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Armstrong Lawyers Say USADA Offering Riders Deals

There are 159 comments on the WBZ-TV story from Aug 2, 2010, titled Armstrong Lawyers Say USADA Offering Riders Deals. In it, WBZ-TV reports that:

Share + Aug 2, 2010 3:54 pm US/Eastern JIM VERTUNO, AP Sports Writer AUSTIN, Texas Lance Armstrong's attorneys say the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency is offering cyclists a "sweetheart deal" if they testify or provide evidence that the seven-time Tour de France winner cheated by doping.

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Since: May 10

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#145 Aug 12, 2010
Phil Gray wrote:
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I think Drewy boy has a learning disability, HE CAN'T LEARN.
I posted a message about drewy boy for a few Americans to read. I suspect it will not take long for them to start posting on his threads.
These people HATE terrorist sympathizers like Drewy boy, especially ones who proclaim that America got what they deserved by every Muslim attack since the assassination of Robert Kennedy to include 9/11.
Perhaps Zenmud would have felt differently if he lost friends and family in 9/11. Bet he soils their memory and loss even more by claiming he did.
Phil Gray

Hendersonville, NC

#147 Aug 12, 2010
This is just one patriot thread of those who served.

I might even take out an add in his local newspaper accusing him of being a terrorist sypathizers. From previous post it wouldn't be too hard to convince them I hope none of them find you, heh heh

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#148 Aug 12, 2010
Phil Gray wrote:
This is just one patriot thread of those who served.
I might even take out an add in his local newspaper accusing him of being a terrorist sypathizers. From previous post it wouldn't be too hard to convince them I hope none of them find you, heh heh
Wicked.
Phil Gray

Hendersonville, NC

#149 Aug 12, 2010
SpeakBimbo wrote:
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Wicked.
I wonder if drewy boy knows what wicked means "you know the area"

“crystelZENmud”

Since: Jan 07

Reality City

#150 Aug 13, 2010
Conspiring to harass???

nice: TPX allows anything...

ZENjuris

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#151 Aug 13, 2010
Phil Gray wrote:
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I wonder if drewy boy knows what wicked means "you know the area"
You are right I used it as slang and I doubt "drewy boy" knows what it means.
Phil Gray

Hendersonville, NC

#152 Aug 13, 2010
Phil Gray wrote:
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I wonder if drewy boy knows what wicked means "you know the area"
Now ole Drewy boy says we are consirering to harass, LMAO. isn't that what he does with his blog. Funny is i have no contact with you other than on topix. While Drewy boy uses his blog to crodinate individuals to harass others.

Yea there is only a certain part of the country who uses the term. New England one of them. I did live in New Hamshire and massacheutts for awhile. Survived the blizard of 76. when All major highways were crippled. I-90, I 95, I 128 I 125

Was a real mess they actuall closed the state down for almost 30 days that year I rmemeber them recusing those stranded with snowmobiles.

“Carpe Diem”

Since: Mar 07

Bristol UK

#153 Aug 17, 2010
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#154 Aug 17, 2010
Athos wrote:
http://perezhilton.com/2010-08 -05-lance-armstrong-drug-inves tigation-heats-up
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/05/lanc...
I will be glad when this event begins and see if any lessons have been learned!

“crystelZENmud”

Since: Jan 07

Reality City

#155 Aug 17, 2010
Sigh...

MOeP we seem to have come 'full-circle', back to 2007, when we dared wILL to prove any of his statements!

Only four people really know if Lance doped:

himself,
doctor,
supplier/agent,
wife

I haven't seen (this crosses from 'Floyd' to Lance) any CERTAIN 'knowledge-holder' stepping forth to say:

"here's Lance's canceled check, with the words 'For EPO June 20th 1999'"

Or "here's a syringe I saved from 1999, with the EPO inside and Lance's fingerprints on it..."

Have you all forgotten the allegation that 'French Police' had 'seized' some 'medically-associated products' from 'the hotel in which Astana stayed' on 'certain dates' of last year's Tour?

That there was 'a likelihood' that Lance's team 'had perhaps violated rules'(not to mention the 'medical waste removal contractor, whose negligence in disposal allowed for such allegations in the first place), and that 'Pierre Bordry and the French Police' would have a 'major investigation' underway...

Pfffffffffffft!!!
(Sound of a tire, or investigation, going flat! heh heh)

We're also waiting, for those of us with a memory, for the 'Floyd Hacking Case' to become more than a myth...

ZENknows
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

United States

#156 Aug 18, 2010
Actually we could shorten that list somewhat:

Lance
Doctor
Agent/Supplier

A rider doesn't always include thier spouse in this behavior!

I did find the UCI aticle interesting.

Cheers
SpeedyPete

South Africa

#157 Aug 18, 2010
I may buy the stuff, which was "prescribed" by my doctor, from an agent/supplier but only I will know whether I've actually used it. How can doctor or supplier proof after all these years that I've really used the stuff.

I'm not arguing, I'm asking.
Phil Gray

Hendersonville, NC

#158 Aug 18, 2010
SpeedyPete wrote:
I may buy the stuff, which was "prescribed" by my doctor, from an agent/supplier but only I will know whether I've actually used it. How can doctor or supplier proof after all these years that I've really used the stuff.
I'm not arguing, I'm asking.
Perhaps Forensic Science.
Phil Gray

Hendersonville, NC

#159 Aug 18, 2010
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas wrote:
Actually we could shorten that list somewhat:
Lance
Doctor
Agent/Supplier
A rider doesn't always include thier spouse in this behavior!
I did find the UCI aticle interesting.
Cheers
Do yo9u have a link to the article

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#160 Aug 18, 2010
SpeedyPete wrote:
I may buy the stuff, which was "prescribed" by my doctor, from an agent/supplier but only I will know whether I've actually used it. How can doctor or supplier proof after all these years that I've really used the stuff.
I'm not arguing, I'm asking.
Your question is valid and makes a good point. Without the support of a "drug test" showing the present of the drug in the system how could one prove that the person in questioned used it as stated.

However, there can be a reasonable assumption that a person would use what they were prescribed and purchased. Just saying.

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#161 Aug 18, 2010
Phil Gray wrote:
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Perhaps Forensic Science.
Even if drug use doesn't show up in a blood test it can show up in a test done on the "hair". However, if the hair is kept short that is not always an option either.

The problem with blood test is many drugs dissipate in the blood stream within a few days of use, so that many can use the drug, but not test positive for it. It's why random drug testing is most effective.
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#162 Aug 18, 2010
SpeedyPete wrote:
I may buy the stuff, which was "prescribed" by my doctor, from an agent/supplier but only I will know whether I've actually used it. How can doctor or supplier proof after all these years that I've really used the stuff.
I'm not arguing, I'm asking.
The process involved with some of the doping may require a doctor doing it for safety reasons Pieter.

As for the agent or supplier, someone has to give the drugs to the rider.

But, by your questions Pieter, you show us that this whole process is a mess. And I believe that we had seen expamles of that mess a while back.

Cheers
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#163 Aug 18, 2010
Phil Gray wrote:
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Do yo9u have a link to the article
Here you go Phil Gray

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/cycling/2010-0...

“crystelZENmud”

Since: Jan 07

Reality City

#164 Aug 20, 2010
SpeedyPete wrote:
I may buy the stuff, which was "prescribed" by my doctor, from an agent/supplier but only I will know whether I've actually used it. How can doctor or supplier proof after all these years that I've really used the stuff.
I'm not arguing, I'm asking.
Good question, SpeedyP...'possession is nine-tenths of the law' they used to say...

One reason that WADA has its ambiguously-worded 'eight-year' rule?

heh heh

zenTired

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