, you would probably have realized that my post was a response to post #5, which is patently racist. Now in hindsight I suppose I could have quoted it, but I thought it rather obvious.
Gawd, I hate the A.C.L.U. Have some chezz rat!
Fabioso

Tallahassee, FL

#53 Oct 28, 2009
an american wrote:
<quoted text>Shouldn't you be on a 30mm case somewhere? After all you must be needed. As an attorey not~! you were busted a long time ago you phony want a be. And do not tell me I need reading comprehension, that I am stupid, racist or any of your old rhetoric, it's old and boring as you are
I don't have to tell you or anyone else that you are stupid.

Your posts speak for themselves.
an american

Tallahassee, FL

#54 Oct 28, 2009
Fabioso wrote:
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I don't have to tell you or anyone else that you are stupid.
Your posts speak for themselves.
If you feel the facts are stupid it only reflects you! Because they are about you. So you admit you are stupid. well good how about that 30mm case?
Patriot

West Plains, MO

#55 Oct 28, 2009
Torchwood wrote:
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English is the official language of many states, counties and cities. It is just not federally mandate because of the reconquistas and socialists. However, there is a bill up there to make it federally mandated!
The Founding Fathers voted on which language our nation would use.
By one vote it was English vs German.
Alot of people including those in Washington need to go back to school. Relearn their history. Seems as if they have forgotten much of it. As is said those who forget history are bound to repeat it.
Racism, prejudice is taught. It time our youth taught adults about not being racist, or prejudice.
an american

Tallahassee, FL

#56 Oct 28, 2009
Fabioso wrote:
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To draw out idiot trolls like you.
Mission accomplished.
No really, this is a thread ABOUT RACISM, is it not?
If you read more carefully, you would probably have realized that my post was a response to post #5, which is patently racist. Now in hindsight I suppose I could have quoted it, but I thought it rather obvious.
He Fabeano you are a ACLU troll racist and chezze eater and idiot. and in hidsight where is your 30mm lawsuti?

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Level 1

Since: Mar 07

Denver, but on pause...

#57 Oct 28, 2009
Personally, I don't give a damn which country ILLEGALS come from, what color they are, or the language they speak...
NOTHING changes the FACT that they have no business here ILLEGALLY...
Bonnie

Boise, ID

#59 Oct 28, 2009
Fabioso wrote:
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Are you smoking crack or something?
Do you think you could point out the post where I said anything remotely racist?
What color is the sky on your planet?
You just seem to make friends wherever you go Fabby.. Have ya checked the pits?... Tick tacks?

“"Fortes Fortuna Juvat!!!”

Level 1

Since: Apr 09

Atlanta Georgia

#60 Oct 28, 2009
Garrig wrote:
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I don't think that Mexicans that come over care about or even know about the war in 1848. They really are trying to improve their which is understandable when you realize the conditions they come from. What I don't like is the leniency we afford them in not forcing them to assimilate..providing things in Spanish etc. As you said, most Asians and others have no problems assimilating and learning the language. Why should Mexicans be so special? I hate to say it, but there is some insinuation in all this that maybe they are not as smart some as the rest and need special help to make it by...just saying what some are thinking..
Well I don't think any race is "superior" to another. I DO believe that some traits and attributes of other races are superior in the sense that they are more "advanced" technologically. No I think that Mexicans are f##kin being enticed over here by greedy corporations as well as both political parties in an attempt to break the American middle/working class. I also see Mexicans not learning English for what I believe it to truely be. God-d#mned defiance pure and simple!! I see right through their "stupido" act and know full f##kin well that theirs is a deliberate and willful attempt to force their language into mainstream society. I would feel just as offended if it were my own original people the Scots and Danes pushing the Gaelic or Danish language. It is like I tried to explain to Jorge. It is only racial to the offenders. The Mexicans are NOT singled out because they are Mexican. They are de-ported the most because they are here in greater numbers. I agree that Mexico's social system is pure shit. Mexico is NOT a poor country yet all of that countries wealth and privilege are held by LESS than 40% of that country's people. The Nortenos. Therefore the REAL fault and blame belongs solely to Mexico. Mexicans would get A LOT more support from Americans if they were to go for an armed revolt in their own country. Now that would be some "redistribution of wealth" that Ameircans could support.

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Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#61 Oct 28, 2009
kobadger wrote:
<quoted text> Well I don't think any race is "superior" to another. I DO believe that some traits and attributes of other races are superior in the sense that they are more "advanced" technologically. No I think that Mexicans are f##kin being enticed over here by greedy corporations as well as both political parties in an attempt to break the American middle/working class. I also see Mexicans not learning English for what I believe it to truely be. God-d#mned defiance pure and simple!!.
Perhaps, but I can tell you that there is a certain amount of cultural intimidation which many Latinos deal with, where they feel they might not measure up or be able to assimilate well into American culture. Hence many perfer to cling to their "comfort zone."
Torchwood

Cedarpines Park, CA

#62 Oct 28, 2009
Fabioso wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, let's drag the debate down to a level at which you can actually participate: empty slogans, bereft of any substantive argument.
As if you add that much with your racism, bias, and prejudice! You know the "racist" word sledge hammer that the racist Latino organization use to stamp out debate!
Torchwood

Cedarpines Park, CA

#63 Oct 28, 2009
Fabioso wrote:
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I merely posed a question, and the rest was filled in by others assuming facts not in evidence.
Animosity doesn't always have a racial basis, but in my experience regarding this issue in particular, it usually isn't very hard to find.
Chicago Guy explained perfectly what you just tried to do. Nevertheless, nothing I said in this thread can reasonably be interpreted as racist.
But some people have an awfully hard time being reasonable about such topics.
Then why post what you posted to get people riled up? Not necessary at all - just a hateful position by you!

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