Columnist has no appreciation for spo...

Columnist has no appreciation for sport of cycling

There are 13 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Aug 1, 2008, titled Columnist has no appreciation for sport of cycling. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

Joel Stein's " No doping, no drama " commentary on the Tour de France is among the most offensive pieces of journalism that I have had to endure from The Chicago Tribune.

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Euro Peloton

United States

#2 Aug 1, 2008
I couldn't agree more with this article. Mr. Stein obviously isn't an informed cycling fan. To say the things he did telegraphs the fact that he views cycling from the eyes of an American sports fan. American sports are so rife with doping (football, baseball, basketball) that Americans are used to seeing a superhuman display of athleticism.

Taking football for instance, any time a human that weighs 375 pounds can run the forty yard dash faster than 5.0 seconds, they are doping. The problem is, Americans don't want clean sports. They want to see hulking giants destroy each other week to week. They want to see 500 foot home runs. So the testing is lacking, the sponsors and investors remain mollified, and the American sport machine rolls on.

Cycling is trying to put out a legit product, a product that is pure. Sure, there will be problems along the way and there will always be cheats, but that doesn't mean you don't fight the good fight. True cycling fans know this, while Amercanized fans will never understand.
Michael Laurence

Waianae, HI

#3 Aug 2, 2008
I agree with Stein.
John Jones

Singapore, Singapore

#4 Aug 2, 2008
Down with Stein.
Clean sports good.
Doped sports bad.
Why do you think they call it dope?

Port Jefferson Station, NY

#5 Aug 2, 2008
I wholehearted agree with Stein as well.
He hits mostly right on the head.

I love cycling, and all different kinds of stick & ball sports. I do appreciate the heard work and dedication most athletes put in but I want to see superhuman efforts as well, no matter what it takes. I could care less about doping.


#6 Aug 2, 2008
Mr Higgins, you hit it right on the head. Thank you for posing such an eloquent article.
Tim Kelly

Reading, PA

#7 Aug 2, 2008
Ah. A newspaper columnist saying something to sell papers, what a novel idea. If it means anything to "readers" out there, his opinion doesn't mean anymore than anyone else's. The only difference is he gets paid to sound foolish, small consolation. Easy answer, write him off and get on with your day.
David Streever

New Haven, CT

#8 Aug 3, 2008
It's good to comment.

Newspapers DO work on sales, so when readers are unhappy with foolish in them, it's good to make a comment. Especially in such an eloquent way.

Kudos Mr Higgins. I agree 100%.

Seattle, WA

#9 Aug 3, 2008
I agree with Mr. Higgins 100% as well.

The sport of cycling should not be punished for the fact that they go to much greater extents than other sports to test and retest their athletes for performance enhancing drugs.

Someone in an earlier comment said: "I want to see superhuman efforts as well, no matter what it takes". Once people start thinking like that, sports are no longer pure. Now it's just one big science experiment. And once it becomes a science experiment, the real athletes who choose to just use straight up hard work to improve get lost in mix. They no longer get rewarded for their dedication. That's no longer "sports" to me.

Waianae, HI

#10 Aug 3, 2008
If Mr. Stein does not come up with a valid response to this, one of the best articles I have EVER read, he should be reported to the columnist union. Maybe these so-called "sports experts" should pull their heads out of the sand and see the things that Robert, and many Tour fans are seeing. And while Joel Stein is spouting radical ideas, maybe I should put up a radical idea of my own: "FIRE STEIN AND REPLACE HIM WITH ROBERT! THAT WAY, WE WILL READ THE EDUCATED OPINION OF A MAN WITH A BRAIN!"

(Sorry, I don't use caps all the time, trust me.)

South Ozone Park, NY

#11 Aug 3, 2008
Stein thinks he's so-o-o slick. I call it oily.

Arlington, VA

#12 Aug 5, 2008
Almost as boring as the race itself.

Asheboro, NC

#13 Aug 6, 2008
I suppose, as Stein and some of you on this bb suggest, that we could just throw out the doping regulations and let riders take whatever they want. And then I guess we would have to alter who we are really cheering for. I mean, the riders would really just be the vehicles for drugs and the scientists who created these drugs. Wouldn't we then have to cheer for the scientists/doctors who made and prescribed the drugs (ie. Go Dr. Frankenstein's monster!!..Go Dr. Fuentes' creation). It would really only make sense then for these doctors to stand on the podium at the end of a stage win, maybe with their riders kneeling in front of them while they pat them on the head and give them treats and praise.

Arvada, CO

#14 Jul 21, 2009
Mr. Stein should stick to baseball. There is plenty for him to write regarding doping right there in his own backyard. He is obviously an uninformed, outdated moron.

Thanks "Euro Peloton" for so convienently grouping all Americans in one concise little nutshell for the rest of us to enjoy. Aren't you as happy when you are grouped into a generalized little cover-all category? Yes, all Americans are identically same with exactly the same thoughts and feelings as any other random American from anywhere else on the North or South American continent. You seem to be as shallow as our Mr. Stein.

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