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While turning oceans to acid.
Global warming is causing a silent storm in the oceans by acidifying waters at a record rate, threatening marine life from coral reefs to fish stocks, an international study showed on Thursday.
The report, by 540 experts in 37 nations, said the seas could become 170 percent more acidic by 2100 compared to levels before the Industrial Revolution. Carbon dioxide, the main greenhouse gas, can become a mild acid when mixed with water.
Acidification is combining with a warming of ocean waters, also caused by a build-up of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, and other man-made factors such as higher pollution and overfishing, the report said.
"It is like the silent storm - you can't hear it, you can't feel it," Carol Turley, a senior scientist at the Plymouth Marine Laboratory in England, told Reuters.
The study, released on the sidelines of a meeting of almost 200 nations in Warsaw on ways to slow global warming, estimated that acidity of the oceans had already increased by 26 percent since the Industrial Revolution in the 18th and 19th centuries.
A 170 percent increase in acidity is equivalent to cutting the Ph level of the ocean, a scale of acidity and alkalinity, to 7.9 from 8.2 on a logarithmic scale. Battery acid rates about 1 and soap, an alkaline, is about 10.
CORALS, CRABS
The pace of acidification was the fastest in at least 55 million years, the scientists said. Acidification undermines the ability of everything from corals to crabs to build protective shells and has knock-on effects on the food web.
"Marine ecosystems and biodiversity are likely to change as a result of ocean acidification, with far-reaching consequences for society," according to the summary led by the International Geosphere-Biosphere Programme.
"Economic losses from declines in shellfish aquaculture and the degradation of tropical coral reefs may be substantial owing to the sensitivity of molluscs and corals to ocean acidification," it said.
And some studies have found that young clown fish, made famous by the movie "Finding Nemo", behaved as if drunk in more acidic waters, their brains apparently disoriented.
Another study found that rockfish can become more anxious.
"A normal fish will swim equally in light and dark areas in a tank ... an anxious one on high carbon dioxide spends more time in the darker side, the more protected side," said Lauren Linsmayer of the University of California, San Diego.
"If society continues on the current high emissions trajectory, cold water coral reefs, located in the deep sea, may be unsustainable and tropical coral reef erosion is likely to outpace reef building this century," the report said.
Deep cuts in emissions of greenhouse gases, from power plants, factories and cars, would limit acidification.
The Warsaw talks are working on plans for a global deal, due to be agreed in 2015, to limit climate change
http://news.yahoo.com/oceans-suffer-silent-st...
You gotta love those government funded studies so government can trick people into giving them control… Your looking like a tool.

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Nov 16, 2013
 
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I’m very comfortable with that.
Not at all… You believe the Bible, every world, sentence, phase and story is ambiguous, or is lacking in meaning for many who read it.
You have a very close friend of 53 years and no one else understands each other the way to two of you understand each other. Apparently you reached a limit long ago and still have misunderstandings of one another. I am unsure if the is a limit of understanding or a limit of ambiguity, but I have a feeling it may be both.
You again state your belief again, stating that the meaning of the world change with translation to different languages, and you are very surprised that anyone agrees on anything in the Bible at all.
Lastly you state your belief that people are naïve and self-absorbed if they believe they know the “ONE TRUE MEANING” of the Bible, and you equate know God to one thinking they are God. Then you state knowing something is to be on the same level as that something you know.
YET:
Billions of people around the world agree with what the Bible says, and although there are many different denominations, traditions, ceremonies, ALL agree on the as God word and truth. All believe Jesus, the Son of God came, taught, loved and died for the sins of humanity.
John 3:16
New International Version (NIV)
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Translated from GREEK (wish is still spoken today) into every language in the world holds the SAME MEANING.
You act as though the Bible is written in some language that no one person can understand… That’s not the truth.
People who read the Bible extensively truly get to know God. Just like you and your friend invested in time getting to know one another, right? It took time and intentionally asking questions to get to know your friend as well as you do… For the Billions of Christians who do this they all get to know who God is, and they are not crazy because of this.
Harry potter is written in many different languages as well… Do you believe that anyone walks away from reading those books with the impression they are NON-FICTION about the way magic people live in the world… NOT LIKELY.
As for knowing things… You are a smart man, and you know that atoms make mass… but are you on the same level as the atom? Do you know all there is to know about the atom? Are you the same as the Atom?
This was a little hard to understand. Perhaps you wrote it in a hurry? I'm not complaining it's just a little hard to know what you are saying. Add that to the level of ambiguity that exists in ALL written things and I got very little out of what I think was a lot of thought. Were you emotional about what you were saying? Or about what I said?
You said that BILLIONS of people get the same meaning out of the bible, did I understand that right? If so then I have to disagree with you. In fact I believe that you can NOT get two people to show me who both are completely in agreement with is said in the bible. BILLIONS? Please find two, 2, people in full agreement about the bible and I will concede my ignorance.
You also state that all of these people KNOW God. Did I understand this correctly? If so then again, I beg to differ. God is OMNIPOTANT, is this correct? You and I are time limited, miniscule cells in an everlasting all encompassing entity. I don't KNOW the cell right next to me fully yet all these people KNOW God? As I said before, anyone who thinks that they can KNOW or understand an omnipotent being is at least egotistical and at the most completely MAD!!!
At the end you talk about an atom. Then you ask me some questions about what I think my relation is to an atom. Do I have this correct? If so then I would say I am most likely very much like an atom in that I am a single tiny part of a vast complex system. As such I find it impossible to KNOW the entire system I am a part of. I can not even KNOW another 1

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Nov 16, 2013
 
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I’m very comfortable with that.
Not at all… You believe the Bible, every world, sentence, phase and story is ambiguous, or is lacking in meaning for many who read it.
You have a very close friend of 53 years and no one else understands each other the way to two of you understand each other. Apparently you reached a limit long ago and still have misunderstandings of one another. I am unsure if the is a limit of understanding or a limit of ambiguity, but I have a feeling it may be both.
You again state your belief again, stating that the meaning of the world change with translation to different languages, and you are very surprised that anyone agrees on anything in the Bible at all.
Lastly you state your belief that people are naïve and self-absorbed if they believe they know the “ONE TRUE MEANING” of the Bible, and you equate know God to one thinking they are God. Then you state knowing something is to be on the same level as that something you know.
YET:
Billions of people around the world agree with what the Bible says, and although there are many different denominations, traditions, ceremonies, ALL agree on the as God word and truth. All believe Jesus, the Son of God came, taught, loved and died for the sins of humanity.
John 3:16
New International Version (NIV)
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Translated from GREEK (wish is still spoken today) into every language in the world holds the SAME MEANING.
You act as though the Bible is written in some language that no one person can understand… That’s not the truth.
People who read the Bible extensively truly get to know God. Just like you and your friend invested in time getting to know one another, right? It took time and intentionally asking questions to get to know your friend as well as you do… For the Billions of Christians who do this they all get to know who God is, and they are not crazy because of this.
Harry potter is written in many different languages as well… Do you believe that anyone walks away from reading those books with the impression they are NON-FICTION about the way magic people live in the world… NOT LIKELY.
As for knowing things… You are a smart man, and you know that atoms make mass… but are you on the same level as the atom? Do you know all there is to know about the atom? Are you the same as the Atom?
I just wrote you a very good, well thought out answer to this post. Then I attempted to copy it in case it does not post like happens so many times.

I could NOT copy it

And the F*$% thing did not post!!!

I can't do it again as good as I did and I am to piss&* to try!!!

Maybe I will try later.

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Nov 16, 2013
 
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This was a little hard to understand. Perhaps you wrote it in a hurry? I'm not complaining it's just a little hard to know what you are saying. Add that to the level of ambiguity that exists in ALL written things and I got very little out of what I think was a lot of thought. Were you emotional about what you were saying? Or about what I said?
You said that BILLIONS of people get the same meaning out of the bible, did I understand that right? If so then I have to disagree with you. In fact I believe that you can NOT get two people to show me who both are completely in agreement with is said in the bible. BILLIONS? Please find two, 2, people in full agreement about the bible and I will concede my ignorance.
You also state that all of these people KNOW God. Did I understand this correctly? If so then again, I beg to differ. God is OMNIPOTANT, is this correct? You and I are time limited, miniscule cells in an everlasting all encompassing entity. I don't KNOW the cell right next to me fully yet all these people KNOW God? As I said before, anyone who thinks that they can KNOW or understand an omnipotent being is at least egotistical and at the most completely MAD!!!
At the end you talk about an atom. Then you ask me some questions about what I think my relation is to an atom. Do I have this correct? If so then I would say I am most likely very much like an atom in that I am a single tiny part of a vast complex system. As such I find it impossible to KNOW the entire system I am a part of. I can not even KNOW another 1
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I NEVER STATED THAT THE BIBLE LACS MEANING TO SOME PEOPLE WHO READ IT!!!

Ambiguous I did say but that part I did NOT. Thus you make my case for me. You understood some part of what I wrote to mean that some people get NO meaning from the bible because of AMBIGUATY! I don't think you would lie or try to put words in my mouth therefore the only way for you to get that understanding is because you actually understood something I said to mean that. That is the very definition of AMBIGUOUS when it pertains to talking or writing!!!

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Nov 18, 2013
 
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This was a little hard to understand. Perhaps you wrote it in a hurry? I'm not complaining it's just a little hard to know what you are saying. Add that to the level of ambiguity that exists in ALL written things and I got very bible and I will concede my ignorance.
You also state that all of these people KNOW God. Did I understand this correctly? If so then again, I beg to differ. God is OMNIPOTANT, is this correct? You and I are time limited, miniscule cells in an everlasting all encompassing entity. I don't KNOW the cell right next to me fully yet all these people KNOW God? As I said before, anyone who thinks that they can KNOW or understand an omnipotent being is at least egotistical and at the most completely MAD!!!
At the end you talk about an atom. Then you ask me some questions about what I think my relation is to an atom. Do I have this correct? If so then I would say I am most likely very much like an atom in that I am a single tiny part of a vast complex system. As such I find it impossible to KNOW the entire system I am a part of. I can not even KNOW another 1
“This was a little hard to understand. Perhaps you wrote it in a hurry?” I was…
“Were you emotional about what you were saying? Or about what I said?” I was answering to you from your post, I can’t say that I was feeling “emotional”.

“You said that BILLIONS of people get the same meaning out of the bible, did I understand that right?” Yes.
“If so then I have to disagree with you.” You can but because you disagree doesn’t change the billions of people who have faith in the God of the Bible.
“In fact I believe that you can NOT get two people to show me who both are completely in agreement with is said in the bible.” You belief is founded on what basis?
“BILLIONS?” Yes.
“Please find two, 2, people in full agreement about the bible and I will concede my ignorance.” You are playing word games… by stating “full agreement” However, myself and my best friend agree on the Bible, and I agree with my Pastors on what the Bibles says. I would challenge you to find Christians that don’t agree that God sent His only Son so that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life.

“You also state that all of these people KNOW God. Did I understand this correctly?”
“If so then again, I beg to differ.” You can but then I would ask you on what basis.
“God is OMNIPOTANT, is this correct?” Yes.
“You and I are time limited, miniscule cells in an everlasting all encompassing entity.” This is based on what?
“I don't KNOW the cell right next to me fully yet all these people KNOW God?” What are you trying to ask me here?
“As I said before, anyone who thinks that they can KNOW or understand an omnipotent being is at least egotistical and at the most completely MAD!!!” Knowing God doesn’t mean one can “understand an omnipotent being”. Do you know every little last bit of your friend of 53 years? Do you know absolutely ALL of his/her emotions and reactions to ALL situations? If you answer yes, then I would believe you to be “egotistical and at the most completely MAD!!” But I believe that you know him/her quite better than many others who know him/ her… Would that be a fair statement? Do you understand my point? You and I will NEVER know ALL about the Creator of the universe but the Bible provides a very good look at who God is, His character, and the reasons for our being.

“At the end you talk about an atom. Then you ask me some questions about what I think my relation is to an atom. Do I have this correct?” Yes.
“If so then I would say I am most likely very much like an atom in that I am a single tiny part of a vast complex system. As such I find it impossible to KNOW the entire system I am a part of. I can not even KNOW another 1” So, you concede to knowing an Atom doesn’t mean you are one… thus, knowing God doesn’t mean you’re God.

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I NEVER STATED THAT THE BIBLE LACS MEANING TO SOME PEOPLE WHO READ IT!!!
Ambiguous I did say but that part I did NOT. Thus you make my case for me. You understood some part of what I wrote to mean that some people get NO meaning from the bible because of AMBIGUATY! I don't think you would lie or try to put words in my mouth therefore the only way for you to get that understanding is because you actually understood something I said to mean that. That is the very definition of AMBIGUOUS when it pertains to talking or writing!!!
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“Please note:

I NEVER STATED THAT THE BIBLE LACS MEANING TO SOME PEOPLE WHO READ IT!!!

Ambiguous I did say but that part I did NOT.” Okay… If “Ambiguous” means there are multiple interpretations then how does one extract a meaning? Let’s keep this simple… For some reason you believe the Bible says different things based on language, translation, and somehow people walk away with different interpretations. Correct?
I am telling you that is not true. The Bible is very specific in what God says and there are over 2 Billion people in the world who believe the same because of that.

“Thus you make my case for me. You understood some part of what I wrote to mean that some people get NO meaning from the bible because of AMBIGUATY! I don't think you would lie or try to put words in my mouth therefore the only way for you to get that understanding is because you actually understood something I said to mean that. That is the very definition of AMBIGUOUS when it pertains to talking or writing!!!” Okay.

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I NEVER STATED THAT THE BIBLE LACS MEANING TO SOME PEOPLE WHO READ IT!!!
Ambiguous I did say but that part I did NOT.” Okay… If “Ambiguous” means there are multiple interpretations then how does one extract a meaning? Let’s keep this simple… For some reason you believe the Bible says different things based on language, translation, and somehow people walk away with different interpretations. Correct?
I am telling you that is not true. The Bible is very specific in what God says and there are over 2 Billion people in the world who believe the same because of that.
“Thus you make my case for me. You understood some part of what I wrote to mean that some people get NO meaning from the bible because of AMBIGUATY! I don't think you would lie or try to put words in my mouth therefore the only way for you to get that understanding is because you actually understood something I said to mean that. That is the very definition of AMBIGUOUS when it pertains to talking or writing!!!” Okay.
Does your "okay" mean that you saw the misinterpretation? If so I applaud your ability to concede the obvious. Simple truth will move a disagreement in a positive direction faster than the words themselves. What you did there was such a simple thing. You saw that I didn't say whatever it was I stated that I didn't say. WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR PEOPLE TO AGREE WITH THE OBVIOUS??? That will help this conversation in more ways than we will ever know. Well done:):)(I think the answer to my question is EGO!!!)

You say:
Okay… If “Ambiguous” means there are multiple interpretations then how does one extract a meaning? Let’s keep this simple… For some reason you believe the Bible says different things based on language, translation, and somehow people walk away with different interpretations. Correct?

My reply:
Yes, with a clarification. I am NOT saying that the bible says different things, I'm saying that PEOPLE get different understandings from what they read.
This is important because it pertains to all communication between humans. Each person's perception of a statement is bent around their exogenous environmental experiences. Example: A Muslim born and raised in a desert area by extremely fanatical parents will most likely see life quite different than you or I. Now switch places with that person at birth and do you think you would still be Christian? That is a silly question, I will do that better; Do you think that if both of you were going to the same college in the USA and were asked a question by your professor in a class dealing with religion that both of you would HEAR THE SAME QUESTION?? I believe NOT!

This is what I mean about the ambiguity of the bible. NOT the writing but the PERSEPTION is ambiguous.

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Jammercolo wrote:
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The people of Netherlands have more personal freedom than Americans do.
Prison Population Rates per 100,000 of the national population. USA first place with 716. Netherlands rate is 92.
take you pick
https://www.google.com/#q=netherlands+closing...
WHERE DID YOU GO???

I have not read all of the conversation between you and RESPECT (every time I write that word I think of Aretha Franklin:):)) R E S P E C T that is what... Loll

Anyway, I'll speak to this particular post.

I do not Feel that America is remotely free any more! It is a police state! The first really big move in my lifetime was the "No knock law" imposed by Reagan I think. ALL was lost with Bush's "Patriot act" which takes way all the things that we used to hear we would loose if we lost the war in Viet Nam. When people can be detained without reason, time limits, or notification of relatives then all is lost! I don't mean people, I mean American citizens.
My son in law just built a fence around his house. He has been fined and must take it down and rebuild it with the vertical slats wider apart so that police are able to see through for their safety. The whole reason for building the fence was so no one can see in. Privacy! How about the number of camera's posted in big cities by the NSA? SPYING ON AMERICA'S OWN CITIZENS IS ILLEAGLE!!! UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!! AND F*%NG RUDE!!!

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Does your "okay" mean that you saw the misinterpretation? If so I applaud your ability to concede the obvious. Simple truth will move a disagreement in a positive direcifferent things based on language, translation, and somehow people walk away with different interpretations. Correct?
My reply:
Yes, with a clarification. I am NOT saying that the bible says different things, I'm saying that PEOPLE get different understandings from what they read.
This is important because it pertains to all communication between humans. Each person's perception of a statement is bent around their exogenous environmental experiences. Example: A Muslim born and raised in a desert area by extremely fanatical parents will most likely see life quite different than you or I. Now switch places with that person at birth and do you think you would still be Christian? That is a silly question, I will do that better; Do you think that if both of you were going to the same college in the USA and were asked a question by your professor in a class dealing with religion that both of you would HEAR THE SAME QUESTION?? I believe NOT!
This is what I mean about the ambiguity of the bible. NOT the writing but the PERSEPTION is ambiguous.
“Does your "okay" mean that you saw the misinterpretation?” No. The “okay” was to allow your words to rest as they were.

“If so I applaud your ability to concede the obvious. Simple truth will move a disagreement in a positive direction faster than the words themselves.” The Bible is Truth cover to cover

What you did there was such a simple thing. You saw that I didn't say whatever it was I stated that I didn't say. WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR PEOPLE TO AGREE WITH THE OBVIOUS???” You are very confused on what I “saw”. Will it do any good to clarify?

“That will help this conversation in more ways than we will ever know. Well done:):)(I think the answer to my question is EGO!!!)” Which question was that?

“You say:
Okay… If “Ambiguous” means there are multiple interpretations then how does one extract a meaning? Let’s keep this simple… For some reason you believe the Bible says different things based on language, translation, and somehow people walk away with different interpretations. Correct?

My reply:
Yes, with a clarification. I am NOT saying that the bible says different things, I'm saying that PEOPLE get different understandings from what they read.” Based on what?

“This is important because it pertains to all communication between humans. Each person's perception of a statement is bent around their exogenous environmental experiences. Example: A Muslim born and raised in a desert area by extremely fanatical parents will most likely see life quite different than you or I. Now switch places with that person at birth and do you think you would still be Christian?” Sure... Why not? My Parents are radical left wing American communist, who (like “J”) hates Christians and daily wishes they would all leave the Country, and I am a Christian.

“That is a silly question,” Why?

“I will do that better; Do you think that if both of you were going to the same college in the USA and were asked a question by your professor in a class dealing with religion that both of you would HEAR THE SAME QUESTION?? I believe NOT!” How so?

“This is what I mean about the ambiguity of the bible.” You seem to be speaking of peoples ignorance and lack of understanding vs “ambiguity of the bible.”

“NOT the writing but the PERSEPTION is ambiguous.” Based on what?

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WHERE DID YOU GO???
I have not read all of the conversation between you and RESPECT (every time I write that word I think of Aretha Franklin:):)) R E S P E C T that is what... Loll
Anyway, I'll speak to this particular post.
I do not Feel that America is remotely free any more! It is a police state! The first really big move in my lifetime was the "No knock law" imposed by Reagan I think. ALL was lost with Bush's "Patriot act" which takes way all the things that we used to hear we would loose if we lost the war in Viet Nam. When people can be detained without reason, time limits, or notification of relatives then all is lost! I don't mean people, I mean American citizens.
My son in law just built a fence around his house. He has been fined and must take it down and rebuild it with the vertical slats wider apart so that police are able to see through for their safety. The whole reason for building the fence was so no one can see in. Privacy! How about the number of camera's posted in big cities by the NSA? SPYING ON AMERICA'S OWN CITIZENS IS ILLEAGLE!!! UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!! AND F*%NG RUDE!!!
I whole heartedly agree with you... And now you are mandated by the federal government to purchase health insurance. And the IRS (the same IRS that targeted tea party and conservative groups) will make sure you buy it or else!

All the lies will come out for 2014... Democrats are petrified.

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You believe is it fair for almost half of Americans to NOT pay any Federal income tax?
Not really, but Back in the good old days Union workers were a far greater share of our work force.In your race to drive avg.American families to live like poor Chinese in mud huts wages have been cut while the rich roll in the dough.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/06/s...

Then again I don't believe minimum wage was ever meant to support a family. It was for kids living at home to gain some worker experience and spending money not to support a family on.
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Wow you trolls really should just get a room down at the bugs bunny or something, Save the rest of us your little internet courtship. It is obvious you want each others ass.

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Wow you trolls really should just get a room down at the bugs bunny or something, Save the rest of us your little internet courtship. It is obvious you want each others ass.
Says the homophobic little gray box.

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Not really, but Back in the good old days Union workers were a far greater share of our work force.In your race to drive avg.American families to live like poor Chinese in mud huts wages have been cut while the rich roll in the dough.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/06/s...
Then again I don't believe minimum wage was ever meant to support a family. It was for kids living at home to gain some worker experience and spending money not to support a family on.
“Not really, but Back in the good old days Union workers were a far greater share of our work force.” So what?
“In your race to drive avg.American families to live like poor Chinese in mud huts wages have been cut while the rich roll in the dough.” In my race? You need to be more specific… You’re not being clear.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/06/s ...

“Then again I don't believe minimum wage was ever meant to support a family. It was for kids living at home to gain some worker experience and spending money not to support a family on.” Agreed.

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I whole heartedly agree with you... And now you are mandated by the federal government to purchase health insurance. And the IRS (the same IRS that targeted tea party and conservative groups) will make sure you buy it or else!
All the lies will come out for 2014... Democrats are petrified.
We have come to a point where I can state what I believe:

Democracy is dead in America! Why? Because Democracy as wonderful as it is has an obvious flaw. It can not work when the number of people in the system exceeds a certain amount. That amount is relative to many things so to make it easy I'll just say that the USA has exceeded the limitations.
Therefore I feel we should be honest to ourselves and realize we have become socialistic due to a natural course of events and embrace that socialism.
Once we get back in line with reality and truth then we will have the ability to make changes. As long as we are living the lies that the powers who run this country feed us we continue on a downward spiral. That is only natural.
The USSR already came to this conclusion with their system. Unfortunately they chose another existing system to change to when the only answer is something completely new that is devised to work for todays unique qualities.
There is a second answer which is to bring the population back down to the levels where Democracy can work. I personally do not consider this a solution.

Thus is another reason for this post!!! I ABSOLUTLY believe that we can and MUST venture out as Columbus did to find the "space" necessary for the future of our species and maybe many of the other species that live on this planet.

COME ON NOW!!! The very fact that we have discovered that other planets exist means that what I am promoting is possible.

When a tree falls in the forest and no spiritual being is witness THERE IS NO SOUND!!!

We are spiritual beings and have already witnessed space and celestial bodies. Stop placing our energy in destruction and we WILL witness viable places to grow and prosper!!!

Tell me I am wrong, and I will show you what is holding us back.

“I think therefore I...forgot!!”

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Jammercolo wrote:
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Says the homophobic little gray box.
LOLLLLLL

WOW!!! You did that well!!!

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Lispy Sister wrote:
Wow you trolls really should just get a room down at the bugs bunny or something, Save the rest of us your little internet courtship. It is obvious you want each others ass.
All you have to do is include your nice little ass in the conversation and we will embrace it:):)

That is ambiguous and I am dying to hear what your reply is:):)

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“Not really, but Back in the good old days Union workers were a far greater share of our work force.” So what?
“In your race to drive avg.American families to live like poor Chinese in mud huts wages have been cut while the rich roll in the dough.” In my race? You need to be more specific… You’re not being clear.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/06/s ...
“Then again I don't believe minimum wage was ever meant to support a family. It was for kids living at home to gain some worker experience and spending money not to support a family on.” Agreed.
Couple more generations America will be a country of peasants ruled over by a small elite group of super wealthy.
http://liberalconspiracy.org/2011/11/16/how-t...

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We have come to a point where I can state what I believe:
Democracy is dead in America! Why? Because Democracy as wonderful as it is has an obvious flaw. It can not work when the number of people in the system exceeds a certain amount. That amount is relative to many things so to make it easy I'll just say that the USA has exceeded the limitations.
Therefore I feel we should be honest to ourselves and realize we have become socialistic due to a natural course of events and embrace that socialism.
Once we get back in line with reality and truth then we will have the ability to make changes. As long as we are living the lies that the powers who run this country feed us we continue on a downward spiral. That is only natural.
The USSR already came to this conclusion with their system. Unfortunately they chose another existing system to change to when the only answer is something completely new that is devised to work for todays unique qualities.
There is a second answer which is to bring the population back down to the levels where Democracy can work. I personally do not consider this a solution.
Thus is another reason for this post!!! I ABSOLUTLY believe that we can and MUST venture out as Columbus did to find the "space" necessary for the future of our species and maybe many of the other species that live on this planet.
COME ON NOW!!! The very fact that we have discovered that other planets exist means that what I am promoting is possible.
When a tree falls in the forest and no spiritual being is witness THERE IS NO SOUND!!!
We are spiritual beings and have already witnessed space and celestial bodies. Stop placing our energy in destruction and we WILL witness viable places to grow and prosper!!!
Tell me I am wrong, and I will show you what is holding us back.
“Democracy is dead in America! Why? Because Democracy as wonderful as it is has an obvious flaw. It can not work when the number of people in the system exceeds a certain amount. That amount is relative to many things so to make it easy I'll just say that the USA has exceeded the limitations.” The problem is we are not a “Democracy”, we are a Constitutional republic with democratic processes... Democracy was never alive in the US. Majority doesn’t RULE.

“Therefore I feel we should be honest to ourselves and realize we have become socialistic due to a natural course of events and embrace that socialism.” Unfortunately that goes against our Constitution and Americans are beginning to realize this especially with all the Obamacare problems.

“Once we get back in line with reality and truth then we will have the ability to make changes. As long as we are living the lies that the powers who run this country feed us we continue on a downward spiral. That is only natural.” I would tent to agree with you here, which is why the recalls in colorado, and conservative wins of school boards are happening. Americans arn’t willing to lay down to the socialist whims of the left.

“Thus is another reason for this post!!! I ABSOLUTLY believe that we can and MUST venture out as Columbus did to find the "space" necessary for the future of our species and maybe many of the other species that live on this planet.” This won’t happen as long as socialism exists.

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Jammercolo wrote:
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Couple more generations America will be a country of peasants ruled over by a small elite group of super wealthy.
http://liberalconspiracy.org/2011/11/16/how-t...
“Couple more generations America will be a country of peasants ruled over by a small elite group of super wealthy.” They already are... It’s called the Federal Government, and that fact that you support that shows your character.

Americans are on to you and our government.

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