Colo. gay discrimination alleged over wedding cake

Jun 6, 2013 Full story: Denver Post 5,303

Engaged gay couple Dave Mullins, second from left, and Charlie Craig, left, were joined by a small group of supporters in Lakewood on Aug. 4, 2012 to protest and boycott the Masterpiece Cakeshop at 3355 S. Wadsworth Blvd. The couple went to the cake shop, and the owner turned the couple away saying he would not make them a rainbow-themed wedding ... (more)

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Rainbow Kid

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#933 Jan 21, 2014
Respect71 wrote:
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I thought you were done with me?
When you can explain why it's okay to break laws at gay pride events then maybe we can talk more about constitutional rights for ALL Americans and not just lgbt people.
The reason we do not break laws at Pride Parades is because we want the city to schedule our return next year. Each parade position (or float) pays a fee to participate; is approved by city code inspectors; and is issued a position number for the parade lineup
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Next year's parade is scheduled and the deposit is paid when this year's parade contract is fulfilled; so it is a precise and orderly process
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Pride Parade is an organized full-time charitable organization; not a flash mob

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#934 Jan 21, 2014
Christaliban wrote:
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Hey alcoholic fer jaysus, there's no "right" to discriminate in places of public accommodation, and there hasn't been for decades, you stupid rube.
Except in this case where a wedding cake symbolizes the man-woman relationship in marriage.

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#935 Jan 21, 2014
Christaliban wrote:
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Nothing of the sort need be shown. As I said it's simple fact that marriage equality exists and is the same through most of the industrialized democracies. Really about all of them, except for the ones saddled with too many sexually deranged, uber religious mullahs.
Drunk, you were trying to say you don't like the fact that marriage equality exists, that same sex marriages exist. Not even a drunken dunderhead like you can claim they simply don't. Even fundie denial can't sustain that level of delusion.
Okay, trash?
There is no such thing and “Marriage equality”. There is marriage and there is “same-sex marriage” and neither is equal (keep in mind equal means SAME). You don’t have to like the fact the it doesn’t exist, except in your head.

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#936 Jan 21, 2014
Xavier Breath wrote:
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Honey, people who say the baker was "discriminating against a cake" need to keep quiet. Someone might tip off the nurse that you have escaped the institution.
I never typed “discriminating against a cake”. If you would like clarification then ask as apposed to holding on to ignorance.

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#937 Jan 21, 2014
Xavier Breath wrote:
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Obviously, that freedom only exists in your head.
Obviously your are against freedom.

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#938 Jan 21, 2014
Xavier Breath wrote:
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I wrote: "huh?" That means this: Your question makes no sense.
What negative was I trying to prove?
Read your other ID posts

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#939 Jan 21, 2014
Xavier Breath wrote:
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Do you ever write a reply that makes sense? What is un-American is willfully lying about a minority group. And I hate to tell you, but if the government has a legitimate interest, it may deny equal protection. Don't you know anything?
A great deal actually.

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#940 Jan 21, 2014
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Bull. It is not REMOTELY "dishonest" in any way. This IS about equality, and hell yes same sex relationships ARE equal to straight ones. Marriage equality is a FACT.
Explain.

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#941 Jan 21, 2014
OkieDarren wrote:
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First off, that is NOT what happens at gay pride events. And NO you don't get to violate civil rights laws and say "Oh, but this OTHER person broke the law, so I can do whatever I want!" Doesn't work that way.
Then why all the photos every time?

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#942 Jan 21, 2014
OkieDarren wrote:
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Don't you DARE stand there and claim Dr. King would support your bigotry and hate, LIAR! This IS discrimination against a group, and if you think for a second King would support this discrimination, you don't know the first damn thing about Martin Luther King...like most on the extremist right.
Apparently you didn’t read my post because that exactly what I stated...

Dr. King was one of the greatest, Godliest men in American history and he would be ashamed of those of you who choose to smear Christians to push your personal gay agenda.

And the NOT selling a wedding cake to a gay couple is NOWHERE CLOSE to discrimination against a GROUP. Freedom applies to ALL Americans. You can’t have your and then restrict others.

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#943 Jan 21, 2014
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Insane hypocrisy. You claim to celebrate "civil rights for all Americans" and then want to OPPOSE civil rights for Americans who happen to be gay.
And yes, King was a Christian. He was also a socialist, pro-choice, and pro-gay rights, so the right's blasphemous perversion of what Christianity is gets blown up here.
Sorry, I am claiming it for ALL. Like Dr King, I am a a Christian and I stand of civil rights for ALL Americans. Gays and the Baker...
King was NOT a socialist... You are wring there.

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#944 Jan 21, 2014
OkieDarren wrote:
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This has ZIP to do with gay pride events, it is a TINY minority of people even at the wildest event, and at the overwhelming majority nothing remotely close to this happens.
The idea that all who support gay pride are "criminals" because of these puritanical laws is hysterical.
If you say it’s a tiny minority then why so many picture come from EVERY event?

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#945 Jan 21, 2014
Rainbow Kid wrote:
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The reason we do not break laws at Pride Parades is because we want the city to schedule our return next year. Each parade position (or float) pays a fee to participate; is approved by city code inspectors; and is issued a position number for the parade lineup
.
Next year's parade is scheduled and the deposit is paid when this year's parade contract is fulfilled; so it is a precise and orderly process
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Pride Parade is an organized full-time charitable organization; not a flash mob
So therefore what? The decency or disorderly conduct laws are NOT violated?

Yeah, not so much.

I still support the events because we ALL deserve our liberties.
Xavier Breath

Brooklyn, NY

#948 Jan 21, 2014
Respect71 wrote:
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Except in this case where a wedding cake symbolizes the man-woman relationship in marriage.
A cake symbolizes a man-woman relationship? Are you retarded?
Xavier Breath

Brooklyn, NY

#949 Jan 21, 2014
Respect71 wrote:
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Obviously your are against freedom.
Nope. I'm against stupid people shooting their mouths off. Your 'sarah palin' argument won't get you very far in the real world.
Xavier Breath

Brooklyn, NY

#950 Jan 21, 2014
Respect71 wrote:
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Apparently you didn’t read my post because that exactly what I stated...
Dr. King was one of the greatest, Godliest men in American history and he would be ashamed of those of you who choose to smear Christians to push your personal gay agenda.
And the NOT selling a wedding cake to a gay couple is NOWHERE CLOSE to discrimination against a GROUP. Freedom applies to ALL Americans. You can’t have your and then restrict others.
OMFG! Are you serious? The gay couple BELONGS to a group.... a group that is a protected class.

How dare you speak for Dr. King. You are a clueless fool.
His WIFE says he would have supported gay rights. http://nuancestillmatters.com/... and I think she knew him better than you did.

Bayard Rustin was gay. Do you even know who that is?

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#951 Jan 21, 2014
Christaliban wrote:
<quoted text>Hey Drunk fer Jaysus, as a simple, legal reality there is marriage equality.

The fact that it activates your hate and your complete befuddlement at contemporary (post 1900) society does not mean it's not a fact.
Still waiting for you to explain how a man-woman relationship is equal to (or the same as) a gay relationship... Clue; it's not, thus "marriage equality is a myth".

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#952 Jan 21, 2014
Christaliban wrote:
<quoted text>What you typed was, in fact, less coherent that that version of it.
Because you reading skills lack.

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#953 Jan 21, 2014
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>A cake symbolizes a man-woman relationship? Are you retarded?
To the baker it does and it's not up to you or government to face him to believe otherwise or punish him for his belief.

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#954 Jan 21, 2014
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>Nope. I'm against stupid people shooting their mouths off. Your 'sarah palin' argument won't get you very far in the real world.
So to you "stupid people" should be punished by government and rights removed because you think they are "stupid people"?

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