“No Tea for Me”

Since: Nov 13

Centennial, Co

#10990 Nov 27, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
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And do you get your spun info from Ed Schultz? Thought so...
I do not get "spun" from anywhere!
Respect71 wrote:
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Obviously there are people like yourself who believe Benghazi was about a youtube video and not a planned Al Qaeda attack. Sad really.
I never said anything of the like! Do not attempt to paint a picture if you are not an artist it just does not look good!
Respect71 wrote:
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the IRS hindered that election didn’t they… 4% is by no stretch a landslide.
Here's a PERFECT example of your right wing domestic terrorist conspiracy theory CRAPOLA! Furthermore I have never calimed President Obama won "by a landslide" I said HE WON!!! Your side and pseudo news channel said Romeny would win by a landslide AGAIN get your facts straight!!!
Respect71 wrote:
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You are lying
Just because you do not LIKE the FACT does not make it a "lie"....You really need to turn off FoxNoise you are beginning to sound like Hannity with his head stuck up his AZZ!!!

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#10991 Nov 27, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
"bring back the full employment bush had"?....Are you Retarded?.....
I have a feeling you may be. Bush had almost 8 full years of full employment and Obama has not. You do understand this, correct?
Driller

United States

#10992 Nov 27, 2013
"Welcome to Colorado, Land of Left Loons"

“If you can't beat um join um”

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Under the troll bridge

#10993 Nov 27, 2013
KarlVIIIII wrote:
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have a short memory (most likely because your head is too full of conspiracy theories and the like. I'm semi-retired and purchase my insurance on the open market I have Kaiser and YES my premium went DOWN and I receive MORE benefits!!! So sorry you do not like FACTS unless they support your radical agenda!
Sigh.....Karl,
How was your trip?
I actually thought of you and your catastrophic policy as I was wading through all the Obamacare crap I have to deal with here at work. Remember I handle the benefits for all of our stores.
Apparently your renewal was not too recent or you would have seen a rate increase. We offer Kaiser here and did not see a rate increase for 2013 either. It's your first renewal in 2014, whatever month that falls in, that will make you sit up and pay attention. Catastrophic plans with high deductibles will only be sold to people under 30 years of age. Doesn't make sense to me. That's the age group least likely to be able to come up with a large sum of money to cover a big deductible.
One of the plans I offer here has a large deductible and once the employer mandate kicks in we won't be permitted to offer that plan because it's outside the Obamacare constraints. I'm glad they put it off until our 2015 renewal because it's going to cost me a lot more for hubby with the policies we will be able to offer. Obamacare tells the employer what he has to contribute to the employees cost to call it affordable but if he/she has a family they will be paying a LOT more money for the lower deductible "affordable" insurance even if the rates stay the same, which they won't.
Kaiser over sold for a couple of years and had too large of a surplus. Did you notice you had to wait a lot longer for an appointment? Insurance companies are heavily regulated here and although they were hoping to use the surplus to offset increased costs once Obamacare kicked in they were forced to reduce the surplus by giving us lower rates before the mandate kicked in instead of after. That was good for you and I in the sort term. Not so good later. This screwed up their underwriting so much they just threw their hands up and gave up on the small group portion of their offerings. Anyone who has a small group policy with Kaiser will lose it. Even if they offer something else their people will still have to change doctors or sign up for the more expensive individual policies through Kaiser.
Before you throw out more propaganda you might want to go to the Connect for Health website and see what your choices and prices will be next year when you can't have the policy you have now. The Colorado website works much better than the Federal website and they don't make you give ALL your personal info like the federal one does just to see the prices. See what you can get from Kaiser in 2014 and be prepared for a bad case of sticker shock. I've had employees trooping in here for a month asking questions and telling stories about prices at the spouses companies and I have a relative who's catastrophic policy renewed in December. IT DOUBLED in price and she will have to choose an even more expensive plan next year because her plan has too big of a deductible for anyone over 30 years old.
Can you imagine how the 2014 elections would have gone if they hadn't delayed the employer mandate? 90% of the people are insured at work and they would all be upset about how unaffordable this "Affordable" Care Act is.
I also noticed they moved the open enrollment for the exchange to November 15th for 2014 instead of October 1 like this year. That way nobody can see the prices until after the election. It's too bad they feel the need to hide what they've done to win and election isn't it? Perhaps it would be better to fix it so they don't have to be ashamed and hide it since it's obviously not working. The young healthy people aren't signing up. It's going to go bankrupt.

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#10994 Nov 28, 2013
KarlVIIIII wrote:
<quoted text> I do not get "spun" from anywhere!
<quoted text> I never said anything of the like! Do not attempt to paint a picture if you are not an artist it just does not look good!
<quoted text> Here's a PERFECT example of your right wing domestic terrorist conspiracy theory CRAPOLA! Furthermore I have never calimed President Obama won "by a landslide" I said HE WON!!! Your side and pseudo news channel said Romeny would win by a landslide AGAIN get your facts straight!!!
<quoted text> Just because you do not LIKE the FACT does not make it a "lie"....You really need to turn off FoxNoise you are beginning to sound like Hannity with his head stuck up his AZZ!!!
“I do not get "spun" from anywhere!” You get your SPUN INFO from Ed Shultz, Allen Colmes, and Leslie Marshal. Otherwise why would you say (in most cases, verbatim) what they said in the same day?

“I never said anything of the like! Do not attempt to paint a picture if you are not an artist it just does not look good!”… So you believe 9-11 was because of a youtube video.

“Here's a PERFECT example of your right wing domestic terrorist conspiracy theory CRAPOLA!” These are facts little guy, the IRS targeted and disabled funding for tea party and conservative groups, and hearings are continue.

“Furthermore I have never calimed President Obama won "by a landslide" I said HE WON!!! Your side and pseudo news channel said Romeny would win by a landslide AGAIN get your facts straight!!!” I was stating facts, which you have yet to caim.

“Just because you do not LIKE the FACT does not make it a "lie"....You really need to turn off FoxNoise you are beginning to sound like Hannity with his head stuck up his AZZ!!!” Degrading me doesn’t change the fact that insurance rates have consistently gone up and you are the only one who CLAIMS his has gone down for more benefits… Which makes you a liar or a government employee?

All that aside… Have a great Thanksgiving! I pray you and your family enjoy God’s blessings.

“No Tea for Me”

Since: Nov 13

Centennial, Co

#10995 Nov 28, 2013
The Troll Doll wrote:
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Sigh.....Karl,
How was your trip?
I actually thought of you and your catastrophic policy as I was wading through all the Obamacare crap I have to deal with here at work. Remember I handle the benefits for all of our stores.
Apparently your renewal was not too recent or you would have seen a rate increase. We offer Kaiser here and did not see a rate increase for 2013 either. It's your first renewal in 2014, whatever month that falls in, that will make you sit up and pay attention. Catastrophic plans with high deductibles will only be sold to people under 30 years of age. Doesn't make sense to me. That's the age group least likely to be able to come up with a large sum of money to cover a big deductible.
One of the plans I offer here has a large deductible and once the employer mandate kicks in we won't be permitted to offer that plan because it's outside the Obamacare constraints. I'm glad they put it off until our 2015 renewal because it's going to cost me a lot more for hubby with the policies we will be able to offer. Obamacare tells the employer what he has to contribute to the employees cost to call it affordable but if he/she has a family they will be paying a LOT more money for the lower deductible "affordable" insurance even if the rates stay the same, which they won't.
Kaiser over sold for a couple of years and had too large of a surplus. Did you notice you had to wait a lot longer for an appointment? Insurance companies are heavily regulated here and although they were hoping to use the surplus to offset increased costs once Obamacare kicked in they were forced to reduce the surplus by giving us lower rates before the mandate kicked in instead of after. That was good for you and I in the sort term. Not so good later. This screwed up their underwriting so much they just threw their hands up and gave up on the small group portion of their offerings. Anyone who has a small group policy with Kaiser will lose it. Even if they offer something else their people will still have to change doctors or sign up for the more expensive individual policies through Kaiser.
Before you throw out more propaganda you might want to go to the Connect for Health website and see what your choices and prices will be next year when you can't have the policy you have now. The Colorado website works much better than the Federal website and they don't make you give ALL your personal info like the federal one does just to see the prices. See what you can get from Kaiser in 2014 and be prepared for a bad case of sticker shock. I've had employees trooping in here for a month asking questions and telling stories about prices at the spouses companies and I have a relative who's catastrophic policy renewed in December. IT DOUBLED in price and she will have to choose an even more expensive plan next year because her plan has too big of a deductible for anyone over 30 years old.
Can you imagine how the 2014 elections would have gone if they hadn't delayed the employer mandate? 90% of the people are insured at work and they would all be upset about how unaffordable this "Affordable" Care Act is.
(Cropped for space) my apologies.

Hi Troll...How ya' been?

People are looking at the price of Insurance on the open Market before the subsidiaries available from the Federal Government. For example before Subsidies the average plan for a 64 year old man is $545 which is a 17% increase over the $465 average before the ACA. But after you add in the $168 dollar subsidy available the price is $377 which is a 19% decrease for the same or better policy.
I have taken many trips since last posting and they have all been very nice in their own way, Thanks.

“No Tea for Me”

Since: Nov 13

Centennial, Co

#10996 Nov 28, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
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You get your SPUN INFO from Ed Shultz, Allen Colmes, and Leslie Marshal. Otherwise why would you say (in most cases, verbatim) what they said in the same day?
So sorry to inform you, I Do not listen)watch any of those people!
Respect71 wrote:
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So you believe 9-11 was because of a youtube video.
I have never said that, and furthermore I "Believe" in Jesus Christ Politics is not a religion!
Respect71 wrote:
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These are facts little guy, the IRS targeted and disabled funding for tea party and conservative groups, and hearings are continue..
Whats with the condescending innuendo? Little Guy... The same IRS has targeted and denied tax exemption to Liberal political groups as well...Your point is bogus!
Respect71 wrote:
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I was stating facts, which you have yet to caim.
Just a bit of advice Lay off the booze you are beginning to be incoherent!
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>
Degrading me doesn’t change the fact that insurance rates have consistently gone up and you are the only one who CLAIMS his has gone down for more benefits… Which makes you a liar or a government employee?
I haven't "Degraded" you, I have pointed out the obvious! Read what I posted to "Troll Doll" FoxNoise and Right Wing Radicals only tell half the story to fit their narrow agenda....Typical!
Respect71 wrote:
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All that aside… Have a great Thanksgiving! I pray you and your family enjoy God’s blessings.
You and Your's as well

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#10997 Nov 29, 2013
KarlVIIIII wrote:
<quoted text> So sorry to inform you, I Do not listen)watch any of those people!
<quoted text> I have never said that, and furthermore I "Believe" in Jesus Christ Politics is not a religion!
<quoted text> Whats with the condescending innuendo? Little Guy... The same IRS has targeted and denied tax exemption to Liberal political groups as well...Your point is bogus!
<quoted text> Just a bit of advice Lay off the booze you are beginning to be incoherent!
<quoted text> I haven't "Degraded" you, I have pointed out the obvious! Read what I posted to "Troll Doll" FoxNoise and Right Wing Radicals only tell half the story to fit their narrow agenda....Typical!
<quoted text> You and Your's as well
“So sorry to inform you, I Do not listen)watch any of those people!” Well you don’t get your ideas on your own… You get your info from somewhere..

“I have never said that, and furthermore I "Believe" in Jesus Christ Politics is not a religion!” Right?! So if you don’t believe that Benghazi was caused by a youtube video then you understand you were lied to by this administration, right?


“Whats with the condescending innuendo? Little Guy...” It is what it is…

“The same IRS has targeted and denied tax exemption to Liberal political groups as well...” Really based on what?

“Your point is bogus!” Then why the congressional hearings? Why did the director of the IRS plea the 5th and then resign? My point extremely valid and absolute fact…

“Just a bit of advice Lay off the booze you are beginning to be incoherent!” LOL… OR is you’re your reading comprehension?

Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>
Degrading me doesn’t change the fact that insurance rates have consistently gone up and you are the only one who CLAIMS his has gone down for more benefits… Which makes you a liar or a government employee?
“I haven't "Degraded" you,” Then what is the intent of your “your right wing domestic terrorist conspiracy theory” statement? Build me up and revere my opinion? The facts are what they are no matter how you dodge them. Do you support the administration with their NSA actions against Americans and allies or not?

“I have pointed out the obvious! Read what I posted to "Troll Doll" FoxNoise and Right Wing Radicals only tell half the story to fit their narrow agenda....Typical!” Are you referring to; “People are looking at the price of Insurance on the open Market before the subsidiaries available from the Federal Government. For example before Subsidies the average plan for a 64 year old man is $545 which is a 17% increase over the $465 average before the ACA. But after you add in the $168 dollar subsidy available the price is $377 which is a 19% decrease for the same or better policy.”?

“No Tea for Me”

Since: Nov 13

Centennial, Co

#10998 Nov 29, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>
You get your info from somewhere..
Of course I get my information from "somewhere" And it is NOT FoxNoise or MSNBC both pander to their perspective side. BUT FoxNoise LIES has been proven to lie to viewers even paid MILLIONS to defend their right to LIE and call it news!
Respect71 wrote:
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So if you don’t believe that Benghazi was caused by a youtube video then you understand you were lied to by this administration, right?
Again and Again, I have never said I think the tragedy in Benghazi was caused by a "video". I think the attack was a planned attack and the slashing of embassy security spending by the Republicans was the cause. As for the administrations response they should have waited until they had all the facts instead of trying to appease the right wing radical conspiracy theorists.
Respect71 wrote:
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It is what it is…
Not worthy a response!
Respect71 wrote:
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My point extremely valid and absolute fact…
Fact, Tea Party groups made up just one-third of the tax exemption applications that got extra review, while two-thirds of the organizations reviewed were not identified by name. http://thegrio.com/2013/05/15/democratic-libe...
Respect71 wrote:
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Then what is the intent of your “your right wing domestic terrorist conspiracy theory” statement?
Again and Again...Pointing out the obvious.
Respect71 wrote:
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Do you support the administration with their NSA actions against Americans and allies or not?
YES, We are the United States of America and NEED to keep tabs on EVERYONE especially people like YOU with all your anti America rants! and EVERY Country and Leaders that may pose a danger of ANY kind! We have been spying one way or another since the beginning of this nation. Technology had offered more options.
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you referring to; “People are looking at the price of Insurance on the open Market before the subsidiaries available from the Federal Government. For example before Subsidies the average plan for a 64 year old man is $545 which is a 17% increase over the $465 average before the ACA. But after you add in the $168 dollar subsidy available the price is $377 which is a 19% decrease for the same or better policy.”?
Yes

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#10999 Nov 29, 2013
KarlVIIIII wrote:
<quoted text> Of course I get my information from "somewhere" And it is NOT FoxNoise or MSNBC both pander to their perspective side. BUT FoxNoise LIES has been proven to lie to viewers even paid MILLIONS to defend their right to LIE and call it news!got extra review, while two-thirds of the organizations reviewed were not identified by name. http://thegrio.com/2013/05/15/democratic-libe...
<quoted text> Again and Again...Pointing out the obvious.
<quoted text> YES, We are the United States of America and NEED to keep tabs on EVERYONE especially people like YOU with all your anti America rants! and EVERY Country and Leaders that may pose a danger of ANY kind! We have been spying one way or another since the beginning of this nation. Technology had offered more options.
<quoted text>Yes
“Of course I get my information from "somewhere" And it is NOT FoxNoise or MSNBC both pander to their perspective side. BUT FoxNoise LIES has been proven to lie to viewers even paid MILLIONS to defend their right to LIE and call it news!” Cite your source then.

“Again and Again, I have never said I think the tragedy in Benghazi was caused by a "video". I think the attack was a planned attack and the slashing of embassy security spending by the Republicans was the cause. As for the administrations response they should have waited until they had all the facts instead of trying to appease the right wing radical conspiracy theorists.” LOL… What?! Cite your source… There is ZERO evidence of “a planned attack and the slashing of embassy security spending by the Republicans was the cause.” It’s an absolute fact the US Government, this administration, lied to the American people. Your assertions have no basis.

“Not worthy a response!“ Because you say so? Who are you to understand what is worthy or not?

“Fact, Tea Party groups made up just one-third of the tax exemption applications that got extra review, while two-thirds of the organizations reviewed were not identified by name. http://thegrio.com/2013/05/15/democratic-libe ...” Funny… In this post you stated,“Of course I get my information from "somewhere" And it is NOT FoxNoise or MSNBC” and you post directly from an msnbc source… Very interesting. Falling into more lies.

“Again and Again...Pointing out the obvious.” What’s obvious is you have no understanding of the government process we have and is specifically designed for gridlock because we are a Constitutional republic. Your party is just as responsible for it as the republicans and in fact more so because of their refusal to compromise. Obvious facts.

“YES, We are the United States of America and NEED to keep tabs on EVERYONE especially people like YOU with all your anti America rants! and EVERY Country and Leaders that may pose a danger of ANY kind!” Like Germany right?
“We have been spying one way or another since the beginning of this nation. Technology had offered more options.” And because you support the NSA’s illegal actios makes you un-American by blatantly ignoring the Constitution of the United States.

“People are looking at the price of Insurance on the open Market before the subsidiaries available from the Federal Government. For example before Subsidies the average plan for a 64 year old man is $545 which is a 17% increase over the $465 average before the ACA. But after you add in the $168 dollar subsidy available the price is $377 which is a 19% decrease for the same or better policy.”? Yes” http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/11/...
She’s not the only one. Hundreds of thousands of people who were dropped by insurance in Colorado are finding the Affordable Care Act is by no means Affordable.

“No Tea for Me”

Since: Nov 13

Centennial, Co

#11000 Nov 29, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
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Cite your source then.
When a source is needed to validate a point I gladly post one.
Respect71 wrote:
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LOL… What?! Cite your source… There is ZERO evidence of “a planned attack and the slashing of embassy security spending by the Republicans was the cause.”
HOUSE REPUBLICANS CUT EMBASSY SECURITY FUNDING BY $331 MILLION BEFORE THE BENGHAZI ATTACK. http://www.reuters.com Benghazi Was Planned, Sophisticated Attack. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/1...
Respect71 wrote:
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Funny… In this post you stated,“Of course I get my information from "somewhere" And it is NOT FoxNoise or MSNBC” and you post directly from an msnbc source… Very interesting.
So you cannot dispute the Facts you attack the source Typical Right Wing Domestic Terrorist response...You must study Karl Rove FAILED tactics....HA
Respect71 wrote:
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What’s obvious is you have no understanding of the government process we have and is specifically designed for gridlock because we are a Constitutional republic.
I have a perfectly CLEAR understanding of how our Government works and have no problem with it. With the exception of the Filibuster rule that has been used by the Republicans more during the Obama administration than EVER before in history...And do not claim it is because of Obama's "Socialistic" Ideas They used it to block Their OWN Ideas. This is NOT how our country and the Constitution were intended to operate! THE RIGHT WING DOMESTIC TERRORIST MUST GO...
Respect71 wrote:
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Like Germany right?
Correct...Keep your friends close and your enemy's closer! We need to spy on EVERY Country leader and ESPECIALLY Crazed Radical Dangerous Domestic Terrorists LIKE YOU!
Respect71 wrote:
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And because you support the NSA’s illegal actios makes you un-American by blatantly ignoring the Constitution of the United States.
WRONG...Nowhere in the Bill of Rights and or the Constitution is anyone guaranteed a right to privacy!
Respect71 wrote:
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She’s not the only one. Hundreds of thousands of people who were dropped by insurance in Colorado are finding the Affordable Care Act is by no means Affordable.
Affordable for whom? If you want a Cadillac you cannot have a Volkswagen budget!
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#11002 Nov 30, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
Republicans are constantly proving the validity of this thread title.....they should really start leaving the rest alone, and just lie to eachother.....
I provided citations to prove how the Fed is inflating your investment portfolio by pouring money into the markets. If you believe something I've written is untrue, why not cite it so we can discuss?

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#11003 Nov 30, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>I provided citations to prove how the Fed is inflating your investment portfolio by pouring money into the markets. If you believe something I've written is untrue, why not cite it so we can discuss?
Yet, you neglected to answer my question?....Explain how the fed is pouring money into the markets?...

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#11004 Nov 30, 2013
Quantitative Easing is the program that explains how the Federal Reserve is pouring money into the markets. Try reading a newstory.

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#11005 Nov 30, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text> Yet, you neglected to answer my question?....Explain how the fed is pouring money into the markets?...
S Reed

Littleton, CO

#11006 Nov 30, 2013
Thank all of you for speaking up. Many years ago I was a republican. I have watched them lie and cheet the American people. They now only represent the very wealthy and corporations that can only rape and pillage the Americans at every turn.

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#11007 Dec 1, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Quantitative Easing is the program that explains how the Federal Reserve is pouring money into the markets. Try reading a newstory.
You haven't a clue, as to what your are saying.....at least admit it? Also, you haven't a clue, as to how many Dollars, our Treasury's Mints normally print monthly?.....

“The (R)ich Party Lies!”

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#11008 Dec 1, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
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AND now we know the IRS hindered that election didn’t they…
The groups were free to operate while waiting for their tax free status applications to be processed. The IRS didn't stop any group from doing anything.

You are just another frightwinger spreading the propaganda. Your commie friends are proud of you.

“The (R)ich Party Lies!”

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#11009 Dec 1, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
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I have a feeling you may be. Bush had almost 8 full years of full employment and Obama has not. You do understand this, correct?
No President has ever had full employment in his term of office.

Why do you lie?

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