andy griffith show is communist propa...

andy griffith show is communist propaganda

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ColdWarrior

Texarkana, TX

#1 Aug 24, 2007
The old Andy Griffith Show, one of the most-watched, best-loved sitcoms ever, is lauded as a slice of small-town, apple-pie Americana, hearkening back to a simpler, better time when men were men, women were virtuous, and children occasionally were well-behaved. At the same time, one might ask: When a television program from any era is praised by the mainstream media, could there be some underlying leftist message? The answer is yes.

The first and most obvious commie message is Andy’s refusal to carry a gun. Heroically, he captures evildoers every time without a pistol. Notice also that Barney, the one who wants to carry a gun, is a buffoon, and whenever he touches his gun it goes off at random. There is no question what sentiment the producers were expressing. Further, on those rare occasions when there’s a truly violent criminal to pursue, Andy reaches into the rifle rack. And you thought Rosie O’Donnell was the first gun-control hypocrite.

Another modern, leftist, anti-everything-traditional message is the complete absence of a nuclear family on the Griffith show. Barney is single and desperate; Andy is widowed and moderately content; Gomer and Goober were single and whatever; Thelma Lou and Helen were single; Bea was a spinster…I can’t remember whether anybody on the show was married with children. The nuclear family was passé even for Mayberry residents of the early 1960’s. Other anti-family messages: A rare married couple portrayed on the show wasn’t happy unless they were having violent domestic disputes; another couple, with the husband played by Jack Nicholson, abandoned their baby at the beginning of an episode.

There are other implausible tweaks. On some old episodes, you’ll see Andy, Barney, Thelma Lou, and Helen having dinner at the local greasy spoon after 10 P.M. This almost never happened in real towns like Mayberry, and in fact is not very popular today in the south outside cities the size of Atlanta. You’ll also see occasional mention of cocktails before dinner – a decidedly citified custom that would have been extraordinary in a small southern town in the 1960’s.

And there are anti-gender role stereotype messages. Whenever a man from the country walks into town to find a wife, he is a buffoon. Earnest T. Bass and a two-episode character played by Alan Hale represented this anachronism.(Alan Hale played the Skipper on Gilligan’s Island; in Mayberry, he came complete with overalls.) Both considered it the man’s job to pursue the woman and to provide for the family later on. No wonder they were portrayed as buffoons. And for their parts, Andy and Barney endured all sorts of abuse at the hands of Helen and Thelma Lou. On many an occasion, Andy and Barn would (completely innocently) step into a pile of the women’s wrath, and spend most of an episode trying to apologize, explain, and beg their way out of it. Of course, the tables were seldom, perhaps never, turned.

There are other messages. The old man who owned the department store was a miser who hated people and cheated his employees. No one ever made a strong moral statement about Otis, the town drunk who had a wife at home but seemed to spend most nights in jail. Helen, the public schoolteacher, knew what was good for children better than their parents did.

There are plenty of superficial old-fashioned small-town quirks in the shows, such as the town band and the townspeople’s exaggerated ignorance of anything cosmopolitan. Occasionally the point was made that children need to learn discipline. But these features always floated on the surface. The underlying messages were that the nuclear family is uncommon and perhaps unnecessary; gender-role stereotypical living is mostly without merit; guns are bad; capitalists are evil; teachers are better than parents; and according to one ridiculous episode, killing a bird (by accident, no less) is about the greatest crime imaginable.

awc

“Pepperland”

Since: Dec 06

Pepperland

#2 Oct 16, 2007
total bullshit. its the best show ever made... if its an act of communism, then i want in..... andy griffith and don knotts are better people then most of us will ever be...
Walter

Murfreesboro, NC

#3 Feb 8, 2008
You are such a DORK you FAR LEFTIST LIBERAL who is reads CRAP into all things good. You BIG DUMMY!! You don't know SQUAT!! Especially about small town living and the good ol' days!! You were probably born in the 1980's. You DOPE!! STUPID! STUPID! STUPID!!

awc

“Pepperland”

Since: Dec 06

Pepperland

#4 Feb 8, 2008
cold warrior is such an idiot,a major mormon on the loose.
this idiot is most likely a religious extremist, not much different from a terrorist.
the andy griffith show is the greatest t.v. show ever created, this idiot is just too afraid to attack people who will attack back, in other words, a poor sap.

cold warrior grow up, jesus wouldn't like what you posted.

remember jesus was a rebel too.
KauaiMark

United States

#5 Mar 10, 2008
Don't you guys get satire when you hear it?
Save TAGS Credits

Arlington, TN

#6 May 10, 2008
Hello.
Perhaps recently, if you enjoy The Andy Griffith Show and TVLAND, you have noticed that TVLAND has cut out the end credits of Andy and began to show stupid reality shows.
NO!
This just will not do.
Recently, on my Andy Forum: http://www.andygriffithshow.net/ a man by the name of Jim Shea has made a petition about this!
Here are helpful links:
Information about petition and how to sign:
http://www.andygriffithshow.net/forum/viewtop...
Information about Andy Griffith himself possibly supporting the petition:
http://www.andygriffithshow.net/forum/viewtop...
Confirmation about Andy Griffith supporting the petition and info about an interview with Andy:
http://www.andygriffithshow.net/forum/viewtop...
Please help us to save Andy and PLEASE spread the word!
Toothless in Seattle

United States

#7 May 10, 2008
ColdWarrior wrote:
The old Andy Griffith Show, one of the most-watched, best-loved sitcoms ever, is lauded as a slice of small-town,........to one ridiculous episode, killing a bird (by accident, no less) is about the greatest crime imaginable.
........Why stop here? Why not go on about every show where there are THESE traits in common? I agree that the nuclear family is in jeopardy in America, but why pick on this one show? Maybe Ward and June were frigid, after raising two irritating boys? Kidding, of course, but how about the hundreds of shows that are so much worse? Have you ever considered that this may NOT be a grand subliminal conspiracy, but rather a innocent formula to feature individuals? How about the Jefferson's? Or, Sanford n' Sons? All white people featured are completely and totally borderline retarded. Why stop with television? How about movies? Books? Music? Media? Politics? You've concentrated all of your efforts on an innocuous sit com that in the end, protected the family. You mentioned guns. What about the UK? Do the bobbies have guns?
Giving you a very long leash, I would say that the writers of the show were not conscious of indoctrinating America into communism, one viewer at a time, but rather expressing their own interpretation of a small town America, with faults and realism of the real world from their own eyes...
I think if you're going after Andy, you need to broaden your brush my friend.
Toothless in Seattle

United States

#8 May 10, 2008
KauaiMark wrote:
Don't you guys get satire when you hear it?
.........Satire? WOW, HOW COULD I HAVE MISTAKEN THIS FOR AN ACTUAL VIEW? Geez, was I wrong. I think I need to go and take a smart pill. SATIRE! gosh, Why didn't I think of that.

.........I think coldwarrior was making a point. He went to great lengths to promote his idea. If it were merely satire, he needed to give just a HINT of a clue as to that fact, for the stupid people like me.

awc

“Pepperland”

Since: Dec 06

Pepperland

#9 May 10, 2008
Toothless in Seattle wrote:
<quoted text>
.........Satire? WOW, HOW COULD I HAVE MISTAKEN THIS FOR AN ACTUAL VIEW? Geez, was I wrong. I think I need to go and take a smart pill. SATIRE! gosh, Why didn't I think of that.
.........I think coldwarrior was making a point. He went to great lengths to promote his idea. If it were merely satire, he needed to give just a HINT of a clue as to that fact, for the stupid people like me.
i guess us simple folks can't understand the neo bushit.
hitler has risen, lol.
andy griffith is a saint, but coldie pop, can't see that, his loss.
satire my azz.
ColdWarrior

United States

#10 May 11, 2008
Don't believe me? Look at Andy Griffiths wikipedia page, the man is a MJOR leftist!

awc

“Pepperland”

Since: Dec 06

Pepperland

#11 May 11, 2008
ColdWarrior wrote:
Don't believe me? Look at Andy Griffiths wikipedia page, the man is a MJOR leftist!
so am I.
Andy is a treasure, anyone who can find reasons to attack Andy, is very mentally unstable.
and your right, we don't beleive you.

awc

“Pepperland”

Since: Dec 06

Pepperland

#12 May 11, 2008
ColdWarrior wrote:
The old Andy Griffith Show, one of the most-watched, best-loved sitcoms ever, is lauded as a slice of small-town, apple-pie Americana, hearkening back to a simpler, better time when men were men, women were virtuous, and children occasionally were well-behaved. At the same time, one might ask: When a television program from any era is praised by the mainstream media, could there be some underlying leftist message? The answer is yes.
i'm sure if you told you doctor, your bi-polar can be controlled.
maybe you just need to get off the computer and turn off the t.v. too.
gilligan smoked pot, is he a satanist?
lucy was a druggie with her vitamin too right?
fonzie rode a cycle, he's a hell's angel?
talk about needing a life, lol.
Toothless in Seattle

Schaumburg, IL

#13 May 17, 2008
ColdWarrior wrote:
Don't believe me? Look at Andy Griffiths wikipedia page, the man is a MJOR leftist!
A major leftist? About as much as the next lefty. It says nothing in there about being a commie, you dunce!

“Peace and Goodwill..PLEASE !”

Since: Oct 07

Greeneville TN

#14 May 17, 2008
ColdWarrior" The old Andy Griffith Show, one of the most-watched, best-loved sitcoms ever, is lauded as a slice of small-town, apple-pie Americana, hearkening back to a simpler, better time when men were men, women were virtuous, and children occasionally were well-behaved. At the same time, one might ask: When a television program from any era is praised by the mainstream media, could there be some underlying leftist message? The answer is yes.

"You don't get out much, huh?"
Nummer Nine

United States

#15 May 17, 2008
ColdWarrior wrote:
Don't believe me? Look at Andy Griffiths wikipedia page, the man is a MJOR leftist!
leftist?
andy?
omg, what hog wash.
Barney Fife , gun controll?
is it cold warrior or Goober?

awc

“Pepperland”

Since: Dec 06

Pepperland

#16 Jun 1, 2008
Happy birthday, " Andy Griffith".
we all still love you, if you are the anti-Christ or even the Great pumpkin, It's ok, with me.
You have contributed so much to the world of art, along with your dear departed friend, Don Knotts, whom we still miss so dearly.
May you celebrate many more birthdays and i'm looking forward to your next movie coming up this summer, GOD bless.
not for sickos

Bronx, NY

#17 Jun 25, 2008
You are a sick fxxk, shame on you. Where were your parents when you were young?
Ritchie Cunningham

United States

#18 Jun 25, 2008
God bless you Andy Griffith, you are a true Christian man.
communist? Andy?
Texarkana needs an enama.
Great pumpkin maybe, but not the Anti-Christ, that's Barak Hussein Obama.
ColdWarrior

Cottonwood, AZ

#19 Jun 25, 2008
Toothless in Seattle wrote:
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A major leftist? About as much as the next lefty. It says nothing in there about being a commie, you dunce!
DemocRAT and communist, same thing!
Joshua - votedforRonPaul

Pensacola, FL

#20 Dec 25, 2008
I found this post because after purchasing and watching several episodes, I knew there had to be someone else out here who caught what I was seeing. You are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, but you left out a huge element. Has anyone noticed the big brother propaganda?? Emminent Domain is praised, free trade and private enterprise (moonshine) is scorned, people are locked up for expressing their dissent to governmental tyranny and for a myriad of other God-given rights too, such as singing on the sidewalk etc. And it's interesting to note the reoccuring theme that the Sheriff is honor-bound to enforce the law no matter how unjust it is! This is big brother, fascist propaganda!!! And to think I loved this show as a kid. Can't believe I bought several seasons.

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