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Mehh

Naperville, IL

#47 Nov 22, 2012
FOX knews wrote:
<quoted text>What both of you are not addressing is that only working people will have to pay for it..63% of obama voters are on welfare and will get free obamacare while the rest of Hard working American pay for it in being taxed by obamatax.
I think its funny how you people talk like it will save your entire world but Im guessing you are part of the 63% and pay no taxes to begin with.
Its so odd how YOU act like its free or something...
Only working people will suffer obamatax laws.
Only obama supporters cheer for obamacare.
Isnt it odd ?
Is that what my post said? BTW, 63% of those who voted Obama are not on welfare. Also, 10 to 1 says I'm in a higher tax bracket than you. What is your solution? I'm all ears. Your attitude, the language that you use is the EXACT reason the GOP has dwindled. Personally, I'm pro-gun, pro-capital punishment, pro-immigration law enforcement, think abortion law is too lax although, am not for banning it, and think, actually know that the government is terrible at getting it's dollar's worth. It's just hard to throw one's hat in with a bunch of people that insist that poor people are "lazy" and argue about the most insignificant b.s. One of the problems also is that the uber-rich and the corporations don't think they need to "suffer" with the working class, that their profits shouldn't take a hit along with the jobs of the working class consumers in a down economy. If they don't like Obamacare, or other public programs people go to when they're poor they need to sacrifice on the private end otherwise reap what they sow on the public end as EVERYONE gets a vote. Corporations should NOT get tax breaks/credits when they ship jobs overseas. I think if Romney took this "radical" (in the eyes of the GOP) position he just may have swayed the electorate. Anyway, I find a little irony that those who yell the loudest about the evils of socialism are many of the same ones driving America further towards it. The proof is in the metaphorical pudding of the last 2 elections.
Mehh

Naperville, IL

#48 Nov 22, 2012
Respect71 wrote:
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Then go work for Hostess... WAIT! You can’t because the bakers got greedy. sad
The bakers didn't ask for MORE, they asked for the same, that isn't greed.
soapmann

Pittsburgh, PA

#49 Nov 22, 2012
youtube.com/watch... … Old Fart ,,,Obama let Hostess go out of business

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Cathouse Mouse

#50 Nov 22, 2012
Mehh wrote:
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The bakers didn't ask for MORE, they asked for the same, that isn't greed.
Hostess employees were asked to take an 8% cut in wages and a 17% cut in benefits. Meanwhile, Hostess management is recieving $1.75 Million in incentive bonuses.

Bain Capitalism.

“The (R)ich Party Lies!”

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#51 Nov 22, 2012
Yep, they got those bonuses for making bad business decisions that caused the Hostess company to go into Bankruptcy.

We get production bonuses at work but it is for doing good work, not bad.

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#52 Nov 22, 2012
Mehh wrote:
<quoted text>The bakers didn't ask for MORE, they asked for the same, that isn't greed.
Yes. In a failing economy it is. The result is nothing!
Mehh

Naperville, IL

#54 Nov 23, 2012
Respect71 wrote:
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Yes. In a failing economy it is. The result is nothing!
No, greed is wanting more, not wanting the status quo. They weren't commission jobs.

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#55 Nov 23, 2012
Mehh wrote:
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No, greed is wanting more, not wanting the status quo. They weren't commission jobs.
Everyone wants more… And “status quo” isn’t possible when there is a lack of profits… Many since 2008 have taken cuts and we are still at 8% unemployment… Gratitude and compromise is what would have saved their jobs, NOT greed. The result is clear.
Mehh

Naperville, IL

#56 Nov 23, 2012
Respect71 wrote:
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Everyone wants more… And “status quo” isn’t possible when there is a lack of profits… Many since 2008 have taken cuts and we are still at 8% unemployment… Gratitude and compromise is what would have saved their jobs, NOT greed. The result is clear.
They owe Hostess as much "gratitude" for the jobs as Hostess owes them "gratitude" for their service. Employment is a "square" deal, workers don't "owe" their employers anything other than showing up and doing their jobs correctly. They had already compromised and taken cuts, and weren't willing to take more, again, that isn't "greed". The result is clear, and that's fine. Hostess made their choice, the former employees made theirs, it's business.

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#57 Nov 23, 2012
Mehh wrote:
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They owe Hostess as much "gratitude" for the jobs as Hostess owes them "gratitude" for their service. Employment is a "square" deal, workers don't "owe" their employers anything other than showing up and doing their jobs correctly. They had already compromised and taken cuts, and weren't willing to take more, again, that isn't "greed". The result is clear, and that's fine. Hostess made their choice, the former employees made theirs, it's business.
The lack of gratitude and compromise is what lost them their jobs… Their choice. So no need to whine.

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