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#361 Feb 27, 2013
I don`t believe in the tooth fairy either.

“I think therefore I...forgot!!”

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Since: Nov 12

Littleton, CO

#362 Feb 28, 2013
_Twisted Wicked_ wrote:
I don`t believe in the tooth fairy either.
Who asked you?

“I think therefore I...forgot!!”

Level 5

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Littleton, CO

#363 Feb 28, 2013
_Twisted Wicked_ wrote:
I don`t believe in the tooth fairy either.
Don't bother. i already know your reply.

“I think therefore I...forgot!!”

Level 5

Since: Nov 12

Littleton, CO

#364 Feb 28, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>
I wouldn’t ridicule you, and I do find it interesting that you have that line of thought.
Growing up a leftist liberal I wasn’t at all spiritual but believed there were aliens, ghosts, fairies, and gnomes… I kind of had the same idea that we are all one… I think it was my mother who impressed that upon me. However, when I became a Christian I realized that each person has been made individually and very special. So I would disagree with you on that aspect.
And that entire concept is something that did push me closer to Christianity. When I learned about the human caused horrors around the world why didn’t I feel the pain? If we are all one would I feel the mass genocides, the starvation, the illnesses, the tortures? I never did and don’t even to this day… So I don’t believe we are all one, BUT I do believe we were all created by the ONE and based on that the love, respect and sacrifice He gave to me as an individual, I would only honor and glorify Him by treating others with that same love, respect and sacrifice.
Please don’t take the disagreement as a ridicule, I am only sharing because it was a issue I had to deal with.
I didn't see any ridicule there. I was only giving you an idea.
I have belief's though. I believe that religion has and is doing much good. I believe that it is doing much more harm now and getting worse on a daily bases.

You refer to God as "He" or "God" and I want to know who that is? Not what God is or biblical quotes, I want to know what you see in your mind when you talk to God?

How do you know the your religion is the right one and all others are wrong?

Look at what this other nut wrote to me. This is because he thinks he is right and everyone else is wrong. Can you tell me why you are right and Buddha is wrong? Ali, Mohamed? Why is only Jesus to be followed?

How can Heaven be Heaven if someone you love is not there?

How can a man put two of every living creatures on a boat when every living reature is not nearly known? And don't tell me anything beyond what the majority believe which is that this littery happened. They are the religion.

How can God haven a son and his son NOT be a God? Man made that ultimate decision not Jesus.

How can we understand something that is omnipotant?

Why try to believe in a 2,000 year old book written by people, translated by people, and on and on?

My questions can go on forever. It is not the consept it is religion, organized and abused, that I have a problem with.

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#365 Feb 28, 2013
Kawalski wrote:
<quoted text>
“You refer to God as "He" or "God" and I want to know who that is? Not what God is or biblical quotes, I want to know what you see in your mind when you talk to God?” Jesus, the Creator of the universe is who I see.

“How do you know the your religion is the right one and all others are wrong?” First, religion is what man can do for a god to achieve a desired result for ones self. So, if I may rephrase your question, how do I know my God is the right one? Mostly I have seen His work in my life… He has shown me out of seemingly impossible situations, and has never forsaken me, which is EXACLY what the Bible says about Him.

“Look at what this other nut wrote to me. This is because he thinks he is right and everyone else is wrong. Can you tell me why you are right and Buddha is wrong? Ali, Mohamed? Why is only Jesus to be followed?” To be honest where is Buddha? Dead in the ground. And Mohamed? The same. Jesus, was tortured and killed for my sin, and three days after his death He came back, revealed to 500+ people before he ascended to heaven. He’s the only one who’s alive. The only one who revealed himself to be God and demonstrated it to be so.

“How can Heaven be Heaven if someone you love is not there?” That’s a great question… I guess me answer to that would be is you’re only responsible for you and your relationship with God… You can’t make someone believe just like you can’t make someone love you… Free will is (please pardon the term) a bitch. The truth is you don’t know the hearts of your loved ones and you don’t know if God took them to heaven or not… Only you can decide for yourself.


“How can a man put two of every living creatures on a boat when every living reature is not nearly known?” It happened or you and I and other creatures wouldn’t be here.

“And don't tell me anything beyond what the majority believe which is that this littery happened. They are the religion.” I’m not sure what you’re referring to here.

“How can God haven a son and his son NOT be a God?” God is the Son. God in relationship with man, as a man.

“Man made that ultimate decision not Jesus.” I’m not sure what you’re referring to here.

“How can we understand something that is omnipotant?” We can’t.

“Why try to believe in a 2,000 year old book written by people, translated by people, and on and on?” Because of the importance of these writings and how people took a great deal of care to copy and protect them.

“My questions can go on forever. It is not the consept it is religion, organized and abused, that I have a problem with.” I would refer you back to my original statement of religion.

Level 5

Since: Jun 12

Deadwood, SD

#366 Feb 28, 2013
Kawalski wrote:
<quoted text>Who asked you?
This isn`t being very friendly
Kawalski wrote:
<quoted text>Don't bother. i already know your reply.
How do you expect to have a discussion when you are being snarky? You do realize that your opinion, isn`t the only one out there, don`t you?
The Infantile left Winged

Redding, CA

#367 Mar 1, 2013
But, Jesus is NOT an opinion.
Jesus IS... The Way, The Truth, and The Life!

And He proved it by defeating... Death, Hell and The Grave!

“Invisible Pink Unicorn”

Since: May 08

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#368 Mar 3, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you trying to be serious?!
Sorry buddy it's all the same and the same truth. It's becoming more and more obvious that you really don't know what you're talking about.
Isaiah 7:14
King James Version (KJV)
14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.


Isaiah 7:14 (Revised Standard Version)
Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign. Behold, a young woman[a] shall conceive and bear[b] a son, and shall call his name Imman&#8242;u-el.

Mary was not a virgin but a young women that got pregnant. Big diffidence...

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#369 Mar 3, 2013
The Infantile left Winged wrote:
But, Jesus is NOT an opinion.
Jesus IS... The Way, The Truth, and The Life!
And He proved it by defeating... Death, Hell and The Grave!
History is full of god's that have beaten death.

Truth is the first story don't stand a chance against later stories.later stories make use of early gods and make them their own.

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#370 Mar 3, 2013
Jammercolo wrote:
<quoted text>Isaiah 7:14
King James Version (KJV)
14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.


Isaiah 7:14 (Revised Standard Version)
Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign. Behold, a young woman[a] shall conceive and bear[b] a son, and shall call his name Imman&#8242;u-el.

Mary was not a virgin but a young women that got pregnant. Big diffidence...
Well, because YOU say so it must be true! I can't believe in Jesus now!!!

2 verses and ignorance equals a lost soul which is you.

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#371 Mar 3, 2013
Jammercolo wrote:
<quoted text>History is full of god's that have beaten death.

Truth is the first story don't stand a chance against later stories.later stories make use of early gods and make them their own.
Cite... And cite the ones who came back to life where there were witnesses?

“I think therefore I...forgot!!”

Level 5

Since: Nov 12

Littleton, CO

#372 Mar 3, 2013
The arrogance is what bothers me the most. How can one religion say that it is the only true one and if you believe in a different religion you are going to hell?

ARROGANCE!!!

How can someone think they know or understand an omnipotent being?

ARROGANCE!!!

I can only know what I know until I know better.

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#373 Mar 3, 2013
Kawalski wrote:
The arrogance is what bothers me the most. How can one religion say that it is the only true one and if you believe in a different religion you are going to hell?

ARROGANCE!!!

How can someone think they know or understand an omnipotent being?

ARROGANCE!!!

I can only know what I know until I know better.
There is a difference between arrogance and assurance.

You can be assured Walmart sells items for much less than other retail stores.

"How can one religion say that it is the only true one and if you believe in a different religion you are going to hell?" You seem very stuck on religion and I'm not sure you have a clear understanding of religion as compared to beliefs.
"How can someone think they know or understand an omnipotent being?" Because that Being left a book letting people know Him specifically.

I guess my question to you is what evidence do you have that proves the Bible to be wrong or untrue?

“I think therefore I...forgot!!”

Level 5

Since: Nov 12

Littleton, CO

#374 Mar 4, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>
There is a difference between arrogance and assurance.
You can be assured Walmart sells items for much less than other retail stores.
"How can one religion say that it is the only true one and if you believe in a different religion you are going to hell?" You seem very stuck on religion and I'm not sure you have a clear understanding of religion as compared to beliefs.
"How can someone think they know or understand an omnipotent being?" Because that Being left a book letting people know Him specifically.
I guess my question to you is what evidence do you have that proves the Bible to be wrong or untrue?
I am sorry you don't see that I have an excellent grasp of the difference between religion and belief because that takes us back a long way. I don't want to go that far back since I have done that far to much. I would like to get ahead even though I realize that I will have to redo an awful lot.
So if you wish to assume that I understand that I know this difference maybe you will answer the question? Take out "Believe" and insert follow.

Did I ask you how there can be a heaven if someone I love is not there? Please answer this one. Do I need to elaborate?

The word "Believe" has lost it's proper connotation.

be·lieved be·liev·ing

Definition of BELIEVE

intransitive verb

1

a : to have a firm religious faith

b : to accept something as true, genuine, or real <ideals we believe in> <believes in ghosts>

2

: to have a firm conviction as to the goodness, efficacy, or ability of something <believe in exercise>

3

: to hold an opinion : think <I believe so>

transitive verb

1

a : to consider to be true or honest <believe the reports> <you wouldn't believe how long it took>

b : to accept the word or evidence of <I believe you> <couldn't believe my ears>

2

: to hold as an opinion : suppose <I believe it will rain soon>

— be·liev·er noun

— not believe

: to be astounded at <I couldn't believe my luck>

With this in mind I "Believe" we can go on using the word.

There is not a religion on earth that I can believe in enough to follow. However, there are parts of all religions (that I am aware of) that I have used to come to my personal beliefs.

“I think therefore I...forgot!!”

Level 5

Since: Nov 12

Littleton, CO

#375 Mar 4, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>
There is a difference between arrogance and assurance.
You can be assured Walmart sells items for much less than other retail stores.
"How can one religion say that it is the only true one and if you believe in a different religion you are going to hell?" You seem very stuck on religion and I'm not sure you have a clear understanding of religion as compared to beliefs.
"How can someone think they know or understand an omnipotent being?" Because that Being left a book letting people know Him specifically.
I guess my question to you is what evidence do you have that proves the Bible to be wrong or untrue?
I guess my question to you is what evidence do you have that proves the Bible to be wrong or untrue?

Over 2,000 years old.

Lost in translation.

Pretty much all of the standard answers along with many things I can find no logic in.

Even though I have answered your question I don't think I have ever said anything about the Bible being wrong or untrue. To state that something is wrong or not true that thing must give direct statements with only a single interpretation. The Bible is the quintessential opposite of that.

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Since: Oct 10

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#377 Mar 4, 2013
Kawalski wrote:
<quoted text>I am sorry you don't see that I have an excellent grasp of the difference between religion and belief because that takes us back a long way. I don't want to go that far back since I have done that far to much. I would like to get ahead even though I realize that I will have to redo an awful lot.
So if you wish to assume that I understand that I know this difference maybe you will answer the question? Take out "Believe" and insert follow.
Did I ask you how there can be a heaven if someone I love is not there? Please answer this one. Do I need to elaborate?
The word "Believe" has lost it's proper connotation.
be·lieved be·liev·ing
Definition of BELIEVE
intransitive verb
1
a : to have a firm religious faith
b : to accept something as true, genuine, or real <ideals we believe in> <believes in ghosts>
2
: to have a firm conviction as to the goodness, efficacy, or ability of something <believe in exercise>
3
: to hold an opinion : think <I believe so>
transitive verb
1
a : to consider to be true or honest <believe the reports> <you wouldn't believe how long it took>
b : to accept the word or evidence of <I believe you> <couldn't believe my ears>
2
: to hold as an opinion : suppose <I believe it will rain soon>
— be·liev·er noun
— not believe
: to be astounded at <I couldn't believe my luck>
With this in mind I "Believe" we can go on using the word.
There is not a religion on earth that I can believe in enough to follow. However, there are parts of all religions (that I am aware of) that I have used to come to my personal beliefs.
“Did I ask you how there can be a heaven if someone I love is not there? Please answer this one. Do I need to elaborate?” I answered this… How do you know someone you love isn’t there? How do you know the heart of that person you love better that the One who created that person? The truth… There is Heaven and there is Grace and there is Love regardless of how you feel about people you love being there. You may not like the answer, but that’s your choice… and that’s a gift from God whether you choose to acknowledge it or not.

You seem to use the word “religion” with the same or similar definition of “believe”…
Definition of RELIGION
1
a: the state of a religious <a nun in her 20th year of religion>
b (1): the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2): commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance

Like I said before, RELIGION is what man can do for God… not a uniform “BELIEF”. Hence why there are so many denominations of Biblical fashion.

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#378 Mar 4, 2013
Kawalski wrote:
<quoted text>
I guess my question to you is what evidence do you have that proves the Bible to be wrong or untrue?
Over 2,000 years old.
Lost in translation.
Pretty much all of the standard answers along with many things I can find no logic in.
Even though I have answered your question I don't think I have ever said anything about the Bible being wrong or untrue. To state that something is wrong or not true that thing must give direct statements with only a single interpretation. The Bible is the quintessential opposite of that.
“Over 2,000 years old.” Meaning what? The old testament (which is the same God that is in the new) is even older than that… The Bible has been used by archeologists worldwide and still providing evidence of civilizations listed and told. The Bible, you will find, is historical and accurate.
“Lost in translation.” Again, meaning what? The Bible was only written in three languages, Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek. All of which are still know today and easily translated to many other languages.

“Pretty much all of the standard answers along with many things I can find no logic in.”???

“Even though I have answered your question I don't think I have ever said anything about the Bible being wrong or untrue. To state that something is wrong or not true that thing must give direct statements with only a single interpretation. The Bible is the quintessential opposite of that.” How do you come to that assertion?

Level 5

Since: Jun 12

Deadwood, SD

#379 Mar 4, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>
“Over 2,000 years old.” Meaning what? The old testament (which is the same God that is in the new) is even older than that… The Bible has been used by archeologists worldwide and still providing evidence of civilizations listed and told. The Bible, you will find, is historical and accurate.
“Lost in translation.” Again, meaning what? The Bible was only written in three languages, Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek. All of which are still know today and easily translated to many other languages.
“Pretty much all of the standard answers along with many things I can find no logic in.”???
“Even though I have answered your question I don't think I have ever said anything about the Bible being wrong or untrue. To state that something is wrong or not true that thing must give direct statements with only a single interpretation. The Bible is the quintessential opposite of that.” How do you come to that assertion?
Actually, many of the original stories from the old testament, were translated from ancient Sumerian and Akkadian stories written many years before the Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek languages even existed.

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#380 Mar 5, 2013
_Twisted Wicked_ wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, many of the original stories from the old testament, were translated from ancient Sumerian and Akkadian stories written many years before the Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek languages even existed.
The Old Testament was written in Hebrew and Aramaic. The Mesopotamian religion was written in Sumerian and Akkadian and yes, you are correct, the stories are similar, however, they are not the same.

Level 5

Since: Jun 12

Deadwood, SD

#381 Mar 5, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>
The Old Testament was written in Hebrew and Aramaic. The Mesopotamian religion was written in Sumerian and Akkadian and yes, you are correct, the stories are similar, however, they are not the same.
History is written by the winners of all conflicts. Many Hebrew stories origins were based on Sumerian tales. The Epic of Gilgamesh is the first one to come to mind.

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