You rule the planet. How do you save the human race from distinction?

[Kawalski]

I have grandcildren your age.

I'm sorry for yor 3 year old. But I guess there is worse...NOT!!!

[Respect71]

Kawalski wrote:

I have grandcildren your age.
I'm sorry for yor 3 year old. But I guess there is worse...NOT!!!

The point is government doesn't GIVE Americans our freedom… Nor did the government that Jammercolo is referring to… Jammercolo simply hates America, her values, and desires failing socialism to be that prominent system for America.

Freedoms come from God… When government refuses to protect our freedoms it’s time for a new government.

[Jammercolo]

Respect71 wrote:

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Learn history. My three year old knows better than you.

ROFLMAO

[Jammercolo]

Respect71 wrote:

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The point is government doesn't GIVE Americans our freedom… Nor did the government that Jammercolo is referring to… Jammercolo simply hates America, her values, and desires failing socialism to be that prominent system for America.
Freedoms come from God… When government refuses to protect our freedoms it’s time for a new government.

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liar liar pants on fire. hanging on a telephone wire.

I'm more for freedom then you are. I agree with freedom to worship any god you want.In any form you want.Can you say the same?

[Respect71]

Jammercolo wrote:

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liar liar pants on fire. hanging on a telephone wire.
I'm more for freedom then you are. I agree with freedom to worship any god you want.In any form you want.Can you say the same?

Yes I can...
But do you support OBAMACARE that forces private citizens and companies to PAY for birth control and abortions, regardless of their religious beliefs?
Sorry, but your socialist beliefs are not about freedom it’s about controlling the masses… The same charge you make against Christianity.

[Jammercolo]

Respect71 wrote:

<quoted text>Yes I can...
But do you support OBAMACARE that forces private citizens and companies to PAY for birth control and abortions, regardless of their religious beliefs?

Obamacare DOES NOT pay for abortions. YOU LIE!!!

Birth control yes.

I also support putting parents in jail for faith healing their kids to death regardless of their religious beliefs.

Do you support parents faith healing children to death?

Respect71 wrote:

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Sorry, but your socialist beliefs are not about freedom it’s about controlling the masses… The same charge you make against Christianity.

If you support freedom why not let women decide what best for her body?

Why are the freest countries all socialist?

Why are the least free countries all heavy religious?

[Respect71]

Jammercolo wrote:

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Obamacare DOES NOT pay for abortions. YOU LIE!!!
Birth control yes.
I also support putting parents in jail for faith healing their kids to death regardless of their religious beliefs.
Do you support parents faith healing children to death?
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If you support freedom why not let women decide what best for her body?
Why are the freest countries all socialist?
Why are the least free countries all heavy religious?

“Obamacare DOES NOT pay for abortions. YOU LIE!!!” LOL… Sorry pal, you’re lying to yourself if you don’t pay attention. AND is blatantly removes the rights of Christians or anyone who doesn’t believe in abortion.

“Birth control yes.” blatantly removes the rights of Christians or anyone who doesn’t believe in Birth Control.

“I also support putting parents in jail for faith healing their kids to death regardless of their religious beliefs.” Why and who are you to judge?

“Do you support parents faith healing children to death?” Parent’s have rights to how they raise their children, not you or our government.

Respect71 wrote:
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Sorry, but your socialist beliefs are not about freedom it’s about controlling the masses… The same charge you make against Christianity.
“If you support freedom why not let women decide what best for her body?” I do but I expect our government to NOT use public funds to support abortions and birth control. BUT they do.

“Why are the freest countries all socialist?” They aren’t… Greece and Spain!

“Why are the least free countries all heavy religious?” Our Country is pretty religious and Israel is as well yet they are the more free.

[Jammercolo]

Respect71 wrote:

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“Obamacare DOES NOT pay for abortions. YOU LIE!!!” LOL… Sorry pal, you’re lying to yourself if you don’t pay attention. AND is blatantly removes the rights of Christians or anyone who doesn’t believe in abortion.
“Birth control yes.” blatantly removes the rights of Christians or anyone who doesn’t believe in Birth Control.
“I also support putting parents in jail for faith healing their kids to death regardless of their religious beliefs.” Why and who are you to judge?
“Do you support parents faith healing children to death?” Parent’s have rights to how they raise their children, not you or our government.
Respect71 wrote:
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Sorry, but your socialist beliefs are not about freedom it’s about controlling the masses… The same charge you make against Christianity.
“If you support freedom why not let women decide what best for her body?” I do but I expect our government to NOT use public funds to support abortions and birth control. BUT they do.
“Why are the freest countries all socialist?” They aren’t… Greece and Spain!
“Why are the least free countries all heavy religious?” Our Country is pretty religious and Israel is as well yet they are the more free.

Israel has national health insurance that is 100% not-for-profit and covers abortions under the following reasons
1)The woman is below marriage age (nowadays 17) or over 40 years of age
2)The Pregnancy is a result of an illegal contact (Rape or Incest) or outside of the marriage
3)The embryo may be born with a physical or mental illness
4)The pregnancy may harm the woman
All abortions are done in state hospitals.

Israel has admitted to forcing birth control shots on Ethiopian immigrants.
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/342250

Israel also has laws against faith healing minors.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-409...

and on the freedom index usa is in 10th polace Israel is in 51 place.
http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking

[Respect71]

Jammercolo wrote:

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Israel has national health insurance that is 100% not-for-profit and covers abortions under the following reasons
1)The woman is below marriage age (nowadays 17) or over 40 years of age
2)The Pregnancy is a result of an illegal contact (Rape or Incest) or outside of the marriage
3)The embryo may be born with a physical or mental illness
4)The pregnancy may harm the woman
All abortions are done in state hospitals.
Israel has admitted to forcing birth control shots on Ethiopian immigrants.
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/342250
Israel also has laws against faith healing minors.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-409...
and on the freedom index usa is in 10th polace Israel is in 51 place.
http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking

So they are not free...???

[Respect71]

Jammercolo wrote:

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Israel has national health insurance that is 100% not-for-profit and covers abortions under the following reasons
1)The woman is below marriage age (nowadays 17) or over 40 years of age
2)The Pregnancy is a result of an illegal contact (Rape or Incest) or outside of the marriage
3)The embryo may be born with a physical or mental illness
4)The pregnancy may harm the woman
All abortions are done in state hospitals.
Israel has admitted to forcing birth control shots on Ethiopian immigrants.
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/342250
Israel also has laws against faith healing minors.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-409...
and on the freedom index usa is in 10th polace Israel is in 51 place.
http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking

You need to clarify your point...

[Jammercolo]

Respect71 wrote:

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You need to clarify your point...

With you not sure it is possible. I will try.

You said Israel is free but they have everything you hate. Israel has national health insurance that everyone MUST pay for. They have low cost birth control they have government paid for abortions and NO for-profit health insurance companies. In Israel it is a crime to faith heal children to death.

In other words you need to add Israel to your hated socialist county list.

[Respect71]

Jammercolo wrote:

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With you not sure it is possible. I will try.
You said Israel is free but they have everything you hate. Israel has national health insurance that everyone MUST pay for. They have low cost birth control they have government paid for abortions and NO for-profit health insurance companies. In Israel it is a crime to faith heal children to death.
In other words you need to add Israel to your hated socialist county list.

You asked,“Why are the least free countries all heavy religious?” And I showed you Israel as an example to refute your contention… Apparently you are wrong and choose to divert to another subject to cover that fact.

[Kawalski]

Respect71 wrote:

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“Obamacare DOES NOT pay for abortions. YOU LIE!!!” LOL… Sorry pal, you’re lying to yourself if you don’t pay attention. AND is blatantly removes the rights of Christians or anyone who doesn’t believe in abortion.
“Birth control yes.” blatantly removes the rights of Christians or anyone who doesn’t believe in Birth Control.
“I also support putting parents in jail for faith healing their kids to death regardless of their religious beliefs.” Why and who are you to judge?
“Do you support parents faith healing children to death?” Parent’s have rights to how they raise their children, not you or our government.
Respect71 wrote:
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Sorry, but your socialist beliefs are not about freedom it’s about controlling the masses… The same charge you make against Christianity.
“If you support freedom why not let women decide what best for her body?” I do but I expect our government to NOT use public funds to support abortions and birth control. BUT they do.
“Why are the freest countries all socialist?” They aren’t… Greece and Spain!
“Why are the least free countries all heavy religious?” Our Country is pretty religious and Israel is as well yet they are the more free.

The fact is NO ONE is correct at this time! We still don't know ow this is going to play out. With this issue we simply have to avoid any plans yet, things still have a number of ways of changing. Big changes and little pieces changed, it is all still a mess.
To NOT have Obama care..I'm sorry, it just makes me sick when people complain about Obama care. Ok, the pieces like abortion I can understand the discussion but as for finally having a health care system in this country, YOU CAN TANK GOD!!!

[Kawalski]

I'm aving trouble with my H's. Sorry if I left some out in my posts:):)

hHHH hh HHH Tis really sucks. I ad bete get a new key pad:):) Loll

[Respect71]

Kawalski wrote:

<quoted text>The fact is NO ONE is correct at this time! We still don't know ow this is going to play out. With this issue we simply have to avoid any plans yet, things still have a number of ways of changing. Big changes and little pieces changed, it is all still a mess.
To NOT have Obama care..I'm sorry, it just makes me sick when people complain about Obama care. Ok, the pieces like abortion I can understand the discussion but as for finally having a health care system in this country, YOU CAN TANK GOD!!!

You are correct… We don’t know the full extent of this 2500+ page bill, but based on the record of it so far there will be more Constitutional issues with it, and expenses for Americans will go up. As for the system, we went from having a relatively manageable system to a huge, most likely unmanageable and very expensive system which will cause our debt to expand. The Ironic part is baby boomers helped support this bill and they will be the first to be denied care because of their age… Sad really.

[Jammercolo]

Respect71 wrote:

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You asked,“Why are the least free countries all heavy religious?” And I showed you Israel as an example to refute your contention… Apparently you are wrong and choose to divert to another subject to cover that fact.

Israel is heavy religious and ranks low in freedom. United States been losing freedom at a quick rate sense Christian fundamentalist took control of republican party.

It fits very well with what I said.

[Respect71]

Jammercolo wrote:

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Israel is heavy religious and ranks low in freedom. United States been losing freedom at a quick rate sense Christian fundamentalist took control of republican party.
It fits very well with what I said.

LOL... Good luck with that assertion.

[Kawalski]

Respect71 wrote:

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You are correct… We don’t know the full extent of this 2500+ page bill, but based on the record of it so far there will be more Constitutional issues with it, and expenses for Americans will go up. As for the system, we went from having a relatively manageable system to a huge, most likely unmanageable and very expensive system which will cause our debt to expand. The Ironic part is baby boomers helped support this bill and they will be the first to be denied care because of their age… Sad really.

Oh boy, now we can have te discussion I have always wanted!!!

I was born with Tourette's Syndrome. I'm 60 years old & got diognosed when I was 24. Back then no one knew anything about it but thanks to people like myself most people know a little bit.

Point being,(this is just to start with) my entire life was effected needlessly due to insurance companies and our HEALT CARE SYSTEM!!! I could not get health insurance but better than that is the fact that I COULD NOT GET WORKMANS COMP OR ANY JOB INSURANCE!!!

So to start with you tell me why I should be forced out of the work place because fuc,i,g insurance would not take me? No kind of group insurance, NONE!!! Let me also save you a little embarrasment. For over 20 years I served on the Rocky Mountain Region Tourette's Syndrome Associatio's Board of Directors. I was the only one on te board that did not have ten or more lrtters after my name (I embellished:):)) but I did have to get a college degree to do this VOLENTEER work. We faught insurance companies every day on every level. Won many law suits also. So please don't underestimate my knowledge of this area.

[Kawalski]

I ran through that post without thinking about spelling and was going to fix it when I was done. I FORGOT SINCE I was so mad. I hope you can read it:):)

[Respect71]

Kawalski wrote:

<quoted text>Oh boy, now we can have te discussion I have always wanted!!!
I was born with Tourette's Syndrome. I'm 60 years old & got diognosed when I was 24. Back then no one knew anything about it but thanks to people like myself most people know a little bit.
Point being,(this is just to start with) my entire life was effected needlessly due to insurance companies and our HEALT CARE SYSTEM!!! I could not get health insurance but better than that is the fact that I COULD NOT GET WORKMANS COMP OR ANY JOB INSURANCE!!!
So to start with you tell me why I should be forced out of the work place because fuc,i,g insurance would not take me? No kind of group insurance, NONE!!! Let me also save you a little embarrasment. For over 20 years I served on the Rocky Mountain Region Tourette's Syndrome Associatio's Board of Directors. I was the only one on te board that did not have ten or more lrtters after my name (I embellished:):)) but I did have to get a college degree to do this VOLENTEER work. We faught insurance companies every day on every level. Won many law suits also. So please don't underestimate my knowledge of this area.

Dude… That’s life. What do you want me to say?“OH I’M SOOO SORRY! LET’S HAVE THE GOVERNMENT AND TAXPAYERS MAKE YOUR LIFE BETTER.”
I have a friend who’s baby was born at 20 weeks gestation… They met their insurance deductible the day he was born and their life time insurance coverage was met when the sweet kid hit a year of age. They had to ask for help from family, friends and charities and now he is 5-years-old and thriving… His parents spending most of their time to pay for medical expenses for him, and I can assure you they work very hard to keep things afloat. He will have trouble with finding a job that will fit his condition, but because of his parents I have no doubt he will take life on to the best of his abilities.
Life is, and even the healthiest of people lose a job, insurance, and house (especially these past 4 years) but the answer isn’t government involvement, the answer lies with Americans and the American Dream… THAT doesn’t come from government, THAT comes from our hearts.