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#713 Jul 24, 2013
There are two things in the world today that will destroy any civilizations as we know them.
Fear and Greed.
Fear that there is not enough of everything to sustain all the lives on the planet.
Greed for more than one needs to sustain their life on this planet.
If we could somehow lose our Fear and Greed then humanity would not become extinct.

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#714 Jul 24, 2013
Melody_E wrote:
There are two things in the world today that will destroy any civilizations as we know them.
Fear and Greed.
Fear that there is not enough of everything to sustain all the lives on the planet.
Greed for more than one needs to sustain their life on this planet.
If we could somehow lose our Fear and Greed then humanity would not become extinct.
Interesting.

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#715 Jul 24, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
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“oppressed society under the cultural (or political) tyranny of the elite few.”
LOL it’s funny you mention “tyranny”. Do you understand the meaning of the word?
Our founding fathers understood the meaning a great deal, which is why we have our Constitution and why government shouldn’t be allowed to be as big as it is.
Americans need to wise up and understand that’s your bent, as well as our president’s and they need to take their responsibility seriously.
Why are the top ten freest countries all Socialist?

Pope blames tyranny of capitalism for making people miserable

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/world/pope-blames-ty...

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#717 Jul 24, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
Tyranny comes from a HUGE government. A government, The spends a TRILLION dollars on “shovel ready” jobs that didn’t exists as fat cat politicians lined their pockets, that BUYS an automotive company, sells some overseas, and dissolves others while taxpayers loose BILLIONS of dollars in the deals, that imposes a 2500 page healthcare (FORCED through with little representation) law with upwards of 30 thousand pages of regulations associated with that law, that spends taxpayer dollars on abortions, that kills the keystone pipeline that was a HUGE jobs creating project and would help lower FUEL COST to US consumers, that lies about raising taxes on the middle-class, that lies about world events in order to look good for elections (They lied about Benghazi how do we know, for sure, that Bin Laden is dead?), that uses the IRS to hinder opposing political groups to win elections, records private phone records of it’s citizens, that claims racial hatred in a simple self defense case, and then makes speeches about how GREAT the economy is as MILLIONS of Americans still suffer from their piss poor economic policies and while huge industrial cities file for bankruptcy.
Tyranny.
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#718 Jul 24, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
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First, this is America, founded on the principle that citizens have God given, unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Second, Capitalism is based on rewards for hard work and dedication and allows prosperity.
Socialism, consolidates power to government, trusts that government know what’s best, removes choice from its people, attempts to redistribute wealth while allowing government officials to reap the spoils of its people, causes wasteful use of resources until a collapse takes its toll and ruins the country. Ussr, Greece, and Spain are examples of this.
So not only is socialism a BAD idea, but I believe the more prudent question is can socialism work within the framework of America’s founding?
The answer is NO, because socialism removes the freedoms and responsibilities of individual citizens and offers it to government.
We are tenth because there are FAR TOO MANY socialist mechanisms in place that HINDER American’s and cause complacent sections that perform for bellow their real abilities.
Socialism doesn’t work and shouldn’t exist in America… You should consider one of the top 9 countries for residence, for the reason that you hate liberty for all, and not to mention your distain for the Judeo-Christian values the established the United States. This isn’t the Country for you.
t may be the wealthiest country in the world but as documentary maker Philippe Levasseur shows in America's Broken Dreams, when you lose your job in the US there is very little to protect you. In 2008 the global financial crisis hit the poor first, but now America's middle class is being devastated.

Larry, 52, used to manage a large customer service department. But two years ago he lost his job and house. Today he lives in a motel room with his wife and two children and scrapes by on $820 dollars a month, welcoming tourists to Disney World. After he has paid the motel fees, he's left with just $70 a week for food and other necessities.

If their is a god it will be your turn to live this way soon.

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#719 Jul 25, 2013
Jammercolo wrote:
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Why are the top ten freest countries all Socialist?
Pope blames tyranny of capitalism for making people miserable
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/world/pope-blames-ty...
That’s when you need to DEFINE the word “FREEST”, now don’t you? Do all those countries recognize that IDIVIDUALS as having God given unalienable rights?
Really? So you, a man who holds pure distain for those who believe in Jesus, claiming they are uneducated and small minded, stating they live in a bubble, YOU are going to listen to the Pope?
Hysterical.

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#720 Jul 25, 2013
Jammercolo wrote:
Replace the GOP elephant with the 2500page law and the thousands of pages of regulation associated with it, AND THEN it would be more accurate and far less funny.

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#721 Jul 25, 2013
Jammercolo wrote:
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t may be the wealthiest country in the world but as documentary maker Philippe Levasseur shows in America's Broken Dreams, when you lose your job in the US there is very little to protect you. In 2008 the global financial crisis hit the poor first, but now America's middle class is being devastated.
Larry, 52, used to manage a large customer service department. But two years ago he lost his job and house. Today he lives in a motel room with his wife and two children and scrapes by on $820 dollars a month, welcoming tourists to Disney World. After he has paid the motel fees, he's left with just $70 a week for food and other necessities.
If their is a god it will be your turn to live this way soon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =kV4grZ_Lw5sXX
How do you know I don’t live that way?
Why do you continue to distract from topic to topic? Explain how socialism will work without removing unalienable rights. You can’t because it is impossible.

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#722 Jul 25, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
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That’s when you need to DEFINE the word “FREEST”, now don’t you? Do all those countries recognize that IDIVIDUALS as having God given unalienable rights?
What God given unalienable rights?

All of them have freedom of religion if that is what you mean.
Respect71 wrote:
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Really? So you, a man who holds pure distain for those who believe in Jesus, claiming they are uneducated and small minded, stating they live in a bubble, YOU are going to listen to the Pope?
Hysterical.
O yes I may fall in love with this new pope.Pope Francis cleans house at the Vatican Bank fired the top two for money laundering Italian mafia money.

Pope France declared war on the Vatican's luxury cars.Saying,"it bothers me when I see a priest or a sister with a brand new car”.

You really need to read more news sources.

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#723 Jul 25, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
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How do you know I don’t live that way?
Simple you vote republican.LOL
Respect71 wrote:
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Why do you continue to distract from topic to topic? Explain how socialism will work without removing unalienable rights. You can’t because it is impossible.
What unalienable rights? They have MORE FREEDOM

The United States has become a police state with more people locked up then any country in the world.

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#724 Jul 25, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
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Replace the GOP elephant with the 2500page law and the thousands of pages of regulation associated with it, AND THEN it would be more accurate and far less funny.
ROFLMAO, Even before obamacare the United States spent more than 2.5 times more on healthcare then other developed nations in the world and still we die younger.

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#725 Jul 25, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
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That’s when you need to DEFINE the word “FREEST”, now don’t you? Do all those countries recognize that IDIVIDUALS as having God given unalienable rights?
Really? So you, a man who holds pure distain for those who believe in Jesus, claiming they are uneducated and small minded, stating they live in a bubble, YOU are going to listen to the Pope?
Hysterical.
I don't hold a persons belief of god in distain. In fact I will fight for religious rights more than you will. I believe in the rights to pray to what ever god you want how ever you want so long as you don't force others to live by your gods rules.

Muslims want to build a "mosque" in downtown New York I am fine with that.Are you?

You want to teach your kids that Jesus rode a dinosaur I cool with that.Just don't spent public tax money on it.

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#726 Jul 26, 2013
Jammercolo wrote:
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What God given unalienable rights?
All of them have freedom of religion if that is what you mean.
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O yes I may fall in love with this new pope.Pope Francis cleans house at the Vatican Bank fired the top two for money laundering Italian mafia money.
Pope France declared war on the Vatican's luxury cars.Saying,"it bothers me when I see a priest or a sister with a brand new car”.
You really need to read more news sources.
The fact that you ask that question shows your lack of American values.
Define “freest” then define what it means to be free as an American…
THEN Explain how socialism will work without removing unalienable rights.
You won’t, but you should try.

Loving those you hate is a step closer to believing in Jesus.
I read more than you know…

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#727 Jul 27, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
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The fact that you ask that question shows your lack of American values.
I really want to see what you think god giving rights are.
Respect71 wrote:
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Define “freest” then define what it means to be free as an American…
Business freedom,trade freedom,fiscal freedom,monetary freedom,investment freedom,financial freedom,personal freedom and property rights. That's what the countries were rated on and the United States comes in 10th.
http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking
Respect71 wrote:
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THEN Explain how socialism will work without removing unalienable rights.
You won’t, but you should try.
I will when you tell me what you believe these unalienable rights are.
Respect71 wrote:
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Loving those you hate is a step closer to believing in Jesus.
I read more than you know…
I thought it was outlaw every thing that don't fit with Christians cherry picked bible passages. Outlaw gay marriages good.Outlaw super sized fries evil. Gluttony rules this Country Christians values.

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#728 Jul 28, 2013
Jammercolo wrote:
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I really want to see what you think god giving rights are.
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Business freedom,trade freedom,fiscal freedom,monetary freedom,investment freedom,financial freedom,personal freedom and property rights. That's what the countries were rated on and the United States comes in 10th.
http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking
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I will when you tell me what you believe these unalienable rights are.
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I thought it was outlaw every thing that don't fit with Christians cherry picked bible passages. Outlaw gay marriages good.Outlaw super sized fries evil. Gluttony rules this Country Christians values.
“I really want to see what you think god giving rights are.” The fact that you don’t know what these rights are is appalling.“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” God given rights... NOT from government.

“Business freedom,trade freedom,fiscal freedom,monetary freedom,investment freedom,financial freedom,personal freedom and property rights. That's what the countries were rated on and the United States comes in 10th.” AGAIN you have to define “freedom”. If freedom is defined as granted from government, then there a very good reason why America is 10th.

“I will when you tell me what you believe these unalienable rights are.” You can’t because you don’t believe in these rights.

“I thought it was outlaw every thing that don't fit with Christians cherry picked bible passages. Outlaw gay marriages good.Outlaw super sized fries evil. Gluttony rules this Country Christians values.” Shows more of your utter and blatant lack of understanding of Christians or even God for that matter. Your choice.
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#729 Jul 28, 2013
You don't.

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#730 Jul 29, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
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“I really want to see what you think god giving rights are.” The fact that you don’t know what these rights are is appalling.“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” God given rights... NOT from government.
So please tell how a mommy and daddy can pursue a life of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness while their baby girl with down syndrome was denied health care driving the whole family to losing their home,life savings and the collage fund for the other kids a god given right?
Beside The Supreme Court has generally held that the Declaration does not have the force of law, and no words in the Declaration can give rise to legal rights independently. One major justification for this view is that the Declaration’s purpose was to separate the United States from Britain, not to prescribe legal rights for the people living in the colonies.

It's the United States Constitution that gives us personal rights.The only place one can find Jesus,God or Lord in the United States Constitution in on the line with the date.

Okay god given right from bible.
Men have the right to knock up the maid (Genesis 16:1-4, 16:2, 30:1-4), have mistresses (Exodus 25:6) and he can even sell his daughter (Exodus 21:7-8). That's family values!

The right to kill witches Exodus 22:18; Leviticus 20:27.The right to to rape any women he captures in war (Deuteronomy 21:11-14).
The right to stone to death rebellious children Deuteronomy 21:18
Respect71 wrote:
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“Business freedom,trade freedom,fiscal freedom,monetary freedom,investment freedom,financial freedom,personal freedom and property rights. That's what the countries were rated on and the United States comes in 10th.” AGAIN you have to define “freedom”. If freedom is defined as granted from government, then there a very good reason why America is 10th.
“I will when you tell me what you believe these unalienable rights are.” You can’t because you don’t believe in these rights.
“I thought it was outlaw every thing that don't fit with Christians cherry picked bible passages. Outlaw gay marriages good.Outlaw super sized fries evil. Gluttony rules this Country Christians values.” Shows more of your utter and blatant lack of understanding of Christians or even God for that matter. Your choice.
I strongly believe in my rights as a United States citizen. Those rights come from the Constitution of the United States not the Declaration of Independence nor from any god/s.

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#731 Jul 29, 2013
Jammercolo wrote:
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So please tell how a mommy and daddy can pursue a life of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness while their baby girl with down syndrome was denied health care driving the whole family to losing their home,life savings and the collage fund for the other kids a god given right?
Beside The Supreme Court has generally held that the Declaration does not have the force of law, and no words in the Declaration can give rise to legal rights independently. One major justification for this view is that the Declaration’s purpose was to separate the United States from Britain, not to prescribe legal rights for the people living in the colonies.
It's the United States Constitution that gives us personal rights.The only place one can find Jesus,God or Lord in the United States Constitution in on the line with the date.
Okay god given right from bible.
Men have the right to knock up the maid (Genesis 16:1-4, 16:2, 30:1-4), have mistresses (Exodus 25:6) and he can even sell his daughter (Exodus 21:7-8). That's family values!
The right to kill witches Exodus 22:18; Leviticus 20:27.The right to to rape any women he captures in war (Deuteronomy 21:11-14).
The right to stone to death rebellious children Deuteronomy 21:18
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I strongly believe in my rights as a United States citizen. Those rights come from the Constitution of the United States not the Declaration of Independence nor from any god/s.
“So please tell how a mommy and daddy can pursue a life of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness while their baby girl with down syndrome was denied health care driving the whole family to losing their home,life savings and the collage fund for the other kids a god given right?” < What?!?!… What are you trying to ask or are you trying to make a statement?

“Beside The Supreme Court has generally held that the Declaration does not have the force of law, and no words in the Declaration can give rise to legal rights independently. One major justification for this view is that the Declaration’s purpose was to separate the United States from Britain, not to prescribe legal rights for the people living in the colonies.” You also believe the Supreme Court made CO2 a pollutant… There is a reason for the founding and the documents that lead to and are a part of the United States Constitution and if you’re unwilling to understand it for the sake of your ideology than you’re beyond help.

“It's the United States Constitution that gives us personal rights.The only place one can find Jesus,God or Lord in the United States Constitution in on the line with the date.” Whether you like it or not American rights are endowed by our God, as proclaimed in the decoration of independence, and the Constitution created to PROTECT those rights… Your Idea that rights come from the Constitution is false.

“Okay god given right from bible.
Men have the right to knock up the maid (Genesis 16:1-4, 16:2, 30:1-4), have mistresses (Exodus 25:6) and he can even sell his daughter (Exodus 21:7-8). That's family values!

The right to kill witches Exodus 22:18; Leviticus 20:27.The right to to rape any women he captures in war (Deuteronomy 21:11-14).
The right to stone to death rebellious children Deuteronomy 21:18”” LOL!!! What is the purpose of the Bible? What are the two GREATEST commandments? Care to take a stab again at God’s plan of salvation? Your ignorance is blatant and sad.

“I strongly believe in my rights as a United States citizen. Those rights come from the Constitution of the United States not the Declaration of Independence nor from any god/s.” Read above. Apparently, like the Bible, you choose ignorance about America’s founding…

BUT Anything to distract from answering direct questions like: Explain how socialism will work without removing unalienable rights. You’re only proving my point that you can’t.

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#732 Jul 29, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
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“So please tell how a mommy and daddy can pursue a life of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness while their baby girl with down syndrome was denied health care driving the whole family to losing their home,life savings and the collage fund for the other kids a god given right?” < What?!?!… What are you trying to ask or are you trying to make a statement?
“Beside The Supreme Court has generally held that the Declaration does not have the force of law, and no words in the Declaration can give rise to legal rights independently. One major justification for this view is that the Declaration’s purpose was to separate the United States from Britain, not to prescribe legal rights for the people living in the colonies.” You also believe the Supreme Court made CO2 a pollutant… There is a reason for the founding and the documents that lead to and are a part of the United States Constitution and if you’re unwilling to understand it for the sake of your ideology than you’re beyond help.
“It's the United States Constitution that gives us personal rights.The only place one can find Jesus,God or Lord in the United States Constitution in on the line with the date.” Whether you like it or not American rights are endowed by our God, as proclaimed in the decoration of independence, and the Constitution created to PROTECT those rights… Your Idea that rights come from the Constitution is false.
“Okay god given right from bible.
Men have the right to knock up the maid (Genesis 16:1-4, 16:2, 30:1-4), have mistresses (Exodus 25:6) and he can even sell his daughter (Exodus 21:7-8). That's family values!
The right to kill witches Exodus 22:18; Leviticus 20:27.The right to to rape any women he captures in war (Deuteronomy 21:11-14).
The right to stone to death rebellious children Deuteronomy 21:18”” LOL!!! What is the purpose of the Bible? What are the two GREATEST commandments? Care to take a stab again at God’s plan of salvation? Your ignorance is blatant and sad.
“I strongly believe in my rights as a United States citizen. Those rights come from the Constitution of the United States not the Declaration of Independence nor from any god/s.” Read above. Apparently, like the Bible, you choose ignorance about America’s founding…
BUT Anything to distract from answering direct questions like: Explain how socialism will work without removing unalienable rights. You’re only proving my point that you can’t.
Like it or not the Supreme Court DID rule CO2 a pollutant.
http://www.dieselnet.com/news/2007/04epa.php

The Declaration of Independence lists life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness as unalienable rights. The Constitution lists certain rights, but they aren't unalienable. For instance, the second amendment grants one the right to bear arms, but someone who is convicted of a violent felony or who is mentally unstable may be denied the right to purchase and possess guns.

Where are the unalienable rights in United States Constitution?

I've told you (more than once) what god's plan of salvation is.
It is easy, believe Jesus dies for our sins.Be born again.Get dunked under water baptism.

The two GREATEST commandments for Jesus anyway are #1 love god with all your heart.#2 is love your neighbor as yourself.

Jesus answered,“If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

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#733 Jul 29, 2013
Jammercolo wrote:
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Like it or not the Supreme Court DID rule CO2 a pollutant.
http://www.dieselnet.com/news/2007/04epa.php
The Declaration of Independence lists life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness as unalienable rights. The Constitution lists certain rights, but they aren't unalienable. For instance, the second amendment grants one the right to bear arms, but someone who is convicted of a violent felony or who is mentally unstable may be denied the right to purchase and possess guns.
Where are the unalienable rights in United States Constitution?
I've told you (more than once) what god's plan of salvation is.
It is easy, believe Jesus dies for our sins.Be born again.Get dunked under water baptism.
The two GREATEST commandments for Jesus anyway are #1 love god with all your heart.#2 is love your neighbor as yourself.
Jesus answered,“If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”
“Like it or not the Supreme Court DID rule CO2 a pollutant.” So what? The government can remove our rights to control our use of cheap and efficient fossil fuels the government can remove the right of companies to produce those resources the government will only allow you to blow on a fan to charge your cell phone? Which scientist claims CO2 is a pollutant? YOU are a government control freak otherwise your wouldn’t put the Supreme Court above science.

“The Declaration of Independence lists life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness as unalienable rights. The Constitution lists certain rights, but they aren't unalienable. For instance, the second amendment grants one the right to bear arms, but someone who is convicted of a violent felony or who is mentally unstable may be denied the right to purchase and possess guns.” So what?

“Where are the unalienable rights in United States Constitution?” The constitution is there to protect the unalienable rights, and the government’s bound to do so, which it has seriously dropped the ball.

“I've told you (more than once) what god's plan of salvation is.
It is easy, believe Jesus dies for our sins.Be born again.Get dunked under water baptism.” You’ve spewed ignorance, and Christian hate, but you can’t articulate it?

“The two GREATEST commandments for Jesus anyway are #1 love god with all your heart.#2 is love your neighbor as yourself.” Wow, look at you go… No what is the significance of that in relation to the verses you quoted in your prior post?

“Jesus answered,“If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”” Who was he speaking to and what caused Him to say it?

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Explain how socialism will work without removing unalienable rights. You’re only proving my point that you can’t.

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