Republicans the party of LIARS

Level 6

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#10650 May 20, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
If Bush's IRS had leaked confidential taxpayer information and harassed liberals, we'd have headlines for months.
The IRS will be applying the OBAMACARE mandate 2014. God help us.

Judged:

13

13

13

Reply »
Report Abuse Judge it!

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Level 10

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#10651 May 20, 2013
If you don't like the IRS leaking confidential tax information to their friends in the media, you'll hate it when they leak your medical records.

If you believe in doctor/patient confidentiality, repeal Obamacare.

Judged:

13

13

13

Reply »
Report Abuse Judge it!
The Infantile left Winged

Chico, CA

#10652 May 20, 2013
Obama and the IRS: The Smoking Gun?

National Treasury Employees Union President Colleen Kelley on the relationship between the anti-Tea Party IRS union and the Obama White House
Is President Obama directly implicated in the IRS scandal?
Is the White House Visitors Log the trail to the smoking gun?
The stunning questions are raised by the following set of new facts.
http://spectator.org/archives/2013/05/20/obam...

Judged:

13

13

13

Reply »
Report Abuse Judge it!

Level 6

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#10653 May 20, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
If you don't like the IRS leaking confidential tax information to their friends in the media, you'll hate it when they leak your medical records.
If you believe in doctor/patient confidentiality, repeal Obamacare.
Then they will conveniently forgot who when asked directly.

Americans deserve better.

Judged:

13

13

13

Reply »
Report Abuse Judge it!

Level 6

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#10654 May 27, 2013
Happy Memorial Day! We are remembering our brave Americans and their families who sacrificed so much to allow us freedom in the greatest Country in the world. God bless you all and God bless America!

Judged:

13

13

13

Reply »
Report Abuse Judge it!

“Invisible Pink Unicorn”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#10655 May 29, 2013
Study: Republicans are “the less credible party”

Many politicians stretch the truth or obfuscate to some degree or another — but does one party do it more than the other? According to a new study from the Center for Media and Public Affairs at George Mason University the answer is an unequivocal yes. Parsing 100 statements evaluated by the fact-checking website PolitiFact between Obama’s second inauguration and this month, the researchers found that claims from Republican officials were labeled as “false” or “pants on fire” by a 3-to-1 margin, compared to claims from Democratic officials. Conversely, half as many Republican claims were labeled “entirely true.”

“While Republicans see a credibility gap in the Obama administration, PolitiFact rates Republicans as the less credible party,” said CMPA president Robert Lichter in a press release. An earlier study from the CMPA found the website rated the Romney campaign worse than the Obama campaign during the 2012 election. Not surprisingly, Michele Bachmann is one of the most poorly rated politicians on PolitiFact.

Undoubtably, Republicans would blame this on “bias,” accusing the fact checkers of operating as little more than Democratic Party shills.“We’re not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers,” Romney pollster Neil Newhouse famously declared last summer after the campaign got whacked for running nakedly false ads.

http://www.salon.com/2013/05/28/study_republi...

Level 7

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#10656 May 29, 2013
Fascinating also to see Bob Dole speaking out about this mutant version of the GOP...Actually suggesting that they close for repairs...and that Ronald Reagan would'nt recognize or feel comfortable, with these republicans.....Wonder what effect, Fox has had on the honesty and manufactured outrage associated with the far right....

“The (R)ich Party Lies!”

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#10657 May 29, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>
Then they will conveniently forgot who when asked directly.
Americans deserve better.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1990-02-23...

"Reagan said ``I don`t recall`` or ``I can`t remember`` 88 times in the eight hours of testimony taken Feb. 16-17 in Los Angeles."

Worked for Reagan..lol.

Level 6

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#10659 May 29, 2013
District9 wrote:
<quoted text>
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1990-02-23...
"Reagan said ``I don`t recall`` or ``I can`t remember`` 88 times in the eight hours of testimony taken Feb. 16-17 in Los Angeles."
Worked for Reagan..lol.
You’re kidding right? Ronald Reagan was 79 years old and what was Reagan suffering from? Alzheimer’s… So whether you like it or not, he very well may have NOT recalled or remembered much of anything at that point… Plus the evidence that was found in investigation didn’t show he had knowledge of the transactions, however, was deeply criticized and should have known.

Regardless, Benghazi, the IRS, and the AP scandals are substantial and the American public deserve answers. Our president had clear intelligence on where Osama Bin Laden was, was able to put him down, and now you choose to believe he believed the attack in Benghazi was a protest about a Youtube video? He’s the smartest president we have had so far yet he reads about the IRS targeting in the paper like the rest of us? Looking at the few facts in these cases it is illogical to even think about that conclusion.

Obamacare is coming are you ready for the IRS to dig into your insurance and medical history to see if you need to be taxed or not, especially after targeting political and religious groups?

If you want a government that can pick and choose instead of adhering to the law of the land then you are a sorry excuse for an American

Judged:

13

13

13

Reply »
Report Abuse Judge it!

“The (R)ich Party Lies!”

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#10660 May 29, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>
You’re kidding right? Ronald Reagan was 79 years old and what was Reagan suffering from? Alzheimer’s… So whether you like it or not, he very well may have NOT recalled or remembered much of anything at that point… Plus the evidence that was found in investigation didn’t show he had knowledge of the transactions, however, was deeply criticized and should have known.
No, I'm not kidding. Reagan was diagnosed with Alzheimer's disease in 1994. Five years after he left office. Stop making excuses for him. I remember Iran-Contra very well when it happened. Maybe you should ask Barry Seal what he thinks about Ollie North and his orders from a "higher authority". Read up on it.

BTW, the IRS will not have access to your medical records. Another scare tactic from the right.
and so what

Horseshoe Bend, AR

#10661 May 29, 2013
District9 wrote:
<quoted text>
No, I'm not kidding. Reagan was diagnosed with Alzheimer's disease in 1994. Five years after he left office. Stop making excuses for him. I remember Iran-Contra very well when it happened. Maybe you should ask Barry Seal what he thinks about Ollie North and his orders from a "higher authority". Read up on it.
BTW, the IRS will not have access to your medical records. Another scare tactic from the right.
You have been diagnosed as a liar and an unemployed loser, how is that unemployment line working out for you in Paragould Ar.

Level 6

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#10662 May 29, 2013
District9 wrote:
<quoted text>
No, I'm not kidding. Reagan was diagnosed with Alzheimer's disease in 1994. Five years after he left office. Stop making excuses for him. I remember Iran-Contra very well when it happened. Maybe you should ask Barry Seal what he thinks about Ollie North and his orders from a "higher authority". Read up on it.
BTW, the IRS will not have access to your medical records. Another scare tactic from the right.
History is what it is. You obviously prefer to revise just like with the current administration that you favor.

This administration is lying to America, and you love it… Why do you tell us all what’s to stop the IRS from accessing our insurance info when it’s the prerequisite for taxing Americans as a mandate?

Tell us how awesome “Fast and Furious” was… Tell us how our state department knew the 911 attack was because of a video. Tell us how obama got elected while the IRS targeted conservatives so their funds were tied up and unable to allow election efforts. Tell us how justified our government was to do what they did to the AP.

Now that your side is neck deep in all their lies all you can do is propitiate their lies by lying yourself. You’re not a American.
mmkedu

Kansas City, MO

#10663 May 29, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
Fascinating also to see Bob Dole speaking out about this mutant version of the GOP...Actually suggesting that they close for repairs...and that Ronald Reagan would'nt recognize or feel comfortable, with these republicans.....Wonder what effect, Fox has had on the honesty and manufactured outrage associated with the far right....
Dole has been irrelevant for over 10 years. Like Carter, yet you demturds hang on to his every word.
mmkedu

Kansas City, MO

#10664 May 29, 2013
District9 wrote:
<quoted text>
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1990-02-23...
"Reagan said ``I don`t recall`` or ``I can`t remember`` 88 times in the eight hours of testimony taken Feb. 16-17 in Los Angeles."
Worked for Reagan..lol.
Said the DNC tool.

“Invisible Pink Unicorn”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#10665 May 29, 2013
District9 wrote:
<quoted text>
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1990-02-23...
"Reagan said ``I don`t recall`` or ``I can`t remember`` 88 times in the eight hours of testimony taken Feb. 16-17 in Los Angeles."
Worked for Reagan..lol.
That's because he was not calling the shots his wife and staff were covering up the fact that he was in the end stages of Alzheimer's disease.Good chance he did not know where he was either.

Level 7

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#10666 May 30, 2013
mmkedu wrote:
<quoted text>Dole has been irrelevant for over 10 years. Like Carter, yet you demturds hang on to his every word.
Mutant Reich are too dysfunctional to learn from their elders......
Tizzy

Denver, CO

#10667 May 30, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>Mutant Reich are too dysfunctional to learn from their elders......
You must be referring to Debbie Wasserman Schultz? Claire Mccaskill? Eric Holder?

“The (R)ich Party Lies!”

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#10668 May 30, 2013
mmkedu wrote:
<quoted text>Said the DNC tool.
It is a fact about Reagan, one that you don't seem to like.

“The (R)ich Party Lies!”

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#10669 May 30, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>
History is what it is. You obviously prefer to revise just like with the current administration that you favor.
I'm not re-writing anything. Again, Reagan was diagnosed with Alzheimer's disease in 1994. Did you see it that time? Five years after he left office and four years after he testified. From his testimony it seems he had selective memory loss.

"JUDGE HAROLD H. GREENE: Good morning. The witness from whom we will hear this morning is the former President of the United States, Ronald W. Reagan.

THE CLERK: Would you please state your full name and spell your last name for the record.

THE WITNESS: Ronald Reagan, R-e-a-g-a-n.

Direct Examination

By Mr. Beckler

General Recollection

Q. Now, just in a very general sense, Mr. President, I take it you have some recollection of the events that led up to what is now called, for lack of a better word, the Iran-contra affair or the Iran-contra event?

A. Yes. Did you --

Q. Yes. I was just asking if you had some general recollection about the event.

A. Yes. It was a covert action that was taken at my behest.

Q. Can you tell the ladies and gentlemen of the jury what you understand - what you understood the Iranian initiative to be? This was the initiative that started - by the U.S. Government - in early 1986.

A.... There once was at the time of the Shah a very fine relationship between our two countries. With the Khomeini in office, that had gone by the boards. And so a delegation of ours - I believe it was all from the National Security Council - journeyed to that third country to meet with these people. That third country had advised that in their opinion these people were responsible and sincere in what they were seeking.

That third country that I have mentioned is Israel, and they did vouch for the individuals who had come to their country. Obviously, those individuals could not come on the errand that they were on unless it could be kept secret because I am quite sure they would have faced execution by the Government of Iran, had they been exposed.

Q. So, one of the things then that you always felt about this initiative both starting with the Israeli portion of it and then when it became a U.S. initiative that it was important to keep it secret; is that correct?

A. Yes, very much so.

Q. Later on as 1985 went on, do you recall getting some of your top advisers together -Secretary Weinberger and Secretary Shultz - and discussing in a little more depth this Israeli initiative to send weapons overseas to Iran?

A. Yes.

Q. Maybe you could tell the jury a little bit about what you recall about those meetings and the fact that there was disagreement and so on?

A.... I made the decision that there was one thing upon which we could base selling them this single order [of TOW antitank missiles]... if they would use their efforts to get our hostages freed....

If you want the disagreement that occurred between our people, some of our people said that this would - they didn't say it was trading for hostages 'cause it wasn't. My answer - they said it would be made to appear that way if it ever came to light. My answer to that was that if I had a child kidnapped and held for ransom, and if I knew of someone who had perhaps the ability to get that child back, it wouldn't be dealing with the kidnappers to ask that individual to do that. And it would be perfectly fitting for me to reward that individuals for doing this. So, that was my position with regard to what they were asking and what they were doing....

People Working on Project

Q. Did you at any time recall being informed by Admiral Poindexter as to who some of the people were that were working on this Iranian missile project, if you will?

A. The only name that I recall being involved out at that end of it was Colonel North.

“The (R)ich Party Lies!”

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#10670 May 30, 2013
Q.... Do you recall being told that there were certain private individuals who were also working on that project under the coordination of Oliver North?

A. No, I don't. I wouldn't --

Q. Does the name General Secord mean anything to you at all?

A. Yes. I had heard that name and heard that he had as I understood it, that he had some kind of an aero business, a delivery business, and that he might have been involved with delivering some aid to the contras when it was legal to provide such aid.

Q. We will talk about the contras later. In other words, you remember more in the context of the contras, the freedom fighters, rather than with regard to the missiles, I take it?

A. That's right. Yes.

Q. Do you have any recollection as well in 1986 of Admiral Poindexter briefing you about the fact that there were going to be some Hawk missile spare parts sent to Iran under this continuing initiative?

A. The only thing that I am aware of, and I cannot remember any meeting on this or not, was I do have a memory of learning or hearing that the Israelis, prior to these other things, had sent some of their Hawk missiles to Iran evidently in that sale.

Q. Did you and Admiral Poindexter, Mr. President, discuss how the United States at that time in the early part of November 1986 should react to the disclosure about the trip to Iran, what position the U.S. should take?

A. Well --

Q. In terms of disclosure?

A. Well, there was never a time when I believed that we could endanger the people that we were dealing with. And to this day, I couldn't name them, and I don't know what might have taken what might have happened to them.

Q. Do you recall having any discussion with Admiral Poindexter about having him try to get people together to kind of reconstruct what had happened so that if the time came to make certain disclosure, you would have some kind of a story together?...

A. I don't recall. I don't recall that.

Q. Did there come a time at all when you and Admiral Poindexter met with other Administration officials or members - as well as members of Congress and try to relate to them what had gone on?

A. I don't recall anything having to do with the Congress in that sense.

Q. Do you recall in 1986 meeting at all with Mr. Meese and asking him if he can lend a hand in straightening out the recollections of various people?

A. No. My memory of Mr. Meese's participation was when, after all of that thing had broken, that he was the one who located a piece of paper in some office that indicated that there was additional money. And that was - his participation was as Attorney General in case there was something untoward that was waiting there to haunt us. And that was where I got the knowledge about the extra money, and that is the only thing that I remember about from him.

Casey Testimony to Congress

Q. Mr. President, do you recall that the late Mr. Casey had to go up there to Congress and testify on Nov. 21 about this meeting - about what he knew about these missile shipments?

A. I wasn't aware of that. No....

Q. Do you recall, Mr. President, then that Admiral Poindexter on that same morning, Friday, Nov. 21, that he himself met with members of the House Intelligence Committee and members of the Senate Intelligence Committee over in the White House? Do you recall discussing that with Admiral Poindexter?

A. No. But I have to point out that this continued saying of ''I don't recall,'' that so many meetings - and I have been told by statisticians that my average of meetings with people was about 80 a day for eight years - that I don't recall these meetings. And not because they weren't important, and I am sure that I dealt with things at the time.

Q. Now, did there come a time, Mr. President, in 1984 - early 1984 - when it looked like funds that Congress had provided for contra support were running out? Do you recall that time frame?

A. Yes.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Denver Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
News Colo. gay discrimination alleged over wedding cake (Jun '13) 49 min Gary 25,626
Hillary Clinton OUR next President 1 hr Jose 551
News Chupacabra spotted near Tecumseh? (Jul '10) 15 hr Anne M 59
Why I Am Voting for Trump Fri Deanna M 82
Test (Apr '13) Thu THE GREEK GOD 9
Trump is Right, No Anchor Babies Thu Vote Trump 13
Free Food Gift Cards Aug 26 Civilly 1
More from around the web

Personal Finance

Denver Mortgages