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#11475 Jan 11, 2014
KarlVIIIII wrote:
Hey Respect71, Do you know what this is?
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
I'll give you a hint....A very LIBERAL preamble...
You notice it is about "we" and "us" and "our" and "general welfare" and "establishment of justice." All fundamentally LIBERAL..
Where as Conservatives are about Individualism totally CONTRARY to the preamble of the Constitution!
Just thought you would like to know the Constitution you so adamantly pretend to "defend" is a VERY LIBERAL document written by OUR Country's LIBERAL founders...
Your "LIBERAL" leaders are a very far cry from our founders...

http://www.denverpost.com/politics/ci_2488097...
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#11476 Jan 12, 2014
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>“I made the comment in jest....Apparently you took it literally....So please explain...Do you think the V.A.(Veterans Administration) is a Socialist entity?” Yes.

“Again and Again....What does a good Law/Bad Law have to do with you defending the Constitution?” If the Constitution is written for ALL Americans why are our democrat representatives writing laws the force ALL to pay but benefit very few?

“One out of three Americans under 65 were without health insurance in 2007 and 2008” 2013 250,000 Coloradans were dropped from their insurance BECAUSE of obamacare and MILLIONS around our Country... Representatives tried to lie and cover it up. Your number seems meaningless in comparison.

“And to my point why should these Americans go uninsured in the wealthiest country in the world?” 5 million dropped because of obamacare so why don't you ask the question again.

“America has a moral responsibility to take care of it's poor and vulnerable regardless of what the Republicans think! Please tell. What would you and your party do for the uninsured and poor in the wealthiest country on earth?”Charities will do better than federal government... Katrina was a great example of that.

“And on another point. The Republicans killed or ignored at least 5 bills that would have created jobs in this country last legislative session.....Then discontinued unemployment insurance benefits for millions of Americans with husband's, wife's and CHILDREN and told them to "get a job" What a slap in the American people's face....Then they wonder why their approval rating is 22%

So tell me what do you think these Americans should think of the GOP?”

Democrats have the power! They pick and choose their agenda and they know what republicans will try to appose... and all they wanted was OBAMACARE and more spending for failing entitlement programs... Removing freedom for all and allowing to much power for some.
Democrats have the power? The Republicans filibustered more than anyone else had in the history of the USA. Nice try.

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#11477 Jan 12, 2014
guest wrote:
<quoted text>Democrats have the power? The Republicans filibustered more than anyone else had in the history of the USA. Nice try.
It's because they have the power that the republicans filibustered. Take a civics class.
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United States

#11478 Jan 12, 2014
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>It's because they have the power that the republicans filibustered. Take a civics class.
They only have the power IF they have a Super Majority.

You take your own advice.

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#11479 Jan 12, 2014
guest wrote:
<quoted text>They only have the power IF they have a Super Majority.

You take your own advice.
They did! Thus, OBAMACARE. Now they have held on to the White House and the Senate. So you are claiming the republicans have the power? Then explain the new budget deal? Explain how the republicans are all powerful and then explain how moral it is to continue raise our national debt, effectively stealing from our children, grandchildren and great grandchildren?
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#11480 Jan 12, 2014
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>They did! Thus, OBAMACARE. Now they have held on to the White House and the Senate. So you are claiming the republicans have the power? Then explain the new budget deal? Explain how the republicans are all powerful and then explain how moral it is to continue raise our national debt, effectively stealing from our children, grandchildren and great grandchildren?
They don't have the Super Majority now. They only had that the first 2 years of Obama's term.
No one complained when the Republicans raised the debt under their 6 years of total control of the House and Senate while Bush was in office.
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United States

#11481 Jan 12, 2014
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>They did! Thus, OBAMACARE. Now they have held on to the White House and the Senate. So you are claiming the republicans have the power? Then explain the new budget deal? Explain how the republicans are all powerful and then explain how moral it is to continue raise our national debt, effectively stealing from our children, grandchildren and great grandchildren?
Karl said the republicans held back 5 bills that would create jobs. They did it with the filibuster. Grow a pair and admit when you are wrong.

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Since: Nov 13

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#11482 Jan 12, 2014
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you think the V.A.(Veterans Administration) is a Socialist entity? Yes.
Then you would think the Fire department, Police department, National Defense (military) Public Schools, Postal service EVERY Government entity paid by taxpayers for the benefit of American citizens Are Socialist entities.....Huh, I didn't know America was a Socialist Country!
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>
If the Constitution is written for ALL Americans why are our democrat representatives writing laws the force ALL to pay but benefit very few?
Bills are written by both parties then voted on to become a Law TAKE A CIVICS COURSE
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>
250,000 Coloradans were dropped from their insurance BECAUSE of obamacare and MILLIONS around our Country
Cite Your Source....No one was "dropped" their policies changed this happens EVERY YEAR during open enrollment!
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>
Charities will do better than federal government... Katrina was a great example of that.
99.9% of ALL CHARITIES receive GOVERNMENT GRANTS!!! Take an economics course!
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>
Removing freedom for all and allowing to much power for some.
Cite Your Source!

“No Tea for Me”

Since: Nov 13

Centennial, Co

#11483 Jan 12, 2014
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL... Please explain what "general welfare"... I'd love to hear!
There is nothing liberating about a 17 trillion dollar debt and stealing from our children, grandchildren and great grandchildren.
In the preamble to the Constitution is says "Promote the General Welfare" there have been many court battles over the meaning. Personally I believe Promote means to make resources available for ALL citizens

“No Tea for Me”

Since: Nov 13

Centennial, Co

#11485 Jan 12, 2014
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>
Your "LIBERAL" leaders are a very far cry from our founders...
http://www.denverpost.com/politics/ci_2488097...
Did you read the article you posted???? If you had you would have seen where the largest Insurance company's in Colorado Anthem and Kaiser BOTH said the "terminology" used was vague and misleading!!! There were no "Cancelled Policies"

Here's a quote:

"95 percent of those "cancellations" included offers to renew current plans"

"Virtually every Anthem-insured policyholder scheduled for discontinuation had been given an option to continue that coverage and thereby avoided the discontinuation."

Read more: Colorado official felt pressure from Udall office on Obamacare tally - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/politics/ci_2488097...
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#11486 Jan 13, 2014
guest wrote:
<quoted text>
They don't have the Super Majority now. They only had that the first 2 years of Obama's term.
No one complained when the Republicans raised the debt under their 6 years of total control of the House and Senate while Bush was in office.
Are you contending the Democrats dont have the power now when they hold the White House and the Senate?
Yes, Americans complained.

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#11487 Jan 13, 2014
guest wrote:
<quoted text>
Karl said the republicans held back 5 bills that would create jobs. They did it with the filibuster. Grow a pair and admit when you are wrong.
Obama, with a small swoop of him pen, killed the remaining keystone pipeline.
Why do you think the democrats proposed such bills they knew the Republicans would filibuster? Think.

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#11488 Jan 13, 2014
KarlVIIIII wrote:
<quoted text> Then you would think the Fire department, Police department, National Defense (military) Public Schools, Postal service EVERY Government entity paid by taxpayers for the benefit of American citizens Are Socialist entities.....Huh, I didn't know America was a Socialist Country!
<quoted text>Bills are written by both parties then voted on to become a Law TAKE A CIVICS COURSE
<quoted text>Cite Your Source....No one was "dropped" their policies changed this happens EVERY YEAR during open enrollment!
<quoted text>99.9% of ALL CHARITIES receive GOVERNMENT GRANTS!!! Take an economics course!
<quoted text>Cite Your Source!
Then you would think the Fire department, Police department, National Defense (military) Public Schools, Postal service EVERY Government entity paid by taxpayers for the benefit of American citizens Are Socialist entities.....Huh, I didn't know America was a Socialist Country! The Fire department, Police department, National Defense (military) Public Schools, Are in fact socialist entities. Fire, police and National defense are what our government should do to protect our Liberty PUBLIC SCHOOL is, and has been failing our society for some time and it is slowly being taken over by teachers unions and the federal government leaving Americans with NO CHOICE. Liberty removed by government.

Bills are written by both parties then voted on to become a Law TAKE A CIVICS COURSE And how many Republicans voted for OBAMACARE?

Cite Your Source....No one was "dropped" Americans were in fact dropped
their policies changed this happens EVERY YEAR during open enrollment!.Does it? A quarter of a million Americans every year are dropped in just one state and 5million across the Country just because their policies changed? Sorry, I posted my source youre going to have to prove your assertion

99.9% of ALL CHARITIES receive GOVERNMENT GRANTS!!! Take an economics course! Cite your source.

Cite Your Source! lol. OBAMACARE, Public Schools, IRS, and the NSA.

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#11489 Jan 13, 2014
KarlVIIIII wrote:
<quoted text>
In the preamble to the Constitution is says "Promote the General Welfare" there have been many court battles over the meaning. Personally I believe Promote means to make resources available for ALL citizens
What resources? From who or where?

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#11490 Jan 13, 2014
KarlVIIIII wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you read the article you posted???? If you had you would have seen where the largest Insurance company's in Colorado Anthem and Kaiser BOTH said the "terminology" used was vague and misleading!!! There were no "Cancelled Policies"
Here's a quote:
"95 percent of those "cancellations" included offers to renew current plans"
"Virtually every Anthem-insured policyholder scheduled for discontinuation had been given an option to continue that coverage and thereby avoided the discontinuation."
Read more: Colorado official felt pressure from Udall office on Obamacare tally - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/politics/ci_2488097...
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""Virtually every Anthem-insured policyholder scheduled for discontinuation had been given an option to continue that coverage through the end of November 2014, and thereby avoided the discontinuation as originally scheduled for one year," Weiss said. By November, she said, about 13 percent of individual policyholders had opted for renewal, and 28 percent of small group/business consumers."
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#11491 Jan 13, 2014
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>Obama, with a small swoop of him pen, killed the remaining keystone pipeline.
Why do you think the democrats proposed such bills they knew the Republicans would filibuster? Think.
Cite your source. A bill number will do.
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#11492 Jan 13, 2014
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>Are you contending the Democrats don’t have the power now when they hold the White House and the Senate?
Yes, Americans complained.
Any bill that hits the desk of the President HAS to pass in the Republican controlled House.

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#11493 Jan 13, 2014
guest wrote:
<quoted text>
Cite your source. A bill number will do.
LOL Obama doesnt need bill numbers. He has made a countless number of exemptions on OBAMACARE without Congress, so why would he need a bill number.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherhelman...
He put off and already approved project until 2013.. Its 2014
http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2013/07/...
Maybe he should take that civics class with you and get government to pay for you.

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#11494 Jan 13, 2014
guest wrote:
<quoted text>
Any bill that hits the desk of the President HAS to pass in the Republican controlled House.
And then what??? Because the House has voted to repeal OBAMACARE numerous times so based on your assertion should have passed?
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United States

#11495 Jan 13, 2014
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>Obama, with a small swoop of him pen, killed the remaining keystone pipeline.
Why do you think the democrats proposed such bills they knew the Republicans would filibuster? Think.
You said it was a bill. Now you want to change what you said?

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