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Armstrong drops fight against USADA drug charges, puts Tour titles on line

There are 402 comments on the CBS Sports story from Aug 23, 2012, titled Armstrong drops fight against USADA drug charges, puts Tour titles on line. In it, CBS Sports reports that:

Lance Armstrong said Thursday night he is finished fighting a barrage of drug charges from the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, putting his unprecedented string of seven Tour de France titles at risk along with his legacy as one of the greatest cyclists in history.

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My_Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#301 Nov 17, 2012
Conservative Democrat wrote:
<quoted text>
No, no. You don't get to hide behind that kilt/skirt.
I have Adult ADHD and it wasn't diagnosed until 8 years ago. Maybe it's not severe by your standards, but before finding out about my Tachycardia problem I was on Concerta 54.
And I got through law school without any medication. And I don't misspell, or have typos ad naseum like you.
BTW, in case you don't already know this, the British spell "while" as "whilst." That's not a spelling error; it's a difference between U.S.' English and British English.
Too bad Rosetta Stone doesn't have a culture course for you to buy. You need it.
CD, you're better off trying to stick to your day job as a lawyer, as you sure as hell know nothing about mental health right along with Chris and Gus.

Like any medical issue, not every person is affected by an ailment in the exact same way as another person.

That you were able to proceed through college really doesn't make you any better then anyone else and I'm glad that you were able to do so as without knowing it, you adjusted to your problems without realizing it and got through it just the same as many other people have doe the same for many years before medicine was able to establish the persence of ADD/ADHD.

For the record, I proceeded through four universities and only half way through before I was tested and dignosed with ADHD. But, I also know how that processed with me and I also know how it affects people in different ways since I have also worked with adolescents to adults who have ADD/ADHD.
My_Opinion_El Paso_Texas

United States

#303 Nov 18, 2012
Athos wrote:
<quoted text>It’s Chrisie not Chrissy. Differences, not diferences.
Oh BTW. Are you not the one who went on and on and on about verbally abusing ‘families?
Is that the best you can do Chrissy! You really are a hard up individual like your pet turtle there in Canada.

I haven't attacked or verbably abused anyone's family members Chrissy.

All I did was make an observation.

“Carpe Diem”

Since: Mar 07

Bristol UK

#304 Nov 18, 2012
My_Opinion_El Paso_Texas wrote:
<quoted text>
Is that the best you can do Chrissy! You really are a hard up individual like your pet turtle there in Canada.
I haven't attacked or verbably abused anyone's family members Chrissy.
All I did was make an observation.
Thank you for your kind reply

“Carpe Diem”

Since: Mar 07

Bristol UK

#305 Nov 19, 2012
My_Opinion_El Paso_Texas wrote:
<quoted text>
Is that the best you can do Chrissy! You really are a hard up individual like your pet turtle there in Canada.
I haven't attacked or verbably abused anyone's family members Chrissy.
All I did was make an observation.
Now let me see
You wrote

Quote: you come from an alcoholic personality. I'm just wondering if your father was like that as well. Between addictive traits tranferring from generation to geration and observed behavior, we're been able to see how similar individuals show up as from generation to generation. End quote

Just a little abuse of my family who are dead and unable to reply
My_Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#306 Nov 19, 2012
Athos wrote:
<quoted text>Now let me see
You wrote
Quote: you come from an alcoholic personality. I'm just wondering if your father was like that as well. Between addictive traits tranferring from generation to geration and observed behavior, we're been able to see how similar individuals show up as from generation to generation. End quote
Just a little abuse of my family who are dead and unable to reply
Now you're playing the pity poty Chris. Amazing how twisted up you are in yourself.

Yet, you haven't been able to answer questions posted to you as that seems to be inconveinent for you as well.

Yes Chris, you are a very twisted little man. And you're not a very honest one as well considering the BS behavior you brought into these forum threads.

“Carpe Diem”

Since: Mar 07

Bristol UK

#307 Nov 19, 2012
My_Opinion_El Paso_Texas wrote:
<quoted text>
Now you're playing the pity poty Chris. Amazing how twisted up you are in yourself.
Yet, you haven't been able to answer questions posted to you as that seems to be inconveinent for you as well.
Yes Chris, you are a very twisted little man. And you're not a very honest one as well considering the BS behavior you brought into these forum threads.
Lance Armstrong and I are extremely interested in your remarks. Thank you Mr Moep

Lie down, relax and let us discuss any problems you may have

( Potty)(Inconvenient)(Behaviour )
My_Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#308 Nov 20, 2012
Athos wrote:
<quoted text>Lance Armstrong and I are extremely interested in your remarks. Thank you Mr Moep
Lie down, relax and let us discuss any problems you may have
( Potty)(Inconvenient)(Behaviour )
Pathetic at best!

“2014 TDF”

Since: Mar 09

Boca Raton, FL.

#309 Nov 20, 2012
My_Opinion_El Paso_Texas wrote:
<quoted text>
CD, you seem to be on the RAG 24/7 and ADHD doesn't cause that.
You might want to discuss your problem with your doctor.
Oh boy, what an original!

I thought NCO's had worse things to say about officers, and lawyers. Are you trying to flatter me ya koos?

“2014 TDF”

Since: Mar 09

Boca Raton, FL.

#310 Nov 20, 2012
Professional Mtb Rider wrote:
So basically Lance's teamate rat him out so UCI decided to take action against only him. Did they really hear that guys testimony. He said every single rider in top 50 spots doing the same as Lance for the longest time. That means every single top team and rider taking roids. So why did only Lance get stripped and banned like he the only rider doing this? UCI is famous in cycling world for making bad decissions and this might be the worst of all time. Lances teamate admit he also took these drugs and he wasnt even close to top contender. That proves along with his testimony that every top team been doping and avoiding drug tests for many many many years. To single out one rider to take the fall shows you how ignorant the UCI officials are. I never watching or attending any UCI event ever again. They are the real monsters here and been ruining cycling for many years.
You have a point. OTOH, look at it from this perspective; if it's true that all of Lance's teammates doped (I say if, because we really don't know for sure and all we have is coerced testimony), then the UCI punishing Lance alone shows some kind of integrity for cycling as a sport. All of his teammates admitted to doping. Lance denied it. Lance filed a frivolous complaint, which got tossed out of court as quickly as a rabbit gets f*cked. Then all he could do was quit.

He had other avenues, but he chose to deny and then to quit. That says more about him doping, in silence, than he could have ever said in words.

What happened to Lance is tragic. But, as we say in my profession; you do the crime; you do the time. His teammates got off because they had the balls to admit their wrongdoing. To many that's still the better of two evils.
Gus

Vancouver, Canada

#311 Nov 20, 2012
If I remember correctly,in the UK,NCOs were lowest of the low,despised by Privates,anyone could become an NCO but most Privates knew what they were like and offers were turned BIG TIME!

“Carpe Diem”

Since: Mar 07

Bristol UK

#312 Nov 20, 2012
My_Opinion_El Paso_Texas wrote:
<quoted text>
Pathetic at best!
No spelling mistakes, well done,
Now, lay back,
I will just put on a soothing disk
You are sleepy; your eyes are heavy,
Relax, relax,
That’s good
Now repeat after me “I must respect the family of Athos’
Very good
Now, slowly open your eyes, count from 10 to 1 slowly
OK! Wide awake
Call again in five days time
The bill is in the post

“2014 TDF”

Since: Mar 09

Boca Raton, FL.

#315 Nov 20, 2012
My_Opinion_El Paso_Texas wrote:
<quoted text>
CD, you're better off trying to stick to your day job as a lawyer, as you sure as hell know nothing about mental health right along with Chris and Gus.
Like any medical issue, not every person is affected by an ailment in the exact same way as another person.
That you were able to proceed through college really doesn't make you any better then anyone else and I'm glad that you were able to do so as without knowing it, you adjusted to your problems without realizing it and got through it just the same as many other people have doe the same for many years before medicine was able to establish the persence of ADD/ADHD.
For the record, I proceeded through four universities and only half way through before I was tested and dignosed with ADHD. But, I also know how that processed with me and I also know how it affects people in different ways since I have also worked with adolescents to adults who have ADD/ADHD.
I know enough about mental health to know that you flaunted your ADHD as a cop out. And now that your bluff has been called, you resort to the proverbial "everyone is different" with regard to an ailment. As if that's not something that's common knowledge!

You MAY know a tad about mental health, and I say that because I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. But, don't you know everything. There is a lot about mental health that is either common knowledge, or available for ANYONE to indulge their brain. I am a lawyer and I will be the first to admit I don't know EVERYTHING about the law. If you find a lawyer who tells you he/she does, RUN!!!!

“2014 TDF”

Since: Mar 09

Boca Raton, FL.

#316 Nov 20, 2012
Hairy Samoan Lineman wrote:
There are no surprises, every pro is desperate for advantage. Human body have extremely limitations so they attempt to alter it. This been happening for longest time as scientists trying to get in the game. This cover up lasted soo long and soo wide spread officials scrambling their brains now. Guess what half the officials on roids also so we never getting any true justice from any organization. Just assume the top stars of any sport male or female had alot of help and not trying to admit anything to tarnish they accomplishments.
Baloney. The TDF, for example, has been raced since before doping was even a consideration by a cyclist, and on machines what weighed almost twice as much as they do now, and with components so antiquated, when compared to today's machines, that would make an old man cringe.

The human body can overcome almost any challenge; all it takes is determination. Look at Oscar Pistorius.

From an amateur cyclist POV, I believe it's more the challenge of the cowards who only care about $$$, than actual sportsmanship. That concept went out-the-door almost two decades ago and cycling, unfortunately, has been no different. In all fairness, however, cycling is, from a physical stand point, one of, if not the most, demanding sport.

“2014 TDF”

Since: Mar 09

Boca Raton, FL.

#317 Nov 20, 2012
Athos wrote:
<quoted text>No spelling mistakes, well done,
Now, lay back,
I will just put on a soothing disk
You are sleepy; your eyes are heavy,
Relax, relax,
That’s good
Now repeat after me “I must respect the family of Athos’
Very good
Now, slowly open your eyes, count from 10 to 1 slowly
OK! Wide awake
Call again in five days time
The bill is in the post
Proper capitalization and punctuation as well. Wow, he is getting better.

I think he's going to stiff you though.
My_Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#318 Nov 20, 2012
Conservative Democrat wrote:
<quoted text>
You have a point. OTOH, look at it from this perspective; if it's true that all of Lance's teammates doped (I say if, because we really don't know for sure and all we have is coerced testimony), then the UCI punishing Lance alone shows some kind of integrity for cycling as a sport. All of his teammates admitted to doping. Lance denied it. Lance filed a frivolous complaint, which got tossed out of court as quickly as a rabbit gets f*cked. Then all he could do was quit.
He had other avenues, but he chose to deny and then to quit. That says more about him doping, in silence, than he could have ever said in words.
What happened to Lance is tragic. But, as we say in my profession; you do the crime; you do the time. His teammates got off because they had the balls to admit their wrongdoing. To many that's still the better of two evils.
1. First you say that these team mates nf Lance Armstrong were coerced for their statements. Then you state that they had the balls to admit their wrong doing.

So CD, which is it?

2. I wouldn't give the UCI any awards for their decision in supporting the USADA's case and decision as tehy really didn't have a choice in the matter.

You really don't have a clue as to the background of the cycling sport!
My_Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#319 Nov 20, 2012
Gus wrote:
If I remember correctly,in the UK,NCOs were lowest of the low,despised by Privates,anyone could become an NCO but most Privates knew what they were like and offers were turned BIG TIME!
Now what would a rock turd remember from anyone serving in the military considering that the rock turd never served in the military himself!
My_Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#320 Nov 20, 2012
Athos wrote:
<quoted text>No spelling mistakes, well done,
Now, lay back,
I will just put on a soothing disk
You are sleepy; your eyes are heavy,
Relax, relax,
That’s good
Now repeat after me “I must respect the family of Athos’
Very good
Now, slowly open your eyes, count from 10 to 1 slowly
OK! Wide awake
Call again in five days time
The bill is in the post
Respect is "Earned" Chris and you sure as hell haven't earned it.

But, it's delightful in seeing that you and Drew are so much alike.

I'm beginning to wonder if the two of you are related some how!
My_Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#321 Nov 20, 2012
Conservative Democrat wrote:
<quoted text>
1. I know enough about mental health to know that you flaunted your ADHD as a cop out. And now that your bluff has been called, you resort to the proverbial "everyone is different" with regard to an ailment.
2. As if that's not something that's common knowledge!
You MAY know a tad about mental health, and I say that because I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.
3. But, don't you know everything. There is a lot about mental health that is either common knowledge, or available for ANYONE to indulge their brain. I am a lawyer and I will be the first to admit I don't know EVERYTHING about the law. If you find a lawyer who tells you he/she does, RUN!!!!
1. I have never "Flaunted" anything in regard to medical and or mental health issues simply as I don't find anything about them funny.

But, you sure don't think twice about attacking people and making fun of them just as you did with attacking women in military service.

2. Actually CD, you don't have a clue about what society, much less those with health issues actually know about health problems that so many people have to live with daily since you show more stereotyped thinking here then any emperical knowledge much less the ethics that I have seen in some very good officers and Lawyers whom I've know personally.

3. I'm not sure CD, but I think you were trying to say, "You don't know everything," rather then your statement above, "Don't you know everything." As your statement sounded more like a question, which then ended your sentence with a "period" then with a "question mark!"

Condsidering that the pratcice of medicine itself is several thousand years old and that the age of mental health only went past one hundred years old several years ago, no one in the field is claiming to know everything. So, I don't know know everything there is to know and I have never stated otherwise.

But, I have already seen differences (since 2004) in the triggers of PTSD that even some therapists here in El Paso and else where haven't picked up on.
My_Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#322 Nov 20, 2012
Conservative Democrat wrote:
<quoted text>
1. Baloney. The TDF, for example, has been raced since before doping was even a consideration by a cyclist, and on machines what weighed almost twice as much as they do now, and with components so antiquated, when compared to today's machines, that would make an old man cringe.
The human body can overcome almost any challenge; all it takes is determination. Look at Oscar Pistorius.
From an amateur cyclist POV, I believe it's more the challenge of the cowards who only care about $$$, than actual sportsmanship. That concept went out-the-door almost two decades ago and cycling, unfortunately, has been no different. In all fairness, however, cycling is, from a physical stand point, one of, if not the most, demanding sport.
CD, you are incorrect here in the dates of doping vs cycling.

Le Tour de France began in 1903.

Doping in cycling actually began in 1886.

Chris had just posted that web site a few days ago, but here it is again for you CD!

List of doping cases in cycling

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_doping_c...

“2014 TDF”

Since: Mar 09

Boca Raton, FL.

#324 Nov 20, 2012
My_Opinion_El Paso_Texas wrote:
<quoted text>
1. First you say that these team mates nf Lance Armstrong were coerced for their statements. Then you state that they had the balls to admit their wrong doing.
So CD, which is it?
Ah, c'mon, I'm sure a man who works with mental patients can figure that one out. Coerced testimony because they were offered a deal. What is used to extract testimony does not devalue the testimony itself. It only serves to question the motive for the testimony.

I forget; you didn't go to law school, so that's not something you would have known.
My_Opinion_El Paso_Texas wrote:
2. I wouldn't give the UCI any awards for their decision in supporting the USADA's case and decision as tehy really didn't have a choice in the matter.
You really don't have a clue as to the background of the cycling sport!
It's they, not "tehy." And if you're going to go there, then I submit that not even the USADA had a choice in the matter. Lance filed a frivolous lawsuit; he denied the allegations and when confronted with the proof, however circumstantial, he folded like a cheap suit and quit. No further proof required to bolster the "choice" of the USADA.

You really don't have a clue as to the intricacies of our legal system, the burden of proof, or the standards of evidence!

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