Cycling Teams Urge Phonak Suspension

Cycling Teams Urge Phonak Suspension

There are 23 comments on the The Associated Press story from Aug 17, 2006, titled Cycling Teams Urge Phonak Suspension . In it, The Associated Press reports that:

Seventeen of cycling's top teams asked the governing body to consider suspending Phonak from the Pro Tour following Floyd Landis' positive doping tests.

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Will

United States

#1 Aug 21, 2006
This call by the majority of the teams for action against the most egregious teams is a big step in the right direction; the majority of teams apparently realize that purging the sport of widespread doping is in their own self-interest.
Raymond

Béziers, France

#2 Aug 21, 2006
Will wrote:
This call by the majority of the teams for action against the most egregious teams is a big step in the right direction; the majority of teams apparently realize that purging the sport of widespread doping is in their own self-interest.
Will, Yet again you speak with reason and clarity. We all want a clean sport and as you are aware, the Tdf and other tours over many years have always wanted just THAT.

Where there has been a problem with doping the Tours have stamped on it, regardless of nationality. The UCI is the governing body, they rely on analysis from acredited labs and lets face it a lab is a lab.

Sorry Will but I go back to an earlier thread.

If the lab finds evidence of dope in French or Europeon riders, that is cheating. For some Americans it is automaticaly a conspirosy. sic.
Raymond

Béziers, France

#3 Aug 21, 2006
Sorry comma between Americans and it.

Americans,itis
john cocktoasten Ohio

United States

#4 Aug 23, 2006
Raymond wrote:
Sorry comma between Americans and it.
Americans,itis
Conspiracy not conspirosy (try spellcheck if you want to appear intelligent)
Raymond

Vitrolles, France

#5 Aug 23, 2006
john cocktoasten Ohio wrote:
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Conspiracy not conspirosy (try spellcheck if you want to appear intelligent)
Thanks for your input. If you wish I could provide my comments in French
Lloyd

Independence, MO

#6 Aug 23, 2006
Will wrote:
This call by the majority of the teams for action against the most egregious teams is a big step in the right direction; the majority of teams apparently realize that purging the sport of widespread doping is in their own self-interest.
Such a noble idea! Alas, it has been announced that Phonak and Astana have been given the green light to participate in the Tour of Spain. Is anyone really serious about cleaning up cycling? It seems like there's a lot of talk but no serious commitment to rectify the problem.
Raymond

Vitrolles, France

#7 Aug 23, 2006
Uniquely for you. Regards Raymond
Lloyd

Independence, MO

#8 Aug 23, 2006
john cocktoasten Ohio wrote:
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Conspiracy not conspirosy (try spellcheck if you want to appear intelligent)
John,

Was that comment really necessary? Did it have anything to do with this forum? If you don't want to appear to be an a**hole, don't act like an a**hole!
Raymond

Vitrolles, France

#9 Aug 23, 2006
Lloyd wrote:
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John,
Was that comment really necessary? Did it have anything to do with this forum? If you don't want to appear to be an a**hole, don't act like an a**hole!
Cher Lloyd, Merci bien, vous avez raison. Raymond
TrustButVerify

Redwood City, CA

#10 Aug 24, 2006
Well, it's all irrelevant anyway, because the UCI decided it was going to let Phonak and Astana roll on for the rest of the season.
hey

AOL

#11 Aug 24, 2006
hey homie people how yall be's"?
hey

AOL

#12 Aug 24, 2006
buenos dios amigos, no habla frances, pero mi hablo espanol por que yo soy mexican. mucho amor
white chracka on a roll

AOL

#13 Aug 24, 2006
HEY GUYS I HAVE A BELLY BUTTON
Will

United States

#14 Aug 24, 2006
...now, in the words of the Scarecrow, if you only had a brain....
ricky rider

AOL

#15 Aug 24, 2006
Okay, Ive been reading all these posts since the hammer came down on Floyd. It's a shame, but it certainly appears that he doped for stage 17. However, in spite of the the bombast of Will, those who are interested in cycling and the truth (not necessarily in that order) ought to quit passing judgment and await the outcome of the judicial process. I know, it's just so easy to jump on Floyd and tar & feather him right now. That's cool, it is so southern to grab onto what the sheriff done said and lynch the mofo as soon as we can get a rope over the branch of the nearest weepin' willow tree. We just love to get justice served and git on to the next thing quick as we can. However, there has been enough doubt cast on the integrity of the lab that an outside, objective arbiter of the truth should be called in. If Floyd dosed, he should be hosed, but we don't know that for sure yet. If he didn't, well then, Will ought to be brought up on charges fo jumping to conclusions and being way too much of a redneck cracker.
Will

United States

#16 Aug 24, 2006
...from your lips to God's ear, ricky/hey/scarecrow; not that I expect you to grasp it, but for the others out there who get subtle distinctions, Landis is not "on trial" anywhere, certainly not here on this discussion forum, and ANYTHING you and I and anybody else here says, doesn't mean SQUAT to the people at USADA or the eventual arbitrators at the NACAS or the CAS, who'll actually DECIDE on issues regarding Landis.

So, I reckon, you can keep on a-jawbonin' til it's pert near time fer the cows to come home, and I'll keep on a-callin fer em to hang em high, cuz nothin we sez MEANS a daggone thing, now DO it?
Zeek

Lake Stevens, WA

#17 Aug 24, 2006
"...nothin we sez MEANS a daggone thing, now DO it?"

For once we agree
Will

United States

#18 Aug 25, 2006
Then, can we agree on this: a previously-mentioned but little-discussed scenario is that Landis MAY have had an autologous IV blood transfusion--blood from his "own organism" which had been banked previously and was used after the stage 16 bonk to hasten recovery, except that this banked blood may have been taken during an out-of-competition "cycle" of synthetic T, resulting in the positive IRMS test and posibly explaining the diluted or "low" epitestosterone reading.
Zeek

Lake Stevens, WA

#19 Aug 26, 2006
Will wrote:
Then, can we agree on this: a previously-mentioned but little-discussed scenario is that Landis MAY have had an autologous IV blood transfusion--blood from his "own organism" which had been banked previously and was used after the stage 16 bonk to hasten recovery, except that this banked blood may have been taken during an out-of-competition "cycle" of synthetic T, resulting in the positive IRMS test and posibly explaining the diluted or "low" epitestosterone reading.

No
Will

Waterford, MI

#20 Sep 1, 2006
...did you just hear something?......

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