Armstrong drops fight against USADA drug charges, puts Tour titles on line

Aug 23, 2012 Full story: CBS Sports 402

Lance Armstrong said Thursday night he is finished fighting a barrage of drug charges from the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, putting his unprecedented string of seven Tour de France titles at risk along with his legacy as one of the greatest cyclists in history.

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inheatwillyouche at

Bryn Mawr, PA

#1 Aug 23, 2012
How can a US agency strip an athlete of a title won in France/Europe. I thought only the French could strip a Tour De France winner of their titles.

That being said I think there was too much evidence that Armstrong did indeed cheat/dope. Not to say his competitors didn't or that Lance didn't have a passion and understanding of his sport above many others. But it's his knowledge and understanding of doping that got him into trouble.
Laurent

Gaillard, France

#2 Aug 23, 2012
It is big day for the sport, lance is back to the start line he do not even get the courage like man to confess ,shame on him ,what story he will tell to his 5 kids later ," i was innocent they r w wrong ??? Prison r full of innocent poeple ...
Pat

Wellington, New Zealand

#3 Aug 24, 2012
The USADA is a disgusting self-serving organisation staffed by people who's sole objective is to chop sportspeople down. I have no doubt whatsoever that USADA has acquired evidence by fair means or foul and have been well aware that they would win out in the end because they could fight longer than Lance ever could.
I watched hours and hours of Tour de France on TV over the past 12 years and I am convinced that Lance Armstrong is a true champion. A cancer survivor who succeeded at the highest level of one of the toughest sports in the world. There may well have been an instance (or two) of doping but that has NEVER been proved. Take comments by Armstrong's team mates with a grain of salt. They have much to gain by outing him, and who could believe anything Floyd Landis says for example. In the absence of real proof, stripping Lance of his titles is a travesty, and I very much doubt the USADA has the power to do that anyway. What sticks in my mind is that Lance has been drug tested more than any other athlete on the planet and publicly, at least, he has never failed. Now the authorities are making an issue about a so-called positive test in 2009 when Lance returned to the tour with nothing to prove.
One thing I do know. The Tour de France was exciting when Lance was racing and without him the tour has been a long bore.
wotnogwavy

Eastwood, Australia

#4 Aug 24, 2012
Pat wrote:
The USADA is a disgusting self-serving organisation staffed by people who's sole objective is to chop sportspeople down. I have no doubt whatsoever that USADA has acquired evidence by fair means or foul and have been well aware that they would win out in the end because they could fight longer than Lance ever could.
I watched hours and hours of Tour de France on TV over the past 12 years and I am convinced that Lance Armstrong is a true champion. A cancer survivor who succeeded at the highest level of one of the toughest sports in the world. There may well have been an instance (or two) of doping but that has NEVER been proved. Take comments by Armstrong's team mates with a grain of salt. They have much to gain by outing him, and who could believe anything Floyd Landis says for example. In the absence of real proof, stripping Lance of his titles is a travesty, and I very much doubt the USADA has the power to do that anyway. What sticks in my mind is that Lance has been drug tested more than any other athlete on the planet and publicly, at least, he has never failed. Now the authorities are making an issue about a so-called positive test in 2009 when Lance returned to the tour with nothing to prove.
One thing I do know. The Tour de France was exciting when Lance was racing and without him the tour has been a long bore.
I agree. The head of USADA said since Lance has 'given up' the conclusion is that he was guilty. Easy for him to say, since it is an organisation's money and witch hunt that was after Lance, where as Lance has only his money to pay legal fees, which ultimately would have sent hime broke. Jesus, they make me sick.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#5 Aug 24, 2012
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/cycling/08-22-...
Well done Lance Armstrong. I would trust you before the USADA any day. The USADA is thoroughly discredited.
Regis Le cycliste

Poussan, France

#8 Aug 24, 2012
Laurent wrote:
It is big day for the sport, lance is back to the start line he do not even get the courage like man to confess ,shame on him ,what story he will tell to his 5 kids later ," i was innocent they r w wrong ??? Prison r full of innocent poeple ...
Vous affichez la vérité, mon ami.(Yor post the truth, my friend)
Regis Le cycliste

Poussan, France

#9 Aug 24, 2012
We always knew it, Lance's muliple victories were achieved the American way. "Cheating". Shame on him. Floyd Landis confirmed it. Greg Lemond was a worthy winner.
Needs real evidence

Erie, PA

#10 Aug 24, 2012
inheatwillyoucheat wrote:
How can a US agency strip an athlete of a title won in France/Europe. I thought only the French could strip a Tour De France winner of their titles.
That being said I think there was too much evidence that Armstrong did indeed cheat/dope. Not to say his competitors didn't or that Lance didn't have a passion and understanding of his sport above many others. But it's his knowledge and understanding of doping that got him into trouble.
I don't know if Lance cheated or not but seeing how so many cases with EYE witness testimony are being overturned with DNA evidence. See story, and given that the EYE witness are being given something to testify against him I have to concluded he is not guilty.
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story...
If the USADA only has Eye witnesses and “Experts” that say well maybe the test could show he was using drugs, then in this country he is not guilty until proven so. If the USADA case is so strong let them take him to a real court and present they evidence. Whatever happened to being judge by a jury of your peers.
Needs real evidence

Erie, PA

#11 Aug 24, 2012
Regis Le cycliste wrote:
We always knew it, Lance's muliple victories were achieved the American way. "Cheating". Shame on him. Floyd Landis confirmed it. Greg Lemond was a worthy winner.
Greg Lemond still holds one of the fastest times in an individual time trial during the Tour. He has said that the only way Lance could have raced that fast was by cheating. So by his own words Greg must have cheated to achieve what he did. So people should be careful what they say it can come back to haunt them.
turtle

Huddersfield, UK

#12 Aug 24, 2012
this will go on and on and on. depressing that he has not admitted his guilt,
Regis Le cycliste

Poussan, France

#13 Aug 24, 2012
Needs real evidence wrote:
<quoted text>
Greg Lemond still holds one of the fastest times in an individual time trial during the Tour. He has said that the only way Lance could have raced that fast was by cheating. So by his own words Greg must have cheated to achieve what he did. So people should be careful what they say it can come back to haunt them.
Perhaps and I believe, Greg was a better cyclist than Lance for one tour. A magnificent achievement. Many cyclist began to suspect something was not right with Lance's performance after his third victory. Especially when his involement with quack docters was exposed.

Having said this, remembering Lance's medical problems, he should be remembered as an athelete who pushed the limit. Still a great cyclist. Many before him and after have done the same. It all comes down to the pressure of the sponsers in the end. Sad really, they always corrupt sportsmen for thier own greed. Never ridden a bike in thier lives. C'est vie.
Regis Le cycliste

Poussan, France

#14 Aug 24, 2012
turtle wrote:
this will go on and on and on. depressing that he has not admitted his guilt,
Always a difficult thing to do.
Go Armstrong

Torrance, CA

#15 Aug 24, 2012
Learn how to speak English.
Go Armstrong

Torrance, CA

#16 Aug 24, 2012
Talking to Laurent: He's going to tell his kids that he was attacked for being a great cyclist and dominating his sport. Just because someone is dominant doesn't mean they're doping.
inheatwillyouche at

Bryn Mawr, PA

#18 Aug 24, 2012
Pat wrote:
The USADA is a disgusting self-serving organisation staffed by people who's sole objective is to chop sportspeople down. I have no doubt whatsoever that USADA has acquired evidence by fair means or foul and have been well aware that they would win out in the end because they could fight longer than Lance ever could.
I watched hours and hours of Tour de France on TV over the past 12 years and I am convinced that Lance Armstrong is a true champion. A cancer survivor who succeeded at the highest level of one of the toughest sports in the world. There may well have been an instance (or two) of doping but that has NEVER been proved. Take comments by Armstrong's team mates with a grain of salt. They have much to gain by outing him, and who could believe anything Floyd Landis says for example. In the absence of real proof, stripping Lance of his titles is a travesty, and I very much doubt the USADA has the power to do that anyway. What sticks in my mind is that Lance has been drug tested more than any other athlete on the planet and publicly, at least, he has never failed. Now the authorities are making an issue about a so-called positive test in 2009 when Lance returned to the tour with nothing to prove.
One thing I do know. The Tour de France was exciting when Lance was racing and without him the tour has been a long bore.
I think Lance doped but how does a US based organization strip Lance of his European titles? Is there reciprocal agreement between cycling governing bodies? Do they follow suit of an organization/governing body in a different country ie grant them unquestioned powers and/or credibility?

If the US wants to ban him from US cycling and events or strip him or US titles/teams he qualified for fine. But how does the US tell France what to do?
Regis Le cycliste

Poussan, France

#19 Aug 24, 2012
Go Armstrong wrote:
Learn how to speak English.
Est que vous ou moi???
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#20 Aug 24, 2012
We observed a very questionable legal process during the USADA vs Floyd Landis trial there in California, which many lawyers came out criticising.

Now we have seen how USADA has utilized "Nazi Gestopo" tactics in getting what they wanted all along.

They just proved that they were more interested and willing to waste US Tax dollars in destroying Lance Armstrong then they ever have been interested in doing anything about doping in SPORTS.

Otherwise, why haven't they been attacking all of the other sports here in the United states as well!

Travis Tygart and Dick Pound made to quite up-fornt that they wanted Lance Armstrong totally destroyed and they got waht they wanted.

If you US cycling fans are really pissed off about this, then all you have to do is contact your US Congressmen and US Senators, while raising pure hell about how the USADA wasted all that money, while they never really accomplished anything in battling Illegel Doping!

Or are you just going to sit on your butts again and allow USADA to get away with this and then what will they do next!
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#21 Aug 24, 2012
Here is how you can conntact your represenatives!

contactingthecongress.org/
inheatwillyouche at

Bryn Mawr, PA

#22 Aug 24, 2012
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas wrote:
Here is how you can conntact your represenatives!
contactingthecongress.org/
Why should congress be contacted again? This is a voluntary sport in which a competitor agrees abide the laws and rulings of the governing body.

I'd support a congressional actions if it led to the apprehension and conviction of illegal drug dealers(which is what the baseball investigation should've been). Where there is illegal doping there is illegal drug dealing, practicing medicine without a license and corruption. But congress or any other government body should NOT be governing private voluntary sports or challenging their rulings unless there is an actual civil rights violation.
Gus

Vancouver, Canada

#23 Aug 25, 2012
Wang wrote:
<quoted text>
But he did dope.
...you are STUPID...WANGker!

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