Republicans the party of LIARS

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#11459 Jan 7, 2014
KarlVIIIII wrote:
<quoted text>You listen to way to many right wing nuts that are paid to LIE....Here is some TRUTH and FACTS...
105 million Americans no longer have lifetime dollar limits on their coverage.
More than 17.6 million children with pre-existing conditions can no longer be denied
So when the Republican's decide to attempt and repeal (with-out replacement, of course) The Affordable Care Act AGAIN they will be TAKING from all these Americans and that will not go over all that well....Mark My Words
<quoted text>Please explain who are "Your kind" and how exactly do you "defend" OUR Constitution with-out including ALL American Citizens. I venture to guess you think the Constitution was written for right wing domestic terrorist types exclusively Huh...
“You listen to way to many right wing nuts that are paid to LIE....Here is some TRUTH and FACTS...” LOL!

“105 million Americans no longer have lifetime dollar limits on their coverage.” As opposed to 212330995 who’s limits were never met.

“More than 17.6 million children with pre-existing conditions can no longer be denied” Interesting no tell us how many were ACTUALLY covered?

“So when the Republican's decide to attempt and repeal (with-out replacement, of course) The Affordable Care Act AGAIN they will be TAKING from all these Americans and that will not go over all that well....Mark My Words” 17 TRILLION DOLLARS IN DEBT for ALL Americans.

“Please explain who are "Your kind" and how exactly do you "defend" OUR Constitution with-out including ALL American Citizens.” Americans who care about the future of our Nation, understanding that a LAW that benefits very little at such a high expense is damaging to ALL Americans.

“I venture to guess you think the Constitution was written for right wing domestic terrorist types exclusively Huh...” Interesting how you can’t defend the 5 million dropped because of bad law, but typical.

Socialism has never worked so why do you think it will magically work now?

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#11460 Jan 7, 2014
Respect71 wrote:
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As opposed to 212330995 who’s limits were never met.
What? You are incoherent...
Respect71 wrote:
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Interesting no tell us how many were ACTUALLY covered?
Before the law, insurance companies routinely denied care because of "pre-existing conditions" such as pregnancy, depression, high blood pressure, glaucoma and attention-deficit disorder.
Most Americans between ages 55 and 64 have a pre-existing condition, according to insurance companies.
25 million Americans are uninsured because of a pre-existing condition.
As many as 82 million Americans with employer-based health plans have a pre-existing condition.

Now they CANNOT be denied insurance that's "How Many"
Respect71 wrote:
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17 TRILLION DOLLARS IN DEBT for ALL Americans.
What's the debt have to do with The Affordable Care Act?
Respect71 wrote:
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Americans who care about the future of our Nation, understanding that a LAW that benefits very little at such a high expense is damaging to ALL Americans.
So what you are saying is you will "defend" the Constitution but ONLY for people with like's/dis-like's of legislation of YOUR liking.....Sorry buddy it does not work that way!
Respect71 wrote:
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Socialism has never worked so why do you think it will magically work now?
What does Socialism have to do with you believing the Constitution was written exclusively for the right wing nut job domestic terrorist types?

hint: The Constitution was written for ALL Americans!!!!

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#11461 Jan 7, 2014
KarlVIIIII wrote:
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“What? You are incoherent...” Apparently you are.

“Before the law, insurance companies routinely denied care because of "pre-existing conditions" such as pregnancy, depression, high blood pressure, glaucoma and attention-deficit disorder.
Most Americans between ages 55 and 64 have a pre-existing condition, according to insurance companies.
25 million Americans are uninsured because of a pre-existing condition.
As many as 82 million Americans with employer-based health plans have a pre-existing condition.

Now they CANNOT be denied insurance that's "How Many"” So in other word you have no close out side of your poor talking points. Let’s pick a year... How many of these “"pre-existing conditions" were not covered in the year 2010?

“What's the debt have to do with The Affordable Care Act?” 1 million sign ups is nowhere near enough to pay for Obamacare, the debt will grow.

“So what you are saying is you will "defend" the Constitution but ONLY for people with like's/dis-like's of legislation of YOUR liking.....Sorry buddy it does not work that way!” What I’m saying is that a BAD law was passed and is BAD for America.

“What does Socialism have to do with you believing the Constitution was written exclusively for the right wing nut job domestic terrorist types?

hint: The Constitution was written for ALL Americans!!!!” Then show us how obamacare benefits ALL Americans under the Constitution. Start with: the “1 MILLION Americans (as of 1/2/2014) now receiving health care” then go to the “105 million Americans no longer have lifetime dollar limits on their coverage.” and “More than 17.6 million children with pre-existing conditions can no longer be denied” neglecting to cite the actual number who were NEVER DENIED COVERAGE! Then explain how congress (because of president obama) is above the law and don’t have to buy into the exchanges.

ALL Americans, right?

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#11462 Jan 8, 2014
Respect71 wrote:
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How many of these “"pre-existing conditions" were not covered in the year 2010?
50 million up to 129 million Americans with pre-existing conditions were denied coverage in 2010
Respect71 wrote:
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What I’m saying is that a BAD law was passed and is BAD for America.
According to WHO? You....?
Respect71 wrote:
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explain how congress (because of president Obama) is above the law and don’t have to buy into the exchanges. ALL Americans, right?
The military retired and active do not have to register for The Affordable Care Act as well they are already covered by that big bad socialist V.A.

What does this "question" have to do with your failure to explain how you defend the Constitution.....(With the exception of Americans that do not agree with you)

Again...The Constitution was written FOR ALL AMERICANS whether you like the LAW or not is beside the FACT!!!

There are many laws I do not like that does not mean people that do like the same laws are some how not protected under the Constitution!

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Centennial, Co

#11463 Jan 8, 2014
Respect71 wrote:
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How many of these “"pre-existing conditions" were not covered in the year 2010?
13 Oct 2010

Half a Million Americans Denied Health Coverage

http://www.cnbc.com/id/39646830

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#11465 Jan 8, 2014
October 14, 2010

Half A Million Americans Denied Health Coverage For “Pre-Existing Conditions”, Like Pregnancy

http://theoldspeakjournal.wordpress.com/2010/...

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#11466 Jan 9, 2014
KarlVIIIII wrote:
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50 million up to 129 million Americans with pre-existing conditions were denied coverage in 2010
<quoted text> According to WHO? You....?
<quoted text>The military retired and active do not have to register for The Affordable Care Act as well they are already covered by that big bad socialist V.A.
What does this "question" have to do with your failure to explain how you defend the Constitution.....(With the exception of Americans that do not agree with you)
Again...The Constitution was written FOR ALL AMERICANS whether you like the LAW or not is beside the FACT!!!
There are many laws I do not like that does not mean people that do like the same laws are some how not protected under the Constitution!
“50 million up to 129 million Americans with pre-existing conditions were denied coverage in 2010” Cite your source.

“According to WHO? You....?” All the americans that now have temporary exemptions to the law, 5 Million who were dropped, the 260 + thousand who’s premiums have and continue to increase, and the poor and middle-class who will now have to pay a tax for obamacare, after the president said he wouldn’t raise taxes to those under $250k.

“The military retired and active do not have to register for The Affordable Care Act as well they are already covered by that big bad socialist V.A.” Thanks for making me case stronger.

“What does this "question" have to do with your failure to explain how you defend the Constitution.....(With the exception of Americans that do not agree with you)

Again...The Constitution was written FOR ALL AMERICANS whether you like the LAW or not is beside the FACT!!!” I stand by your stats... The law was created to force everyone to pay and very few to get any benefit. Another reason why it’s bad law.

“There are many laws I do not like that does not mean people that do like the same laws are some how not protected under the Constitution!” Correct but that’s not what you’re arguing.

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#11467 Jan 9, 2014
KarlVIIIII wrote:
October 14, 2010
Half A Million Americans Denied Health Coverage For “Pre-Existing Conditions”, Like Pregnancy
http://theoldspeakjournal.wordpress.com/2010/...
Do you read these articles you find? Maybe try reading them and grasping a little understanding...

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#11468 Jan 9, 2014
Respect71 wrote:
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All the americans that now have temporary exemptions to the law, 5 Million who were dropped, the 260 + thousand who’s premiums have and continue to increase, and the poor and middle-class who will now have to pay a tax for obamacare, after the president said he wouldn’t raise taxes to those under $250k.
Cite your source
Respect71 wrote:
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Thanks for making me case stronger.
I made the comment in jest....Apparently you took it literally....So please explain...Do you think the V.A.(Veterans Administration) is a Socialist entity?
Respect71 wrote:
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I stand by your stats... The law was created to force everyone to pay and very few to get any benefit. Another reason why it’s bad law.
Again and Again....What does a good Law/Bad Law have to do with you defending the Constitution?

One out of three Americans under 65 were without health insurance in 2007 and 2008

And to my point why should these Americans go uninsured in the wealthiest country in the world? America has a moral responsibility to take care of it's poor and vulnerable regardless of what the Republicans think!

Please tell. What would you and your party do for the uninsured and poor in the wealthiest country on earth?
Respect71 wrote:
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Correct but that’s not what you’re arguing.
Absolutely, that's what YOU'RE attempting to argue!(Very poorly I might add)

And on another point. The Republicans killed or ignored at least 5 bills that would have created jobs in this country last legislative session.....Then discontinued unemployment insurance benefits for millions of Americans with husband's, wife's and CHILDREN and told them to "get a job" What a slap in the American people's face....Then they wonder why their approval rating is 22%

So tell me what do you think these Americans should think of the GOP?

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#11469 Jan 9, 2014
Respect71 wrote:
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Do you read these articles you find? Maybe try reading them and grasping a little understanding...
Yes, It was a bi-partisan look at health insurance in this country. Supporting my point!

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#11470 Jan 10, 2014
Hey Respect71, Do you know what this is?

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

I'll give you a hint....A very LIBERAL preamble...

You notice it is about "we" and "us" and "our" and "general welfare" and "establishment of justice." All fundamentally LIBERAL..

Where as Conservatives are about Individualism totally CONTRARY to the preamble of the Constitution!

Just thought you would like to know the Constitution you so adamantly pretend to "defend" is a VERY LIBERAL document written by OUR Country's LIBERAL founders...

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#11471 Jan 11, 2014
KarlVIIIII wrote:
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“I made the comment in jest....Apparently you took it literally....So please explain...Do you think the V.A.(Veterans Administration) is a Socialist entity?” Yes.

“Again and Again....What does a good Law/Bad Law have to do with you defending the Constitution?” If the Constitution is written for ALL Americans why are our democrat representatives writing laws the force ALL to pay but benefit very few?

“One out of three Americans under 65 were without health insurance in 2007 and 2008” 2013 250,000 Coloradans were dropped from their insurance BECAUSE of obamacare and MILLIONS around our Country... Representatives tried to lie and cover it up. Your number seems meaningless in comparison.

“And to my point why should these Americans go uninsured in the wealthiest country in the world?” 5 million dropped because of obamacare so why don't you ask the question again.

“America has a moral responsibility to take care of it's poor and vulnerable regardless of what the Republicans think! Please tell. What would you and your party do for the uninsured and poor in the wealthiest country on earth?”Charities will do better than federal government... Katrina was a great example of that.

“And on another point. The Republicans killed or ignored at least 5 bills that would have created jobs in this country last legislative session.....Then discontinued unemployment insurance benefits for millions of Americans with husband's, wife's and CHILDREN and told them to "get a job" What a slap in the American people's face....Then they wonder why their approval rating is 22%

So tell me what do you think these Americans should think of the GOP?”

Democrats have the power! They pick and choose their agenda and they know what republicans will try to appose... and all they wanted was OBAMACARE and more spending for failing entitlement programs... Removing freedom for all and allowing to much power for some.

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#11472 Jan 11, 2014
KarlVIIIII wrote:
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Yes, It was a bi-partisan look at health insurance in this country. Supporting my point!
LOL... Not by a long shot... You're clueless.

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#11474 Jan 11, 2014
KarlVIIIII wrote:
Hey Respect71, Do you know what this is?
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
I'll give you a hint....A very LIBERAL preamble...
You notice it is about "we" and "us" and "our" and "general welfare" and "establishment of justice." All fundamentally LIBERAL..
Where as Conservatives are about Individualism totally CONTRARY to the preamble of the Constitution!
Just thought you would like to know the Constitution you so adamantly pretend to "defend" is a VERY LIBERAL document written by OUR Country's LIBERAL founders...
LOL... Please explain what "general welfare"... I'd love to hear!

There is nothing liberating about a 17 trillion dollar debt and stealing from our children, grandchildren and great grandchildren.

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#11475 Jan 11, 2014
KarlVIIIII wrote:
Hey Respect71, Do you know what this is?
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
I'll give you a hint....A very LIBERAL preamble...
You notice it is about "we" and "us" and "our" and "general welfare" and "establishment of justice." All fundamentally LIBERAL..
Where as Conservatives are about Individualism totally CONTRARY to the preamble of the Constitution!
Just thought you would like to know the Constitution you so adamantly pretend to "defend" is a VERY LIBERAL document written by OUR Country's LIBERAL founders...
Your "LIBERAL" leaders are a very far cry from our founders...

http://www.denverpost.com/politics/ci_2488097...
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#11476 Jan 12, 2014
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>“I made the comment in jest....Apparently you took it literally....So please explain...Do you think the V.A.(Veterans Administration) is a Socialist entity?” Yes.

“Again and Again....What does a good Law/Bad Law have to do with you defending the Constitution?” If the Constitution is written for ALL Americans why are our democrat representatives writing laws the force ALL to pay but benefit very few?

“One out of three Americans under 65 were without health insurance in 2007 and 2008” 2013 250,000 Coloradans were dropped from their insurance BECAUSE of obamacare and MILLIONS around our Country... Representatives tried to lie and cover it up. Your number seems meaningless in comparison.

“And to my point why should these Americans go uninsured in the wealthiest country in the world?” 5 million dropped because of obamacare so why don't you ask the question again.

“America has a moral responsibility to take care of it's poor and vulnerable regardless of what the Republicans think! Please tell. What would you and your party do for the uninsured and poor in the wealthiest country on earth?”Charities will do better than federal government... Katrina was a great example of that.

“And on another point. The Republicans killed or ignored at least 5 bills that would have created jobs in this country last legislative session.....Then discontinued unemployment insurance benefits for millions of Americans with husband's, wife's and CHILDREN and told them to "get a job" What a slap in the American people's face....Then they wonder why their approval rating is 22%

So tell me what do you think these Americans should think of the GOP?”

Democrats have the power! They pick and choose their agenda and they know what republicans will try to appose... and all they wanted was OBAMACARE and more spending for failing entitlement programs... Removing freedom for all and allowing to much power for some.
Democrats have the power? The Republicans filibustered more than anyone else had in the history of the USA. Nice try.

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#11477 Jan 12, 2014
guest wrote:
<quoted text>Democrats have the power? The Republicans filibustered more than anyone else had in the history of the USA. Nice try.
It's because they have the power that the republicans filibustered. Take a civics class.
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#11478 Jan 12, 2014
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>It's because they have the power that the republicans filibustered. Take a civics class.
They only have the power IF they have a Super Majority.

You take your own advice.

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#11479 Jan 12, 2014
guest wrote:
<quoted text>They only have the power IF they have a Super Majority.

You take your own advice.
They did! Thus, OBAMACARE. Now they have held on to the White House and the Senate. So you are claiming the republicans have the power? Then explain the new budget deal? Explain how the republicans are all powerful and then explain how moral it is to continue raise our national debt, effectively stealing from our children, grandchildren and great grandchildren?
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#11480 Jan 12, 2014
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>They did! Thus, OBAMACARE. Now they have held on to the White House and the Senate. So you are claiming the republicans have the power? Then explain the new budget deal? Explain how the republicans are all powerful and then explain how moral it is to continue raise our national debt, effectively stealing from our children, grandchildren and great grandchildren?
They don't have the Super Majority now. They only had that the first 2 years of Obama's term.
No one complained when the Republicans raised the debt under their 6 years of total control of the House and Senate while Bush was in office.

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