Republicans the party of LIARS
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#11207 Dec 15, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>Thank you for posting information that is proving my point further...

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142...

Please post another!
"The IRS does not require a 501(c)(4) organization to wait for official recognition of its exempt status from the IRS before it can get to work. In fact, organizations need not file an application at all — though, organizations that do not file applications may be required to later complete a questionnaire."

That made my point clear. I guess you don't understand what you are reading.

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#11208 Dec 15, 2013
guest wrote:
<quoted text>
"The IRS does not require a 501(c)(4) organization to wait for official recognition of its exempt status from the IRS before it can get to work. In fact, organizations need not file an application at all — though, organizations that do not file applications may be required to later complete a questionnaire."
That made my point clear. I guess you don't understand what you are reading.
Did you read what I posted? Did you even read what you posted?

Your post provided this list which supports the articles I posted:
public recognition of exempt status (which can be helpful for fundraising purposes),
eligibility for nonprofit mailing privileges,
exemption from certain state level taxes,
the peace of mind factor giving the organization the assurance that it qualifies for exemption and wont be required to pay back taxes if the IRS later decides it doesnt qualify for exemption.

Do you deny these facts? Because 3 years to wait for approval and not only that the fact they were approved after the election is damning... Now post something else that shows the groups could have done what they wanted without the status or you can just concede.

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#11209 Dec 15, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you for posting information that is proving my point further...
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142...
Please post another!
Aren't Wall Street Journal and Fox News, both owned by the Australian, Rupert Murdoch? Kinda hurt's their validity and honesty, does'nt it?

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#11210 Dec 15, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>Aren't Wall Street Journal and Fox News, both owned by the Australian, Rupert Murdoch? Kinda hurt's their validity and honesty, does'nt it?
Read the first post.
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#11211 Dec 15, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>Did you read what I posted? Did you even read what you posted?

Your post provided this list which supports the articles I posted:
public recognition of exempt status (which can be helpful for fundraising purposes),
eligibility for nonprofit mailing privileges,
exemption from certain state level taxes,
the “peace of mind” factor – giving the organization the assurance that it qualifies for exemption and won’t be required to pay back taxes if the IRS later decides it doesn’t qualify for exemption.

Do you deny these facts? Because 3 years to wait for approval and not only that the fact they were approved after the election is damning... Now post something else that shows the groups could have done what they wanted without the status or you can just concede.
You posted an opinion piece and expect it to be accepted as fact.

Even the IRS backs up my point.
Hear it from them by calling 1-877-829-5500

All of this information is available on the IRS website, even form 8871 that political groups wanting tax exempt status must fill out.

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#11212 Dec 15, 2013
guest wrote:
<quoted text>You posted an opinion piece and expect it to be accepted as fact.

Even the IRS backs up my point.
Hear it from them by calling 1-877-829-5500

All of this information is available on the IRS website, even form 8871 that political groups wanting tax exempt status must fill out.
It was a study... Not opinion. The numbers are recorded, if you're going to deny fact, and post nothing else then concede.

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#11214 Dec 16, 2013
guest wrote:
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Says Opinion right at the top of the page in your link. The rules for those groups on the IRS site should be enough proof for anyone with half a brain. That doesn't say much about you though.
In my first post it was an aticle about:a new research paper, Andreas Madestam (from Stockholm University), Daniel Shoag and David Yanagizawa-Drott (both from the Harvard Kennedy School), and I set out to find out how much impact the Tea Party had on voter turnout in the 2010 election.
Did you read it?

READ THE STUDY that provides FACTS:
http://www.aei.org/files/2012/12/18/-veuger-t...

Did you read your posted BLOG? The very 1st point of advantage is disable because of status.

So either you are very ignorant or you just support your side using the IRS to help give your side a political advantage.

Hearings continue over this matter.
guest

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#11215 Dec 16, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>In my first post it was an aticle about:“a new research paper, Andreas Madestam (from Stockholm University), Daniel Shoag and David Yanagizawa-Drott (both from the Harvard Kennedy School), and I set out to find out how much impact the Tea Party had on voter turnout in the 2010 election.”
Did you read it?

READ THE STUDY that provides FACTS:
http://www.aei.org/files/2012/12/18/-veuger-t...

Did you read your posted BLOG? The very 1st point of advantage is disable because of status.

So either you are very ignorant or you just support your side using the IRS to help give your side a political advantage.

Hearings continue over this matter.
According to the forms for filing for tax free status you can continue to operate until the application is processed. You act like I'm making this up but I gave you the links and form numbers so you could go check for yourself yet all you seem to want to do is ignore anything that doesn't fit your agenda.
Yes, money is being wasted by Issa and nothing will come from it. Not one conservative group was denied tax free status. Do you think the IRS should rubber stamp approval on everyone that applies for tax free status or should they do their job and verify applicants?
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#11216 Dec 16, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>Thank you for posting information that is proving my point further...

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142...

Please post another!
Looks like an opinion piece to me.

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#11217 Dec 16, 2013
guest wrote:
<quoted text>
Looks like an opinion piece to me.
On a website owned by Rupert Murdoch.....nothing fishy about that....lol....

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#11218 Dec 16, 2013
guest wrote:
<quoted text>
According to the forms for filing for tax free status you can continue to operate until the application is processed. You act like I'm making this up but I gave you the links and form numbers so you could go check for yourself yet all you seem to want to do is ignore anything that doesn't fit your agenda.
Yes, money is being wasted by Issa and nothing will come from it. Not one conservative group was denied tax free status. Do you think the IRS should rubber stamp approval on everyone that applies for tax free status or should they do their job and verify applicants?
I see what youre doing... How did I miss this?
The question is not if tax free status you can continue to operate until the application is processed. which took three years plus in most cases, the issue is did it effect tea part organizations adversely or negatively... The answer base on what I posted to you and you refuse to read is yes.

So either you are very ignorant or you just support your side using the IRS to help give your side a political advantage.

Hearings continue over this matter.

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#11219 Dec 16, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text> On a website owned by Rupert Murdoch.....nothing fishy about that....lol....
You dont read anything I post do you... Lick on the following:

http://www.aei.org/files/2012/12/18/-veuger-t...

AEI is officially nonpartisan and its website includes a statement on political advocacy. NOT OWNED BY Rupert Murdoch. But good to know you lie like the rest of your party.

At least youre all being consistent.
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#11220 Dec 16, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>I see what you’re doing... How did I miss this?
The question is not if “tax free status you can continue to operate until the application is processed.”
That has been my whole point from the beginning. Go back and re-read my postings in our discussions in this thread.
No one stopped those groups from operating while waiting for their tax free approval from the IRS. They could continue to operate AS tax free groups while waiting approval. No one stopped them from doing anything unless they chose to do so on their own.

You missed this because if your poor debating skills and your narrow minded views. Sometimes you need to be a little more open minded to see the big picture.
So do you now agree that groups awaiting tax free status approval could continue to operate as tax free until their application was approved?

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#11221 Dec 16, 2013
guest wrote:
<quoted text>That has been my whole point from the beginning. Go back and re-read my postings in our discussions in this thread.
No one stopped those groups from operating while waiting for their tax free approval from the IRS. They could continue to operate AS tax free groups while waiting approval. No one stopped them from doing anything unless they chose to do so on their own.

You missed this because if your poor debating skills and your narrow minded views. Sometimes you need to be a little more open minded to see the big picture.
So do you now agree that groups awaiting tax free status approval could continue to operate as tax free until their application was approved?
The question is not if “tax free status you can continue to operate until the application is processed.” which took three years plus in most cases, the issue is did it effect tea part organizations adversely or negatively... The answer base on what I posted to you and you refuse to read is yes.

So either you are very ignorant or you just support your side using the IRS to help give your side a political advantage.

Hearings continue over this matter.
GodsHound

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#11223 Dec 16, 2013
Atyheist Ayn Rand Worshipping Republicans......

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GodsHound

Savannah, GA

#11224 Dec 16, 2013
Atheist Ayn Rand , that is...............
GodsHound

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#11226 Dec 16, 2013
The Republican Tea Party Movie, "Atlas Shrugged," Based on the Fiction Novel and Republican Tea Party Bible, written by Ayn Rand.

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GodsHound

Savannah, GA

#11227 Dec 16, 2013
Atheist Murray Rothbard, a Founder of the Republican Libertarian Party was a Friend of the Republican Tea Party Messiah, Ayn Rand for a time in New York City.

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GodsHound

Savannah, GA

#11229 Dec 16, 2013
Republican Heroes, Ayn Rand and Murray Rothbard argued heatedly for Abortion on Demand for any reason.

WHY do Republicans LIE and claim to be against Abortion on Demand??
I suspect the GOP Lies in a Cynical Ploy to get Votes from the Church Crowd.

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“Gloria Ad Caput Venire”

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#11230 Dec 17, 2013
interesting perspective......seems to be playing out as I speak.

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