What Is The Difference

What Is The Difference

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“THE LAKE OF FIRE”

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#1 Jul 15, 2012
What Is The Difference

If a christian of whom you approve

of tells a lie.

And a atheist tells a lie.

What is the difference between them?

Are they both liars?

A. Yes they are.

B. No they are not.

Which is it?

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#3 Jul 15, 2012
Natasfonos_II wrote:
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If a Christian claims to be of Christ and then lies, the Christian discredits their god as well as themselves.
The atheist only discredits themselves.
A: Obviously they are both liars.
Yet which one has done the most damage?
The Christian only has their testimony for God to draw others into the fold. Once that testimony is tainted, they will not be a good vessel for Christ.
The atheist doesn't care if you agree with their absence of faith. Just leave them alone to be an atheist.
Are you a Christian?

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“THE LAKE OF FIRE”

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#5 Jul 15, 2012
Natasfonos_II wrote:
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I never make a religious claim online. I'm anti-faux christian.
Are you an atheist?
No

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“THE LAKE OF FIRE”

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#7 Jul 15, 2012
Natasfonos_II wrote:
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So what's the point of your OP? Are you looking to discuss and debate or was this a hit and run?
Time will tell.
Legal Counsel

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#9 Jul 15, 2012
Don't you know?

Didn't God tell you?

How odd!

“Dooshbag Agitator”

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#10 Jul 15, 2012
Dear o-o-o,

All liars are liars no matter how you label them religiously. So you approve of your Christian friend, that person is still lying, right?

If I lie as a rock star, does it make me less of a liar than a movie star? You can label the liar any way you wish, it still comes down to LIES!

So stop lying! Or... tell your friend to stop lying, whatever the case may be.

“Deal Me In”

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#11 Jul 15, 2012
-o-o-o- wrote:
What Is The Difference
If a christian of whom you approve
of tells a lie.
And a atheist tells a lie.
What is the difference between them?
Are they both liars?
A. Yes they are.
B. No they are not.
Which is it?
Oh boy, I wish I'd had more coffee before I read this.

There's no difference. Christianity is based on faith; nothing more. An atheist chooses to believe that there is no "God" and doesn't base their existence on an "after life" by believing in Heaven and Hell.

Your question is as irrelevant as the phrase I've often read on these Topix pages "You can go to hell for lying the same as you can for stealing" which also has no validity according to the Christian faith.

According to the bible which is the premise for the Christian belief faith is defined as "hope" and "belief in things unseen".(Hebrews 11:1) That having been said, what possible relevance could lies place on one's faith and how can others stand in judgment when Christians are also taught and should believe that "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of the glory God"?(Romans 3:23) Placing too much emphasis on perfection will cause people to fail regardless of what faith they choose or what they believe in.

Truth is a matter of character and integrity. I'm quite certain that atheists have every bit as much integrity as Christians or any other religion. Unfortunately as Nat pointed out, many people do "judge" Christians based on actions therefore tainting what is perceived as their individual testimony. However, that's an unfair and inadequate interpretation of what is expected of Christians. The bible clearly states the stipulations for entrance into the "Promised Land" and it has nothing to do with "actions". Most people place a lot of unnecessary importance on "lip service" and "deeds" when it's clearly the heart that will be judged. Certainly Christians have an obligation to strive towards living as clean a life as possible but I believe in the end they will be judged, as all will be; by what is in their hearts and the ability to discern the difference between good and evil.

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“THE LAKE OF FIRE”

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#12 Jul 15, 2012
If you tell a lie.

YOU ARE NOT BORN AGAIN.

If you see anyone tell a lie.

THEY ARE NOT BORN AGAIN.

NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES THE DEVIL OR HIS CHILDREN SAY OTHERWISE.

You cannot be born again into the Kingdom of God and tell a lie.

Liars do not ever enter into the Kingdom of God.

NO MATTER WHAT.

So if you lie at all whatsoever at any time.

YOU ARE NOT BORN AGAIN.

And if you tell yourself you are.

YOU HAVE JUST LIED AND BELIEVED YOUR OWN LIE.

GOD DOES NOT FATHER LIARS.

No matter What.

No matter how many times they preach otherwise.

No liars enter into the Kingdom of God.

“Dooshbag Agitator”

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#13 Jul 15, 2012
-o-o-o- wrote:
If you tell a lie.
YOU ARE NOT BORN AGAIN.
If you see anyone tell a lie.
THEY ARE NOT BORN AGAIN.
NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES THE DEVIL OR HIS CHILDREN SAY OTHERWISE.
You cannot be born again into the Kingdom of God and tell a lie.
Liars do not ever enter into the Kingdom of God.
NO MATTER WHAT.
So if you lie at all whatsoever at any time.
YOU ARE NOT BORN AGAIN.
And if you tell yourself you are.
YOU HAVE JUST LIED AND BELIEVED YOUR OWN LIE.
GOD DOES NOT FATHER LIARS.
No matter What.
No matter how many times they preach otherwise.
No liars enter into the Kingdom of God.
Well quit lying then!!

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“THE LAKE OF FIRE”

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#14 Jul 15, 2012
Do you know that a wise man can see the reflection of your soul in your words.

Try to be more aware of this when you say something to me.

Thank you.

“Dooshbag Agitator”

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#15 Jul 15, 2012
-o-o-o- wrote:
Do you know that a wise man can see the reflection of your soul in your words.
Try to be more aware of this when you say something to me.
Thank you.
And you do know who you are and what you are trying to pull. So you try to be aware next time you address me.

Oh and P.S.

Quit lying!

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“THE LAKE OF FIRE”

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#16 Jul 15, 2012
Death Kitten wrote:
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And you do know who you are and what you are trying to pull. So you try to be aware next time you address me.
Oh and P.S.
Quit lying!
The Lord rebuke you.

“Dooshbag Agitator”

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#17 Jul 15, 2012
-o-o-o- wrote:
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The Lord rebuke you.
Only the Lord can say that to me.

Now take your lying elsewhere.

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#18 Jul 15, 2012
-o-o-o- wrote:
If you tell a lie.
YOU ARE NOT BORN AGAIN.
If you see anyone tell a lie.
THEY ARE NOT BORN AGAIN.
NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES THE DEVIL OR HIS CHILDREN SAY OTHERWISE.
You cannot be born again into the Kingdom of God and tell a lie.
Liars do not ever enter into the Kingdom of God.
NO MATTER WHAT.
So if you lie at all whatsoever at any time.
YOU ARE NOT BORN AGAIN.
And if you tell yourself you are.
YOU HAVE JUST LIED AND BELIEVED YOUR OWN LIE.
GOD DOES NOT FATHER LIARS.
No matter What.
No matter how many times they preach otherwise.
No liars enter into the Kingdom of God.
The God you portray is an unforgiving one, who turns His face and love away from repentance. That is not the God I know.

You are wrong in that you choose which words to believe in, and leave out critical aspects of a loving God. But in my eyes, your most grievous offense is believing you have the right to condemn others and know His heart. I believe that to be blasphemous.

No man stands between me and my God.

“Deal Me In”

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#19 Jul 15, 2012
-o-o-o- wrote:
If you tell a lie.
YOU ARE NOT BORN AGAIN.
If you see anyone tell a lie.
THEY ARE NOT BORN AGAIN.
NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES THE DEVIL OR HIS CHILDREN SAY OTHERWISE.
You cannot be born again into the Kingdom of God and tell a lie.
Liars do not ever enter into the Kingdom of God.
NO MATTER WHAT.
So if you lie at all whatsoever at any time.
YOU ARE NOT BORN AGAIN.
And if you tell yourself you are.
YOU HAVE JUST LIED AND BELIEVED YOUR OWN LIE.
GOD DOES NOT FATHER LIARS.
No matter What.
No matter how many times they preach otherwise.
No liars enter into the Kingdom of God.
Okay Bubba, keep right on smoking that stuff and believing what you want. It kinda takes away the whole belief that good ole Peter made it through the Pearly Gates, don't it? Did you ever wonder why Jesus spent time with him after the resurrection?

Some things just completely baffle me. For example, why would someone so adamant that they have the power to judge others even read a message board like this filled with smut and degradation? And then again, why would someone obviously so pure feel they have the right to judge others claiming they aren't "born again"?

How bout you tell me o-o-o, which religion are you affiliated with? Do you study the bible? Can you give me a summary of what Jesus is saying in Matthew chapter 7?

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“THE LAKE OF FIRE”

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#20 Jul 15, 2012
Putting your faith in a lie,
will never make it the Truth.
Revelation

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#21 Jul 15, 2012
-o-o-o- wrote:
What Is The Difference
If a christian of whom you approve
of tells a lie.
And a atheist tells a lie.
What is the difference between them?
Are they both liars?
A. Yes they are.
B. No they are not.
Which is it?
Hi Russsh! Hey, didn't you tell Topix mods you would stay out of Denver? You do know they meant your ridiculous socks too rite?:)

“Dooshbag Agitator”

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#22 Jul 15, 2012
-o-o-o- wrote:
Putting your faith in a lie,
will never make it the Truth.
Exactly right. So why do you keep doing it?

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#23 Jul 16, 2012
-o-o-o- wrote:
Putting your faith in a lie,
will never make it the Truth.
And isn't deception of any kind a lie? So you are among the condemned.

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#24 Jul 16, 2012
-o-o-o- wrote:
What Is The Difference
If a christian of whom you approve
of tells a lie.
And a atheist tells a lie.
What is the difference between them?
Are they both liars?
A. Yes they are.
B. No they are not.
Which is it?
Both are the same.

Is a person lying if they truly believe what they are saying?

Example:
Is someone that tells you the earth is less than 10,000 years old a liar or deceived?

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