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#50 Nov 22, 2012
Mehh wrote:
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The bakers didn't ask for MORE, they asked for the same, that isn't greed.
Hostess employees were asked to take an 8% cut in wages and a 17% cut in benefits. Meanwhile, Hostess management is recieving $1.75 Million in incentive bonuses.

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#51 Nov 22, 2012
Yep, they got those bonuses for making bad business decisions that caused the Hostess company to go into Bankruptcy.

We get production bonuses at work but it is for doing good work, not bad.

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#52 Nov 22, 2012
Mehh wrote:
<quoted text>The bakers didn't ask for MORE, they asked for the same, that isn't greed.
Yes. In a failing economy it is. The result is nothing!
Mehh

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#54 Nov 23, 2012
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Yes. In a failing economy it is. The result is nothing!
No, greed is wanting more, not wanting the status quo. They weren't commission jobs.

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#55 Nov 23, 2012
Mehh wrote:
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No, greed is wanting more, not wanting the status quo. They weren't commission jobs.
Everyone wants more… And “status quo” isn’t possible when there is a lack of profits… Many since 2008 have taken cuts and we are still at 8% unemployment… Gratitude and compromise is what would have saved their jobs, NOT greed. The result is clear.
Mehh

Naperville, IL

#56 Nov 23, 2012
Respect71 wrote:
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Everyone wants more… And “status quo” isn’t possible when there is a lack of profits… Many since 2008 have taken cuts and we are still at 8% unemployment… Gratitude and compromise is what would have saved their jobs, NOT greed. The result is clear.
They owe Hostess as much "gratitude" for the jobs as Hostess owes them "gratitude" for their service. Employment is a "square" deal, workers don't "owe" their employers anything other than showing up and doing their jobs correctly. They had already compromised and taken cuts, and weren't willing to take more, again, that isn't "greed". The result is clear, and that's fine. Hostess made their choice, the former employees made theirs, it's business.

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#57 Nov 23, 2012
Mehh wrote:
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They owe Hostess as much "gratitude" for the jobs as Hostess owes them "gratitude" for their service. Employment is a "square" deal, workers don't "owe" their employers anything other than showing up and doing their jobs correctly. They had already compromised and taken cuts, and weren't willing to take more, again, that isn't "greed". The result is clear, and that's fine. Hostess made their choice, the former employees made theirs, it's business.
The lack of gratitude and compromise is what lost them their jobs… Their choice. So no need to whine.

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