Hanau says goodbye to U.S. troops

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Col. Ray Graham, left, U.S. Army Garrison Hessen commander, and Hanau's Lord Mayor Claus Kaminsky show off the presents they exchanged following the garrison's closure ceremony on Pioneer Kaserne in Hanau, ...

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Patricia Goff

Little Rock, AR

#472 Nov 22, 2010
David Sidoli wrote:
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Hi Pat,
If you lived downtown by the bauhhof..you must have knowen where the "Hansa-haus" was..it was the German Bowling Alley which was located downstairs and a restaurant was upstairs in that building. I use to go there for many years while stationed in Hanau... bowling for fun & in leagues I met many of my German friends there..it was a great place to have alot of fun!
Have you heard of this place?
I have heard and saw the place but I never went in it. I mostly bowled on Pioneer and then on Wolfgang when they built the new one. I had to go to the new german unemployment office that was built down by the bahnhof after I got laid off from my german job. We used to climb over the cematary wall at night to save about 20-30 minutes of walking around it. It was scary but not to bad. I don't remember seeing it when I was there a few weeks ago but I didn't look for it. Were you there when there was a huge explosion from the factory that was right by the traffic circle by the bahnhof? It was really loud and broke a lot of windows. I can't remember when it was but I guess in the 80's.
Patricia Goff

Little Rock, AR

#473 Nov 22, 2010
I was in Hanau last week and it has changed so much I almost cried. None of the bars are there anymore. When the guy died that owned Fortune across the street from Pioneer it closed down and they put in a car dealership which is now closed cause it was geared at americans. So sad to see everything just sitting empty. I did manage to make it to Vilseck and Graphenvehr and Bamberg. Those bases are still going strong.
lisa

Defuniak Springs, FL

#474 Nov 22, 2010
Patricia Goff wrote:
I was in Hanau last week and it has changed so much I almost cried. None of the bars are there anymore. When the guy died that owned Fortune across the street from Pioneer it closed down and they put in a car dealership which is now closed cause it was geared at americans. So sad to see everything just sitting empty. I did manage to make it to Vilseck and Graphenvehr and Bamberg. Those bases are still going strong.
what about the boat?
Jim Kline

Verbank, NY

#475 Nov 22, 2010
David Arsenault wrote:
Lowell Ma - I was stationed in Pioneer Kasern from July 1966 to Jan 1968. Wow, I can't believe they closed the base. I have such fond memories of the time I spent there. Many fun times at the Eden Bar, The Jolly Bar and the Pioneer Club.
Most of all the good German friend (Bernie) I met while I was working as a cook in the mess hall. He was around my age at the time and worked in the mess hall as a civilian KP. We had so many great times in Hanau partying at all the clubs and through him I got to know a lot of about the German culture.
Sad part is he stopped working there one day and I didnt see him the rest of the time I was there.
Then one day 2 years ago and about 40 years after I had left Germany he managed to get intouch with me over the internet. It was amazing to hear from him after so many years. After chatting online with him for a while, I decided to go back and visit him and the Pioneer Kasern again. I can't tell you how much of a great time I had on my trip back. We went in to visit Pioneer Kasern the first day I arrived and it was so emotional for me visting the old mess hall we both had worked in and to see the base again even though it seemed so deserted compared to when I was stationed there and the old Pioneer Club was now a health club.
Bernie and his wife were so friendly and hospitable to me I can't thank them enough. The first night I arrived he through a big party for me with all his friends and relatives and oh that German beer I had fogotten how good is was.
So it is just sad to hear that all the bases around Hanau have been closed and I know it is sad for Bernie also as the grew up in the area and has many memories of the US soldiers and had made friends with many of them. It's also how he learned to speak english so well, especially all those American slang words.
Now I plan on going back again this summer to visit him and his wife and look forward to it very much. Only this time I guess I won't be able to visit the base again but I hope to see some more of Germany that I didn't get a chance to see when I was stationed there. Keep the beer cold Bernie I'll be back soon
I was at Pioneer '55 -'58. Remember the Jolly Bar well- however some memories of the Jolly Bar are better to forget. Is it still there?
Travis Bledsoe

Easton, MD

#476 Nov 23, 2010
Patricia Goff wrote:
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I have heard and saw the place but I never went in it. I mostly bowled on Pioneer and then on Wolfgang when they built the new one. I had to go to the new german unemployment office that was built down by the bahnhof after I got laid off from my german job. We used to climb over the cematary wall at night to save about 20-30 minutes of walking around it. It was scary but not to bad. I don't remember seeing it when I was there a few weeks ago but I didn't look for it. Were you there when there was a huge explosion from the factory that was right by the traffic circle by the bahnhof? It was really loud and broke a lot of windows. I can't remember when it was but I guess in the 80's.
When I was there, there was a huge explosion in a little town called Brucheoble (spelling?? pronounced Brook Oble). Must have been sometime in 1982. One of my buddies lived there on the economy with his wife and son, who was just a toddler at the time. As I remember, it was an aerosol propellant storage facility. He and I were just getting off night shift if I remember right. He rushed home to find his familiy unharmed, but the explosion devistated like four city blocks. I don't remember many people being injured or killed from it. In fact, I remember there being a loy of talk about how amazing it was that there weren't more casualties as a result of the blast. You can probably look that up by Googling it. I might just do that out of curiosity. I also remember them uncovering a huge bomb (like a 1000 lb) when they were digging the foundation for the new addition to the Frankfurt Hospital. That made front page of the newspaper. Apparently, it was dropped from an allied aircraft during a bombing mission during WWII and failed to detonate on impact. I remember it being deep in the ground.
Pat

Little Rock, AR

#477 Nov 24, 2010
Travis Bledsoe wrote:
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When I was there, there was a huge explosion in a little town called Brucheoble (spelling?? pronounced Brook Oble). Must have been sometime in 1982. One of my buddies lived there on the economy with his wife and son, who was just a toddler at the time. As I remember, it was an aerosol propellant storage facility. He and I were just getting off night shift if I remember right. He rushed home to find his familiy unharmed, but the explosion devistated like four city blocks. I don't remember many people being injured or killed from it. In fact, I remember there being a loy of talk about how amazing it was that there weren't more casualties as a result of the blast. You can probably look that up by Googling it. I might just do that out of curiosity. I also remember them uncovering a huge bomb (like a 1000 lb) when they were digging the foundation for the new addition to the Frankfurt Hospital. That made front page of the newspaper. Apparently, it was dropped from an allied aircraft during a bombing mission during WWII and failed to detonate on impact. I remember it being deep in the ground.
They found an unexploded bomb when they were working on the parking lot by the front gate next to Bldg 5 in the late 80's. I was working at the Pioneer Post office and we all got to go home because they shut down the base until the bomb squad came and disarmed it. There were lots of bomb holes behind Pioneer Kaserne in the woods too! I really loved those woods. Used to party there and even rode my bike and I had a special clearing that I would put a blanket down and read a book. I don't know how to get to those woods now that the base is locked up. I grew up back there by the kinzig river. Oh those lovely carefree days......
Steven Carlson

Genoa City, WI

#478 Dec 3, 2010
Travis Bledsoe wrote:
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I don't remember meeting you, but maybe we met and didn't get to know each other before I left. Was your 1SG's name Carlson and your commander 1LT Cabrall? 1SG Carlson was a big Native American guy with a really pleasant personality. I would love to find them. I have tried to locate 1LT Cabrall a couple times over the years. He probably retired as a Col. or something. They were really good guys and treated me good.
Well Travis out of pure luck you have found 1sg Carlson, you see, I am his son. I went to Sportsfield Elementary when we lived there and I was trying to look up old friends from that school and came across this forum! I don't want to put up his e-mail or phone # here but my Facebook link would be http://www.facebook.com/people/ @/1505557284
Go ahead and send me a friend request and I will give you contact info. He is currently living in Southeastern Wisconsin.
Steven Carlson

Genoa City, WI

#479 Dec 3, 2010
I will also check back here in case you have trouble
Steven Carlson

Genoa City, WI

#480 Dec 3, 2010
http://www.facebook.com/people/ @/1505557284 my link above is broken
Steven Carlson

Genoa City, WI

#481 Dec 3, 2010
Steven Carlson

Genoa City, WI

#482 Dec 3, 2010
For some reason I cant get the link to post right you'll have to copy and paste it into your browser.
Walker

AOL

#487 Dec 9, 2010
I was at Francois Kaserne in the 6th battolion and the 40th Artillery from April 70 until June 71. Some of the best years of my life. So remember the best Pizza I had ever had down the street. No troops there now as it is a School.
Walker

AOL

#488 Dec 9, 2010
Please, anybody else in Hanau in the early 70's
Pat

Little Rock, AR

#489 Dec 9, 2010
Walker wrote:
Please, anybody else in Hanau in the early 70's
I have lots of memories of Lamboystr. We used to go on hayrides back by the ruins on Hutier. I found some amunition shells that didn't go off and my dad had a fit. Don't know what he did with them.

We used to hang out at the bowling alley when my parents bowled. My dad was stationed on Hutier with 45th Med at the time. Later I hung out at Frenchies on Francois Kaserne (that was during my tequila days) when I worked at Central Texas College.

Did you hear about the ghost in the bar that was on Hutier (or was it Hessen-Homburg? They had a unit bar in one of the buildings and there was a ghost in the attic. They used to use it for storage but things kept getting moved around so they stopped using the room for storage. Somebody hung themselves in the room in the attic supposedly. It was written up in the Stars and Stripes one Halloween. The CQ used to hear toilets flushed late at night up on that floor when nobody was there.

We used to go to the movies on Hessen-Homburg alot too! I used to love going to Tony's which was next to the Hamburger Station on the corner beside Hessen-Homburg and I loved the American Legion across from Hutier too!

Years later I worked on the kaserne behind the legion where CPO was. I used to go to the Gym and the Skyline too! I loved Lamboy but it is so different now. I took pictures last year. It makes me sad to see it all gone but at least it is still there. they tore down my high school in Wolfgang.
SFC BOLAN ret

Maple Grove, MN

#491 Dec 14, 2010
I was stationed in Hanau with the 26th S&S Co from 1983 to 1986. Anyone remember Cpt Frenzel or SSG Roach? I helped to paint the Best of the Rest slogan on the Motorpool bay doors..... Mad Max was a nut but straightened out the 26th S&S.

Since: Dec 10

Pittsburgh, PA

#492 Dec 14, 2010
Walker wrote:
Please, anybody else in Hanau in the early 70's
I was stationed in hanau 1971 thru 1973. I was with the 88th hem co also worked in the commissary warehouse for a year or so. spent a lot of time at tonys and also the roxy bar in hanau. I have heard no mention of kisaier strasse in frankfurt or the apple wine season in frankfurt sud.
I found this site in a search for as many people who were stationed on pioneer and got the flu shots that they lined us up for in the fall of 72. If I am right and you recieved this injection you will know why I am looking.
Ann Griffin Parlato

Huntsville, AL

#493 Dec 14, 2010
Andrew Lindsay wrote:
I was stationed at Pioneer from 1982-1984, 881st Maint. Btn. I absolutly loved it. I miss it so much!
I remember you celebrating your Birthday.. Good Times! I married a soldier who moved into you and Doc's old room.
Stella Jackson

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#494 Dec 16, 2010
David Sidoli wrote:
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Hi Audrey....
Been a long time..what the hell are you doing nowdays?
If you see this message..post one back on here so I can read it.
Take Care,
David
Hi David,
Your name sounds so familiar. I was in Hanau also, in the 81st, but worked on Gross Auheim. Actually, I was stationed in Hanau twice. 1981-1982, and then again (1984-1987), then back again to Ansbach - 1988-1989.
Drop me a line if you remember me. Take care..."Still Love Hanau"!!!!
John Spivey

Kent, WA

#495 Dec 16, 2010
David Sidoli wrote:
<quoted text> Hello Roy!..:-) So you did remember that clown..yeah somebody like that you cannot forget even if it was 27 years ago. Anyway, I'm glad you joined this discussion board it's great to hear from people who I served with in the past and it sounds like you are doing well..Good luck with everything you do with your life from here on out.
Take Care,
David Sidoli
Hey you guys remember me? Spc Spivey? I was in your unit 82-84....Best time of my life and I remeber White also
Anonymous

Kent, WA

#496 Dec 16, 2010
Glenn Shepard-retired wrote:
I was in the 81st Maint Co. from 1980-1984, were I was in the service section working on Grossauheim. What an experience, worked 24hrs striaght trying to repair and paint those vechiles at the end of the month. But when we did get time off we partyed hard and I loved fixing and painting my fellow soldiers cars in the area. Even painted the silver foxes car. The unity in that company was like no other I was in during my 21 yrs in the military. Oh Ricky the Modernare was the name of the club on Fliegerhorst, and also the Beacon Warrant Officer club was there.
Man I remember the silver fox bad ass 1st sgt

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