Merkel says German multiculturalism has failed

There are 20 comments on the Oct 16, 2010, Reuters story titled Merkel says German multiculturalism has failed. In it, Reuters reports that:

Germany's attempt to create a multicultural society has "utterly failed," Chancellor Angela Merkel said on Saturday, adding fuel to a debate over immigration and Islam polarizing her conservative camp.

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Jaysonrex

Săo Paulo, Brazil

#1 Oct 17, 2010
SO WHAT ELSE IS NEW? ANGELA MERKEL MERELY CONFIRMED WHAT WE ALL KNOW - THE TOTAL FAILURE OF THE SO-CALLED MULTICULTURAL SOCIETY WHEN ISLAM IS IN ANY WAY INVOLVED.
SO WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP - FOR GERMANY AND ALL OTHER EUROPEAN NATIONS? A HIGHLY INCONVENIENT QUESTION UNTIL THE NEXT BOMB EXPLODES IN ANY CAPITAL KILLING SCORES OF PEOPLE AND INJURING COUNTLESS OTHERS - ALL IN THE NAME OF ALLAH THE MERCIFUL.
Jules UK

UK

#2 Oct 17, 2010
Its a real shame. I dont se that there is anything wrong with multi-culturalism as such. Its just that certain cultures simply cant blend with any other cultures. Islam (for the most part) is a good example.
We never seem to have any problems with Seikh extremists making bombs.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#3 Oct 17, 2010
Jaysonrex wrote:
SO WHAT ELSE IS NEW? ANGELA MERKEL MERELY CONFIRMED WHAT WE ALL KNOW - THE TOTAL FAILURE OF THE SO-CALLED MULTICULTURAL SOCIETY WHEN ISLAM IS IN ANY WAY INVOLVED ...
"Merkel faces pressure from within her CDU to take a tougher line on immigrants who don't show a willingness to adapt to German society ..."

There's little doubt about the identity of which immigrants Merkel was referring to; muslims have refused to adapt into western societies in any country they come to, and then wonder why they don't "fit in".
Steve

UK

#4 Oct 17, 2010
Why Integration of Muslims has Failed

The integration of Muslims into Western society has failed, and will never occur to the extent necessary for them to function successfully in Western society. The reason is that a vast majority of them have not fulfilled all three of the criteria that are necessary for becoming members of and feeling at home in our non-Islamic societies: wanting to integrate; being allowed to integrate; and being able to integrate.

Wanting to integrate

Firstly, we must ask ourselves: Why should Muslims want to integrate? They're sure to receive all possible welfare benefits whether they educate themselves, work, learn our language, acknowledge Western values and mix socially with the native population or not. Lack of integration does not involve any risk of becoming socially or culturally isolated, because there are ample opportunities to live with others in a parallel society where all share the same cultural norms as themselves.

Being allowed to integrate

Secondly, it is important to know that Muslim culture is dominated by extreme social and religious control. Because of the great differences (and often even incompatibilities) that exist between Western culture and the Muslim way of life, it is commonplace for members of the Muslim community to see true integration - including making use of basic human rights and freedoms to freely chose one’s clothing, sexual partners, religion, geographic location, lifestyle, etc - as being forms of religious and/or cultural apostasy.

Muslim defectors risk serious consequences: they are almost certain to be excluded by their family and the Muslim community. Threats, kidnappings, incarcerations and even honor killings are not uncommon methods by which the Muslim community sets examples that entice the great majority to "voluntarily" submit to Muslim culture and Islamic rules – at the expense of integration.

Being able to integrate

Thirdly, integration is difficult for Muslims. The cultural and educational level of our high-tech knowledge society is very high. In the West we are expected to regulate our own behaviour without having an aggressive God, an unpleasant Hell, all pervading social control, and aggressive male authorities to set the borders of what is and what is not acceptable and to motivate us towards constructive actions.

A Muslim upbringing thus fails to equip those that are exposed to it (and especially the boys) emotionally and socially with the behaviour required to fit into our institutions, schools, and jobs. The girls are brought up to think that they can only marry muslim men (and are ultimately forced to do so if they don’t agree) and, once married, they are squeezed into the Muslim gender roles and family patterns at the expense of their education and jobs.

Aside from learning the host country’s language (spoken and written), completing our education, keeping a job and refraining from crime, psychological integration has also proven difficult for many Muslim immigrants and their descendants; whilst we in the West see education, career and the ability to control our emotions as the key to economic and social success, religion, honor and the readiness to defend these two aggressively is the most important thing in Muslim culture. Whilst the latter can be a source of profitable relations and social status among Muslims, one does not get far with them outside societies shaped under Islam.

Psychological aspects of integration also impose the requirement that Muslims must deep-down accept such things as the equality of women and non-Muslims, acknowledge freedom of sexuality and speech, and that democracy and secular authorities come before any quoranic or prophetic statements, or anything their imams say. Being brought up with Islamic norms, the jump required for Muslims to embrace our Western lifestyle is too much for most. Socially and psychologically it is more comfortable to stick to what you are told is the right thing from birth
Steve

UK

#5 Oct 17, 2010
The solution

All Muslims in the West are filtered through the three filters mentioned above. However, only a small minority is able to accomplish the necessary social, economic and psychological integration. If we want to save our continent from deteriorating into ethnic conflicts, and to prevent our welfare societies from being destroyed by the unbearable burden of failed integration, there is only one effective solution: make failed integration so practically unpleasant and economically unbeneficial that those who can or will not integrate will find repatriation – state-sponsored emigration to their country of origin - the only attractive option.
Steve

UK

#6 Oct 17, 2010

“Fly low, fly fast.”

Since: Apr 07

East Midlands, UK

#7 Oct 18, 2010
Steve wrote:
The solution
If we want to save our continent from deteriorating into ethnic conflicts, and to prevent our welfare societies from being destroyed by the unbearable burden of failed integration, there is only one effective solution: make failed integration so practically unpleasant and economically unbeneficial that those who can or will not integrate will find repatriation – state-sponsored emigration to their country of origin - the only attractive option.
I visited Southwell Workhouse over the weekend. Perhaps we should look at starting these up again for such peoples as these.

Since: Nov 08

Cologne- Germany

#8 Oct 18, 2010
I have a few Qs to this Lady.
Why it has failed and who should be blamed for that failute?
After 20 odd years of the German unity, is both east and west Germans are united?
How come Helmut Kohl after the fall of Berlin wall had issued to so many newly arrived Russian citizens of German origins German citizenship without any language test?
I was born in India and got married to a German.
I had affixed the German family name and waited for 5 years and paid some 700 DM to get the German pass. I speak German and I will die in Germany but I uphold Multi-culturalism.
Am I cracy?.
In Köln there are some 128 different languages and all sort of people live here harmoniously without any major conflict..

Since: Nov 08

Cologne- Germany

#9 Oct 18, 2010
One more sentense please. I know many boys and girls who were born in Köln and speak better German than me beside two or three European languages and whose parents are Muslims of Turkish nationality.
Those who are here born wish to keep aloof from these crowd

Since: Nov 08

Cologne- Germany

#10 Oct 18, 2010
Britons seem to have given up on assimilating their Muslim population, with many British elites patting themselves on the back for their tolerance and multiculturalism.
Linda Chavez

The lax multiculturalism that urges Americans to accept the unacceptable from their fellow citizens is one of this nation's greatest vulnerabilities in the war on terror.
Richard Perle

Let there be many shades and many colors and let there be more choice and many varieties..
Life will be monotanous if we have one and only one culture.

Since: Nov 08

Cologne- Germany

#11 Oct 18, 2010
As Long as I live in Germany--- I am quite sure that i will live long than this lady's service to humanity as Bundes Chancellarin---- I will support the multi kulti and not mono kulti.

As a German lady at the helm of affairs I beg here to assimilate or unite the east and west Germans with the equal pay and equal life..
The foreign immigrants will help you with blood,sweat and toil.
rkk

Houston, TX

#13 Oct 21, 2010
There is a reason why non-whites need to move to white countries. The reason my freind is that it was the white countries that went to non-white countries to COLONIZE them, to LOOT them, to suck their BLOOD for centuries. AFRICA, INDIA, PHILIPPINES, ASIA. North & South America was a NON-WHITE continent, whites came to plunder it. The history proves that the WHITES have been the true PARASITES of the world, thats why the white countries are so rich. All the weath you have belongs to BLACKS, INDIANS, NATIVE AMERICANS & ASIANS. Stop whining THIEF, they are only taking what rightly belongs to them, and its not even 1% of the LOOT you did Mr Whitey.
rkk

Houston, TX

#14 Oct 21, 2010
There is a reason why non-whites need to move to white countries. The reason my freind is that it was the white countries that went to non-white countries to COLONIZE them, to LOOT them, to suck their BLOOD for centuries. AFRICA, INDIA, PHILIPPINES, ASIA. North & South America was a NON-WHITE continent, whites came to plunder it. The history proves that the WHITES have been the true PARASITES of the world, thats why the white countries are so rich. All the weath you have belongs to BLACKS, INDIANS, NATIVE AMERICANS & ASIANS. Stop whining THIEF, they are only taking what rightly belongs to them, and its not even 1% of the LOOT you did Mr Whitey.
Ramafuchs wrote:
Britons seem to have given up on assimilating their Muslim population, with many British elites patting themselves on the back for their tolerance and multiculturalism.
Linda Chavez
The lax multiculturalism that urges Americans to accept the unacceptable from their fellow citizens is one of this nation's greatest vulnerabilities in the war on terror.
Richard Perle
Let there be many shades and many colors and let there be more choice and many varieties..
Life will be monotanous if we have one and only one culture.
angus longstaffe

UK

#15 Oct 21, 2010
of course you are just jealous rkk. whatever makes you happy.

Since: Nov 08

Cologne- Germany

#16 Oct 21, 2010
The God has no colour and he is the criminal one to make this wretched globe.
I love to hate God
but i love the rational human beings.
Bandit

Istanbul, Turkey

#17 Oct 21, 2010
angus longstaffe wrote:
of course you are just jealous rkk. whatever makes you happy.
Actually he makes a valid point.Europeans looted all those places and their resources for centuries.They even abducted and used black people as slaves for centuries.Now they whine just because people from all those countries live there legally and work at jobs they wouldnt? Old Europe will go down if they keep this arroogance.
angus longstaffe

UK

#18 Oct 22, 2010
i suppose you are turkish and you believe your turkish history is flawless, Bandit.

“Fly low, fly fast.”

Since: Apr 07

East Midlands, UK

#19 Oct 22, 2010
Which is why Turkey is a big playing member of the EU, isn't it Bandit.
MrOwl1939

Summerfield, NC

#20 Oct 22, 2010
Loving to hate God, at least you acknowledge God exists. I love the term rational human being. In my journey through life they have been few and far between. Have a God day!!!
let it be done

Roanoke, VA

#23 Jan 28, 2012
Multi culturalism always fails. It one of the oldest tricks in the book....divide and conquer. I personally dont think National socialist Germany did anything wrong. Thats the Jews creating white guilt on Germans just as the blacks do to euro Americans. Guilts like a bag of bricks....just put down the bag. SELF PRESERVATION IS THE HIGHEST LAW...

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