Republicans the party of LIARS

KarlVIIIII

“No Tea for Me”

Since: Nov 13

Centennial, Co

#12684 Apr 21, 2014
Adam 36 wrote:
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Democrat Howard Dean Admits Obamacare Includes Death Panels, Wants Them Repealed
http://www.lifenews.com/2013/07/29/howard-dea...
The ACA LAW specifically states:

The 15-member IPAB would make RECOMMENDATIONS for cutting spending that could be overridden by Congress, or Congress could institute its own reductions to what the IPAB puts forth.

NO "Death panels" unless you consider Congress a "death panel" so far the ONLY death panels lay solely within' the republican party it's self!

Adam 36
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#12685 Apr 21, 2014
KarlVIIIII wrote:
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The ACA LAW specifically states:
The 15-member IPAB would make RECOMMENDATIONS for cutting spending that could be overridden by Congress, or Congress could institute its own reductions to what the IPAB puts forth.
NO "Death panels" unless you consider Congress a "death panel" so far the ONLY death panels lay solely within' the republican party it's self!
AMA Opposes Independent Payment Advisory Board

One of the most controversial provisions of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act was the establishment of an Independent Payment Advisory Board (IPAB). While some applaud the new advisory board as a mechanism for controlling health care costs outside the influence of political processes and pressures, others have criticized the scope of its authority and the lack of flexibility in its mandate. Because of these serious concerns, the American Medical Association opposes the IPAB and supports its repeal.

https://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/advocacy/top...

KarlVIIIII

“No Tea for Me”

Since: Nov 13

Centennial, Co

#12686 Apr 21, 2014
Adam 36 wrote:
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What obstruction? Obama got his $ Trillion shovel ready job stimulus that did nothing he promised.
Obama also increased the National debt by over $ 7 Trillion to supposedly stimulate the economy and also did nothing he promised.
Obama is nothing but a Community Organizer way out of his league.
93% of the economists surveyed agreed, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 helped reduce unemployment

CBO’s analysis found that the "shovel ready" stimulus package added as many as 3.3 million jobs to the economy during the second quarter of 2010, and prevented the nation from lapsing into a worsening recession.

“Headline already in use”

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Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#12687 Apr 21, 2014
KarlVIIIII wrote:
I do not recall that specific question, however I will gladly answer.
Coal, the world's most popular energy resource, produces the highest greenhouse gas emissions per energy unit out of all energy sources.
What's not to love about global warming?

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KarlVIIIII wrote:
The UNEP estimates that burning coal generates 70 percent more carbon dioxide than using natural gas.
Burning natural gas produces CO2 and H2O, both greenhouse gases.

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KarlVIIIII wrote:
Similarly, other non-renewable energy sources such as oil and natural gas produce high levels of emissions, which contribute to fossil fuels being the greatest source of greenhouse gas emissions.
Then again, its hard to find a cleaner burning fuel than natural gas.

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KarlVIIIII wrote:
All of which have also been linked to climate change.
Not by experimental tests; there's never been a sucesful demonstration of climate change mitigation so we have no data showing how much it will cost and whether it will do more harm than good.

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KarlVIIIII wrote:
Renewable energy sources include solar, wind, biomass, geothermal and hydro power. These resources do not become depleted or exhausted.
You've never seen a dead river below a damn blocked by sediment? In the USA, we tear down more damns than we build.

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KarlVIIIII wrote:
For example, wind is always present and harnessing wind for power does not deplete the resource. According to the International Energy Agency, the commercial exploitation of renewable energy resources is low because of the high cost of development and delivery. Renewable sources of energy are renewable and easily regenerated. This is unlike fossil fuels which are perishable once used.
In a sense, coal is renewable too. Once you burn a lump of coal, you can always buy more but if you use solar or wind, you're completely dependent on environmental variables beyond your control.

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KarlVIIIII wrote:
Renewable source of energy such as solar produce clean energy that does not pollute the environment. This is because no burning is required during usage of the energy. Most importantly, renewable energy are available everywhere throughout the world thus there is no chance of the sources becoming depleted in future. For example, solar energy is everywhere as the sun will always be there every day. Maintenance cost needed to install and use the renewable energy is relatively cheap. Solar energy can be trapped easily and used for domestic needs. Renewable sources of energy boost economic growth and increase job opportunities. This includes electrical energy which is used to run many industries.
Since the mid-1980s, the world’s population has exceeded its ecological footprint. In other words, people are consuming resources faster than the earth can replenish them.
If we do not put more emphasis on renewable energy what will we depend on when ALL of the fossil fuels are gone? And you Republicans are always harping on our children's future....seems like when it comes to energy you don't much give a damn now does it!
Tom Steyer and his crony capitalist pals are hanging the taxpayer out to dry, with loan guarantees, subsidies and mandates that force consumers to buy inefficient and unpopular renewable energy. Note how solar and wind power fail when government doesn't offer subsidies.

Let's get the government out of energy policy, since they do such bad work. We need an energy policy that encourages the production and use of energy and fuel.

Adam 36
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Since: Aug 13

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#12688 Apr 21, 2014
KarlVIIIII wrote:
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93% of the economists surveyed agreed, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 helped reduce unemployment
CBO’s analysis found that the "shovel ready" stimulus package added as many as 3.3 million jobs to the economy during the second quarter of 2010, and prevented the nation from lapsing into a worsening recession.
What were the projections PRIOR to passing the Stimulus?

Why don't we compare?

KarlVIIIII

“No Tea for Me”

Since: Nov 13

Centennial, Co

#12689 Apr 21, 2014
Adam 36 wrote:
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AMA Opposes Independent Payment Advisory Board
One of the most controversial provisions of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act was the establishment of an Independent Payment Advisory Board (IPAB). While some applaud the new advisory board as a mechanism for controlling health care costs outside the influence of political processes and pressures, others have criticized the scope of its authority and the lack of flexibility in its mandate. Because of these serious concerns, the American Medical Association opposes the IPAB and supports its repeal.
https://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/advocacy/top...
Simple answer, If you were a Doctor that could charge whatever you wanted for whatever procedure you wanted to administer, would you want anyone holding you accountable?

My late Father was a Cardiologist back in the day.....He would not so jokingly confess when he wanted a new car he would schedule two or three "extra" bi-pass surgeries to pay for his new ride.

Now Surgeons, Doctors and ALL health Care professionals are held accountable!

Adam 36
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Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#12691 Apr 21, 2014
KarlVIIIII wrote:
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Simple answer, If you were a Doctor that could charge whatever you wanted for whatever procedure you wanted to administer, would you want anyone holding you accountable?
My late Father was a Cardiologist back in the day.....He would not so jokingly confess when he wanted a new car he would schedule two or three "extra" bi-pass surgeries to pay for his new ride.
Now Surgeons, Doctors and ALL health Care professionals are held accountable!
You mean insurance paid whatever the Docs billed? I don't believe it

KarlVIIIII

“No Tea for Me”

Since: Nov 13

Centennial, Co

#12692 Apr 21, 2014
Adam 36 wrote:
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You mean insurance paid whatever the Docs billed? I don't believe it
Doctors were ENCOURAGED by insurance companies to administer unnecessary costly procedures! No regulation is like letting the addicts guard the confiscated cocaine!

Adam 36
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Since: Aug 13

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#12693 Apr 21, 2014
KarlVIIIII wrote:
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Doctors were ENCOURAGED by insurance companies to administer unnecessary costly procedures! No regulation is like letting the addicts guard the confiscated cocaine!
Prove it
Glo Bull Warming LOL

Penn Valley, CA

#12694 Apr 21, 2014
Adam 36 wrote:
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Prove it
Well now... oblamer said it's true, so it must be. Right??? LMAO

Obama: Doctors Choose Amputation Because Surgeons Get Paid


But then again, there's this...

Poll: Americans think Obama is a liar

It took a few years, but Americans are finally coming around to the same opinion as famed congressional heckler Joe Wilson: Obama lies.
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/17/poll-americ...

And yes, I am one who believes/knows that oblamer is a 'pathological liar'.

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#12695 Apr 21, 2014
Get Right or Get Left wrote:
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It sure does look like you are into the legalization of pot there gbf! LMAO
No really... are you stoned or just stupid??? LMAO at you!
FED SURVEY: GROWTH UP ACROSS MOST OF U.S. AP(4-17-14) Washington -- A Federal Reserve survey shows economic growth picking up across most of the United States, over the past two months as bitter winter subsides.....Ten of the Fed's 12 regions reported an increase in economic activity, according to the Beige Book survey released Wednesday. In most places, the Fed describes the improvement as "modest and moderate." Only Cleveland and St. Louis reported slower growth.....In March and early April, consumers took advantage of better weather to go shopping. Manufacturing expanded across most of the country. Ports and highways were busier. Across most of the country, home prices rose modestly and homebuilding picked up. Tourism was "generally positive." In several regions, ski resorts reported record seasons.....

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#12696 Apr 21, 2014
Get Right or Get Left wrote:
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It sure does look like you are into the legalization of pot there gbf! LMAO
No really... are you stoned or just stupid??? LMAO at you!
Sorry, you've chosen clueless as your path, through life.....

KarlVIIIII

“No Tea for Me”

Since: Nov 13

Centennial, Co

#12697 Apr 21, 2014
Adam 36 wrote:
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Prove it
From the AMA:“In an article titled ‘Saying No To Surgery,’ the Los Angeles Times (5/12, 692K) reported on the “nationwide need to curb unnecessary surgery and cut back on a range of over-prescribed medical tests and procedures.

Most physicians and hospitals in the U.S. are paid on a fee-for-service basis, medical care is organized around treating a specific episode of illness rather than the whole patient. This system encouraged over-treatment and lead to mistakes and mis-diagnosis in a concerted effort to profit the insurance companies bottom line.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/brucejapsen/2013/...

Adam 36
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#12698 Apr 21, 2014
KarlVIIIII wrote:
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From the AMA:“In an article titled ‘Saying No To Surgery,’ the Los Angeles Times (5/12, 692K) reported on the “nationwide need to curb unnecessary surgery and cut back on a range of over-prescribed medical tests and procedures.
Most physicians and hospitals in the U.S. are paid on a fee-for-service basis, medical care is organized around treating a specific episode of illness rather than the whole patient. This system encouraged over-treatment and lead to mistakes and mis-diagnosis in a concerted effort to profit the insurance companies bottom line.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/brucejapsen/2013/...
You are basing this on 130 tests for 725,000 doctors? Surely you jest.

Since the campaign was launched last year, more than 130 tests and procedures have been called into question by 25 medical specialty societies with more than 725,000 member doctors

KarlVIIIII

“No Tea for Me”

Since: Nov 13

Centennial, Co

#12699 Apr 21, 2014
Adam 36 wrote:
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You are basing this on 130 tests for 725,000 doctors? Surely you jest.
Since the campaign was launched last year, more than 130 tests and procedures have been called into question by 25 medical specialty societies with more than 725,000 member doctors
What do you base your unfounded conclusion's on?

What Rush Limbaugh spews?

Or what FoxNoise leads you to believe

I myself consider an impartial review to be solid evidence.

Your reply is however a typical Tactic of Karl Rove Fright wing response.....If you do not like the findings attack the source.

Adam 36
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#12700 Apr 21, 2014
KarlVIIIII wrote:
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What do you base your unfounded conclusion's on?
What Rush Limbaugh spews?
Or what FoxNoise leads you to believe
I myself consider an impartial review to be solid evidence.
Your reply is however a typical Tactic of Karl Rove Fright wing response.....If you do not like the findings attack the source.
I based it on your link. What did you base it on? George Soros and Mediamatters?
You can call me Dick

Bartow, GA

#12701 Apr 21, 2014
KarlVIIIII wrote:
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The ACA LAW specifically states:
The 15-member IPAB would make RECOMMENDATIONS for cutting spending that could be overridden by Congress, or Congress could institute its own reductions to what the IPAB puts forth.
NO "Death panels" unless you consider Congress a "death panel" so far the ONLY death panels lay solely within' the republican party it's self!
Skippity do dah. Ask your self, do you really want a bunch of ass monkeys in Washington setting the standard of care?

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Since: Oct 10

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#12703 Apr 21, 2014
KarlVIIIII wrote:
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Again, Again and AGAIN.......
Here is a LINK do your own research....
http://nccs.urban.org/
MOST if not ALL Charities in the U.S. receive Government Grants......
Why do you think charities file taxes as a "NON-PROFIT"??????
You are not all that bright are you......Oh' yea you do vote Republican, never mind!!!!!
You lie like our president.

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Since: Oct 10

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#12704 Apr 21, 2014
KarlVIIIII wrote:
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That is NOT what I said.....
I said 99.9% of all charities in the U.S. receive government grants......AND THEY DO!!!!
AND what does Charities and their money grab from tax payers have to do with:
31 percent of Americans favor the federal government providing subsidies to oil, gas, and coal companies, while 62 percent oppose.
58 percent of Americans are in support of government subsidies to wind, solar, and hydrogen companies, while 36 percent oppose.
the only demographic to oppose alternative energy subsidies are self-identified conservatives.
As education increases, so does support for alternative energy subsidies rising from 51 percent among high school grads to 65 percent among college graduates. Young people are also more supportive, including 70 percent of millennials
Cite your source liar... Especially after you admitted to lying about this before?

Clean energy is very expensive and not efficient... That’s why these companies are taking taxpayer dollars and dying because they basically suck and providing cheap efficient energy.

Not that I buy the numbers you spew, because you lie like our president, but even if they were true the general public cant afford the energy you are speaking about.

You are for government waste... Stealing from the future generations of this country and giving back nothing. The sad thing you you’re doing the very thing you accuse republicans of... You don’t care.
You can call me Dick

United States

#12705 Apr 21, 2014
Righteous wrote:
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You mean the SAME ass monkeys that are exempt from oblemO-care?????? that was funny!!!
Well the IPAB panel would not be the same ass monkey's in the house and senate, but in the broadest reasonable interpretation..... Yes

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