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The Women Who Unraveled the Lance Armstrong Doping Scandal

There are 50 comments on the ABC News story from Oct 13, 2012, titled The Women Who Unraveled the Lance Armstrong Doping Scandal. In it, ABC News reports that:

Frankie Andreu, left, his wife Betsy and his teammate Lance Armstrong are seen in this 1995 image released by the USADA as a part of Betsy Andreu's affidavit.

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“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

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#1 Oct 13, 2012
What a sad situation and disgrace.
Lance Armstrong, I believed you and the lack of evidence supported you for quite some time.
NO MORE sir.
You're a disgrace.

You can not even hold a candle to Marion Jones now. At least she had the sack to speak up on her own.
She has more balls than your infected ones son. Grow up.
GeeMan

Stockport, UK

#2 Oct 13, 2012
Andreu testimony dismissed in 2006 case as unreliable. This is old news and rest if file is no earlier than2010 and already issued. Don't believe the Hype

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

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#3 Oct 13, 2012
GeeMan wrote:
Andreu testimony dismissed in 2006 case as unreliable. This is old news and rest if file is no earlier than2010 and already issued. Don't believe the Hype
What hype?
GeeMan

Broxburn, UK

#4 Oct 14, 2012
USADA said lots of new evidence and I donít see anything after 2010, do you?

UCI covered up positive test and we shall expose it said Tygart but not in the report!

Betsy watched her man dope for years as a rider taking the blood money and then watched him join USPS as a Directeur taking the blood money. She says Vaughters stood by here but doesnít say he threw her under the Bus in 2005 when he gave Armstrong a signed affidavit that he knew nothing about LA doping.

Levi notary is Hamiltonís ex wife and her partner is attorney to 2 other riders.

This is the same evidence that FDA had in 2010 to 2012 when they dropped the Fraud case against LA for doping.

Tygart says itís a case to clean up US Cycling not a witch hunt against Armstrong but he failed to strip Hamilton of his 2004 gold medal and IOC had to do it for them before the 8 years were up this year. He doesnít say why after 2010 he had testimony from all these riders that they doped and said Armstrong did as well that he allowed doping athletes to continue to ride and take wages and sponsors money and prize money when his Code says he MUST report it and act on it. That doesnít look like he is cleaning Cycling up it looks like a witch hunt.
Itís the biggest doping scandal in the history of sport, really? East Germans, USSR, Romanian National Programs for all athletes donít appear to be bigger. Gymnasts made pregnant and have it aborted on purpose to enhance their physiology must be more palatable than this? Ice Dancer trying to murder opposition not a big issue?

Anyone want to point out what crime Armstrong has committed?
Hamilton, Landis serial perjury, Landis Fraud, Vaughters perjury, Hincapie trafficking drugs to US are some against the Confessors?

Tygart should be done for Plagiarism for copying Hamiltonís book.

The morality of this matter is bankrupt from all sides and for those who want to claim that end justifies the means better hope that it doesnít turn up on their doorstep against them in the future because you should always be careful what you hope for.

Itís not news there is doping in cycling itís been there since it began and we all know about it. Armstrong did not invent EPO doping it was done by Medical Advisors such as Conconi who schooled Ferrari etc in it.
Skiing banned EPO in 88 because it was so widely used but not other Sports or IOC.

Donít be a dope and buy into the Hype and donít be naive to believe a case is based on a prosecution case which this is.

Finally ask yourself why did USADA not accept to have a hearing in Judge Sparks Court with all Panel Members chosen by him instead of by Tygart himself which Sparks said had serious constitutional issues?
Why did USADA say to Armstrong your constitutional rights are not applicable in this case and then claim that the +8 years is based on US Law! It appears that US Law is the Devine access to USADA but not athletes! I am sure I heard that mantra before with Stalin and Hitler, maybe not!

Is it everything its Hyped up to be or not?

Is the whole case morally bankrupt or not?
turtle

Huddersfield, UK

#5 Oct 14, 2012
GeeMan wrote:
USADA said lots of new evidence and I donít see anything after 2010, do you?
UCI covered up positive test and we shall expose it said Tygart but not in the report!
Betsy watched her man dope for years as a rider taking the blood money and then watched him join USPS as a Directeur taking the blood money. She says Vaughters stood by here but doesnít say he threw her under the Bus in 2005 when he gave Armstrong a signed affidavit that he knew nothing about LA doping.
Levi notary is Hamiltonís ex wife and her partner is attorney to 2 other riders.
This is the same evidence that FDA had in 2010 to 2012 when they dropped the Fraud case against LA for doping.
Tygart says itís a case to clean up US Cycling not a witch hunt against Armstrong but he failed to strip Hamilton of his 2004 gold medal and IOC had to do it for them before the 8 years were up this year. He doesnít say why after 2010 he had testimony from all these riders that they doped and said Armstrong did as well that he allowed doping athletes to continue to ride and take wages and sponsors money and prize money when his Code says he MUST report it and act on it. That doesnít look like he is cleaning Cycling up it looks like a witch hunt.
Itís the biggest doping scandal in the history of sport, really? East Germans, USSR, Romanian National Programs for all athletes donít appear to be bigger. Gymnasts made pregnant and have it aborted on purpose to enhance their physiology must be more pala
Anyone want to point out what crime Armstrong has committed?
Hamilton, Landis serial perjury, Landis Fraud, Vaughters perjury, Hincapie trafficking drugs to US are some against the Confessors?
Tygart should be done for Plagiarism for copying Hamiltonís book.
The morality of this matter is bankrupt from all sides and for those who want to claim that end justifies the mea
Skiing banned EPO in 88 because it was so widely used but not other Sports or IOC.
Donít be a dope and buy into the Hype and donít be naive to believe a case is based on a prosecution case which this is.
Finally ask yourself why did USADA not accept to have a hearing in Judge Sparks Court with all Panel Members chosen by him instead of by Tygart himself which Sparks said had serious constitutional issues?
Why did USADA say to Armstrong your constitutional rights are not applicable in this case and then claim that the +8 years is based on US Law! It appears that US Law is the Devine access to USADA but not athletes! I am sure I heard that mantra before with Stalin and Hitler, maybe not!
Is it everything its Hyped up to be or not?
Is the whole case morally bankrupt or not?
germans !! stalin !! hitler!! my god geeie get a grip.
no, armstrong is morally bankrupt and has been for years, i am not saying that some of the other players in this are any better. There are many guilty in this sordid affair, but la has to be accepted as up there as either the worst or alongside. His bringing to task is right and he deserves nothing less. He had the chance to talk and be honest he chose not too. He knew the consequences of his actions, let it be. He still can not stand up and be honest, he could do right now but we all know he is not going to. irrelevant of if you think its right or not, or like it or not. Others have accepted they did wrong and admitted their guilt. Irrelevant of if you think the lessening of sentences for this is right or wrong. It has precedent. I know you think its big game hunting!, he made himself the big game, if his actions were coerced by others ect ect, then lets here him tell the story if not, he looks morally bankrupt. We would all love the doctors and trainers who coerced and encouraged to go down too. But unless people like la tell the story and explain how this occurred they are defending the people like ferrari and concinni and carmeachle , the best thing la could do is come clean and take everyone complicit down with him
turtle

Huddersfield, UK

#6 Oct 14, 2012
GeeMan wrote:
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Levi notary is Hamiltonís ex wife and her partner is attorney to 2 other riders.
This is the same evidence that FDA had in 2010 to 2012 when they dropped the Fraud cas.
Tygart says itís a case to clean up US Cycling not a witch hunt against Armstrong but he failed to strip Hamilton of his 2004 gold medal and IOC had to do it for them before the 8 years were up this year. He doesnít say why after 2010 he had testimony from all these riders that they doped and said Armstrong did as well that he allowed doping athletes to continue to ride and take wages and sponsors money and prize money when his Code says he MUST report it and act on it. That doesnít look like he is cleaning Cycling up it looks like a witch hunt.
Itís the biggest doping scandal in the history of sport, really? East Germans, USSR, Romanian National Programs for all athletes donít appear to be bigger. Gymnasts made pregnant and have it aborted on purpose to enhance their physiology must be more palatable than this? Ice Dancer trying to murder opposition not a big issue?
Anyone want to point out what crime Armstrong has committed?
Hamilton, Landis serial perjury, Landis Fraud, Vaughters perjury, Hincapie trafficking drugs to US are some against the Confessors?
Tygart should be done for Plagiarism for copying Hamiltonís book.
The morality of this matter is bankrupt from all sides and for those who want to claim that end justifies the means better hope that it doesnít turn up on their doorstep against them in the future because you should always be careful what you hope for.
Itís not news there is doping in cycling itís been there since it began and we all know about it. Armstrong did not invent EPO doping it was done by Medical Advisors such as Conconi who schooled Ferrari etc in it.
Skiing banned EPO in 88 because it was so widely used but not other Sports or IOC.
Donít be a dope and buy into the Hype and donít be naive to believe a case is based on a prosecution case which this is.
Finally ask yourself why did USADA not accept to have a hearing in Judge Sparks Court with all Panel Members chosen by him instead of by Tygart himself which Sparks said had serious constitutional issues?
Why did USADA say to Armstrong your constitutional rights are not applicable in this case and then claim that the +8 years is based on US Law! It appears that US Law is the Devine access to USADA but not athletes! I am sure I heard that mantra before with Stalin and Hitler, maybe not!
Is it everything its Hyped up to be or not?
Is the whole case morally bankrupt or not?
very quickly going out, so apologies for any mistakes and rubbish.
germans !! stalin !! hitler!! my god geeie get a grip.
no, armstrong is morally bankrupt and has been for years, i am not saying that some of the other players in this are any better. There are many guilty in this sordid affair, but la has to be accepted as up there as either the worst or alongside. His bringing to task is right and he deserves nothing less. He had the chance to talk and be honest he chose not too. He knew the consequences of his actions, let it be. He still can not stand up and be honest, he could do right now but we all know he is not going to. irrelevant of if you think its right or not, or like it or not. Others have accepted they did wrong and admitted their guilt. Irrelevant of if you think the lessening of sentences for this is right or wrong. It has precedent. I know you think its big game hunting!, he made himself the big game, if his actions were coerced by others ect ect, then lets here him tell the story if not, he looks morally bankrupt. We would all love the doctors and trainers who coerced and encouraged to go down too. But unless people like la tell the story and explain how this occurred they are defending the people like ferrari and concinni and carmeachle , the best thing la could do is come clean and take everyone complicit down with him
GeeMan

Broxburn, UK

#7 Oct 14, 2012
turtle go find out what facts I have posted are not correct?

I shall wait without holding my breath as you shot from the lip with no understanding other than say what you read and no background into how strong the statements are.

As far as Cycling is concerned I have said it here all the time, thay all doped but if you want to vilify Armstrong as the only 1 go ahead but you have many more who know what it was and is.

This includes journos and sponsors.

Be naive of you want but I live in the real.

Keep spouting the hype and dont try and test the comments and evidence out.

Yu are the kind of person who reads about charges against someone and says GUILTY.

Good job you were not on involved with the Liverpool fans issue at Hillsborough, or were you?

Sometimes you need to dig and keep digging.

I personally have no respect for people who cannot look for sympathy after they have filled their boots and want to blame others.

They sold their souls to the Devil so dont try and defend them or offer sympathy.

Its like the Drugs awareness advert JUST SAY NO but none of them did and all guilty equally.

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

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#8 Oct 15, 2012
TRANSLATION:

Lance Armstrong cheated, was doping, and is now caught. Many others cheated and doped too.
That about right Heeman?
GeeMan

Broxburn, UK

#9 Oct 15, 2012
Aquarius you will see I have posted on here when others didnít agree, and before the USADA file, that everyone was at it.

My issue has been the targeting of 1 athlete whilst saying itís not and bending/breaking rules to catch him.

If you cannot stick to the correct procedures as a watchdog donít expect the athletes to do the same and the focus of 1 case to catch 1 retired athlete and not looking how future cases may be undermined as a result is not appropriate behaviour.

There was huge hype about the file by USADA before it came out and it did not deliver. What was in it is generally correct, I believe, but how you prove it is another matter altogether.

If it was taken into a court where due process is required it would not stand up. This is arbitration which is probable cause but USADA have decided to go for +8 years and rely on US Law and not allow LA the same access under his constitutional rights. I would have been far happier and supportive of USADA if they kept to Article 17 of WADC Rules of 8 years statute of limitations.

I also take issue with sensationalist comments in the file and NOT posting previous indiscretions of those who testified to afford a balanced argument and support their objective view.

They have failed in achieving 'reasoned' approach but you could argue this was their 1st one ever!

I donít argue about doping I have said since day 1 it was everyone but I do take issue with the ends justify the means.

WADA cause is right but they appear to have lost their way a bit and need to regain it for us all to believe in them.
turtle

Huddersfield, UK

#10 Oct 15, 2012
GeeMan wrote:
turtle go find out what facts I have posted are not correct?
I shall wait without holding my breath as you shot from the lip with no understanding other than say what you read and no background into how strong the statements are.
As far as Cycling is concerned I have said it here all the time, thay all doped but if you want to vilify Armstrong as the only 1 go ahead but you have many more who know what it was and is.
This includes journos and sponsors.
Be naive of you want but I live in the real.
Keep spouting the hype and dont try and test the comments and evidence out.
Yu are the kind of person who reads about charges against someone and says GUILTY.
Good job you were not on involved with the Liverpool fans issue at Hillsborough, or were you?
Sometimes you need to dig and keep digging.
I personally have no respect for people who cannot look for sympathy after they have filled their boots and want to blame others.
They sold their souls to the Devil so dont try and defend them or offer sympathy.
Its like the Drugs awareness advert JUST SAY NO but none of them did and all guilty equally.
I am more than happy to see others guilty or admit their involvement. i see this just as equal to la. Your comments on hillsborough are quite disgraceful. As far a sympathy and drugs issue, i have a lot of knowledge in that area and probably show more understanding and sympathy than you think.
GeeMan

Broxburn, UK

#11 Oct 15, 2012
turtle the title has been denied that it is targeting LA and the USADA file title is US Cycling but we see US cyclist riding after confirming doping which means they pick up wages, sponsorship and prize money when they should be banned. Their punishment is 6 months and allowed to ride next year if they have not retired.

Contador got the same because the Spanish President spoke up for him.

I cannot agree with the motive as it doesnít hold water.

There are issues with some of the testimonies but not all them.

Apology for the Hillsborough comment, unnecessary.

I would be happy for the full weight of his indiscretions landed on him but we have an over board proposition that is too loose in some areas to justify. Keep at 8 years and we all are happy.
The forcing others and trafficking drugs is nonsense and when you look at the reliable testimony like Hincapie you see this and a few other older more established riders who donít say he did this which weakens USADA proposition.

Itís a weight issue of land it all on and see what stays in place and I cannot agree with that. Its right or itís not.

I still see this however as test case for WADA to grow longer arms and move beyond the rules in place and there is merit to afford this to them with doping so far ahead.

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

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#12 Oct 17, 2012
GeeMan wrote:
Aquarius you will see I have posted on here when others didnít agree, and before the USADA file, that everyone was at it.
My issue has been the targeting of 1 athlete whilst saying itís not and bending/breaking rules to catch him.
If you cannot stick to the correct procedures as a watchdog donít expect the athletes to do the same and the focus of 1 case to catch 1 retired athlete and not looking how future cases may be undermined as a result is not appropriate behaviour.
There was huge hype about the file by USADA before it came out and it did not deliver. What was in it is generally correct, I believe, but how you prove it is another matter altogether.
If it was taken into a court where due process is required it would not stand up. This is arbitration which is probable cause but USADA have decided to go for +8 years and rely on US Law and not allow LA the same access under his constitutional rights. I would have been far happier and supportive of USADA if they kept to Article 17 of WADC Rules of 8 years statute of limitations.
I also take issue with sensationalist comments in the file and NOT posting previous indiscretions of those who testified to afford a balanced argument and support their objective view.
They have failed in achieving 'reasoned' approach but you could argue this was their 1st one ever!
I donít argue about doping I have said since day 1 it was everyone but I do take issue with the ends justify the means.
WADA cause is right but they appear to have lost their way a bit and need to regain it for us all to believe in them.
Very rarely do the ends justify the means. Very rarely.
I like to call it the ole 'Andy Granatelli Snydrome'. The sport beheads their rightful king - who was crowned in FULL accordance to the rules at the time - to, uh, "save", yeah that's the word, "save" the sport.
It did not "save" Indy Car Racing when they shit canned Andy Granatelli, it killed the very essence of what Indy was and was created to be - a designer's race. This move by the self propelled two wheelers will also prove just as, uh, beneficial to their sport.
Case in point? Me. I will never again waste my time watching any of the Tout de Frame.

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

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#13 Oct 17, 2012
turtle wrote:
<quoted text>
I am more than happy to see others guilty or admit their involvement. i see this just as equal to la. Your comments on hillsborough are quite disgraceful. As far a sympathy and drugs issue, i have a lot of knowledge in that area and probably show more understanding and sympathy than you think.
So, where you into drugs, sympathy, or both then?
<wink>
turtle

Huddersfield, UK

#14 Oct 17, 2012
Aquarius-WY wrote:
<quoted text>
So, where you into drugs, sympathy, or both then?
<wink>

all and everything you could think of both sympathy and inside knowledge. How families , friends and acquaintances blur in a dependent persons life and where that always leads to. dOWN , down and down.
Yet i know and am sure that with others , they can have a hell of a time on their way. Its just a different world perspective to someone who is dependent.

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

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#15 Oct 17, 2012
turtle wrote:
<quoted text>
all and everything you could think of both sympathy and inside knowledge. How families , friends and acquaintances blur in a dependent persons life and where that always leads to. dOWN , down and down.
Yet i know and am sure that with others , they can have a hell of a time on their way. Its just a different world perspective to someone who is dependent.
Spoken like a true subject of the crown.
<wink>

Sorry, the shot was there. There was no harm, so I took it.
turtle

Huddersfield, UK

#16 Oct 17, 2012
Aquarius-WY wrote:
<quoted text>
Spoken like a true subject of the crown.
<wink>
Sorry, the shot was there. There was no harm, so I took it.
Clean as a whistle "Aquarius-WY"\
how i don't know, but my name is in good standing in the borough of w yorks.
NCAdMan

Asheboro, NC

#17 Oct 18, 2012
I think the simple point that GeeMan is trying to make/has made is that USADA threw out due process and has no regard for the the US Constitution which guarantees it. Also, the evidence is all circumstantial...there is plenty of reasonable doubt. For example, let's just say that Lance owed these other cyclist some bonus money and decided not to pay them. Suppose it was a substantial amount. They get together and say "hey, he isn't going to pay us, let's take him down". I am not saying this is the case, but who's to say it didn't. My point being, any number of things could have precipitated their confessions.
I have not read the full USADA report, but what I have read of it is eerily similar to Hamilton's book. As GeeMan pointed out, Hamilton is a perjurer and a doper as are the others that testified against Lance. I believe because they were complicit in doping themselves, anything they say about it is suspect and any lawyer/barrister right out of law school could adequately plant that seed so that any jury would have serious doubts.
But the point is, Lance is not being judged by a jury of his peers as he should be. He is being tried by a guy who has a "hard on" to bring him down with no regard for the law be it traditional law or USADA's mandate. It appears as though Tygart is making up the rules as he goes along to suit his needs. If the law really worked that way, there would be more people in prison than not. Lance was smart not to appeal the ban as passed down by USADA and go into arbitration. The process, as far as cycling is concerned, is futile. I don't know the exact statistics, but it is something like 98% of cycling arbitration cases favor the drug inforcement agency. With those odds, why bother.
The truth of the matter is, Tygart knew he couldn't win his case against Armstrong if he played by the rules, so he took his case to the media. The media has been vilifying Armstrong since the day he returned to cycling, of course they would jump at the chance to bring him down.
And then there is the matter of fighting it. Most people have already made up their minds and the cost would be astronomical. Again, why bother. Lance has his millions and I think he is sticking his middle finger up to the rest of the world saying F*** You! Then he is going to jump on his private jet, fly down to the tropics where no one knows him or cares about what he has done or hasn't done and drink tropical beverages all day. That is what I would do. You can't be bothered by the media if you don't pay any attention to it.
For the record, I am a retired cyclist who knew Lance when he was a teenager just starting out. He was abnormally strong and a tremendous athlete, but a humungous asshole with a huge chip on his shoulder. He had something to prove to the world then and now that he has, I suspect all this other stuff is just white noise. I never imagined he would become the celebrated athlete that he is today, but it doesn't surprise me that the underlying motivator for everything that he does is proving something to the rest of the world.
Also, for the record, there is absolutely zero doubt in my mind that Lance was doping throughout his career. But so wasn't everyone else and in order to beat everyone at their own game, he became better at it. I am convinced that had the playing field been even and had everyone been clean, Lance would have still won 7 Tours.
His name is sullied now, though and regardless of the circumstances, he will always be remembered as the biggest doper in sports. This is not only bad for cycling but bad for every other sport. Like him or not (I can't stand him), Lance put cycling on the map. I had friends who would never have thought about watching the Tour on TV following it like they would Dancing with the Stars. Oddly, they even knew the vernacular. Sans Lance, cycling would be that obscure European sport where grown men wear lycra.
Gus

Vancouver, Canada

#18 Oct 18, 2012
NCAdMan wrote:
I think the simple point that GeeMan is trying to make/has made is that USADA threw out due process and has no regard for the the US Constitution which guarantees it. Also, the evidence is all circumstantial...there is plenty of reasonable doubt. For example, let's just say that Lance owed these other cyclist some bonus money and decided not to pay them. Suppose it was a substantial amount. They get together and say "hey, he isn't going to pay us, let's take him down". I am not saying this is the case, but who's to say it didn't. My point being, any number of things could have precipitated their confessions.
I have not read the full USADA report, but what I have read of it is eerily similar to Hamilton's book. As GeeMan pointed out, Hamilton is a perjurer and a doper as are the others that testified against Lance. I believe because they were complicit in doping themselves, anything they say about it is suspect and any lawyer/barrister right out of law school could adequately plant that seed so that any jury would have serious doubts.
But the point is, Lance is not being judged by a jury of his peers as he should be. He is being tried by a guy who has a "hard on" to bring him down with no regard for the law be it traditional law or USADA's mandate. It appears as though Tygart is making up the rules as he goes along to suit his needs. If the law really worked that way, there would be more people in prison than not. Lance was smart not to appeal the ban as passed down by USADA and go into arbitration. The process, as far as cycling is concerned, is futile. I don't know the exact statistics, but it is something like 98% of cycling arbitration cases favor the drug inforcement agency. With those odds, why bother.
The truth of the matter is, Tygart knew he couldn't win his case against Armstrong if he played by the rules, so he took his case to the media. The media has been vilifying Armstrong since the day he returned to cycling, of course they would jump at the chance to bring him down.
And then there is the matter of fighting it. Most people have already made up their minds and the cost would be astronomical. Again, why bother. Lance has his millions and I think he is sticking his middle finger up to the rest of the world saying F*** You! Then he is going to jump on his private jet, fly down to the tropics where no one knows him or cares about what he has done or hasn't done and drink tropical beverages all day. That is what I would do. You can't be bothered by the media if you don't pay any attention to it.
For the record, I am a retired cyclist who knew Lance when he was a teenager just starting out. He was abnormally strong and a tremendous athlete, but a humungous asshole with a huge chip on his shoulder. He had something to prove to the world then and now that he has, I suspect all this other stuff is just white noise. I never imagined he would become the celebrated athlete that he is today, but it doesn't surprise me that the underlying motivator for everything that he does is proving something to the rest of the world.
Also, for the record, there is absolutely zero doubt in my mind that Lance was doping throughout his career. But so wasn't everyone else and in order to beat everyone at their own game, he became better at it. I am convinced that had the playing field been even and had everyone been clean, Lance would have still won 7 Tours.
His name is sullied now, though and regardless of the circumstances, he will always be remembered as the biggest doper in sports. This is not only bad for cycling but bad for every other sport. Like him or not (I can't stand him), Lance put cycling on the map. I had friends who would never have thought about watching the Tour on TV following it like they would Dancing with the Stars. Oddly, they even knew the vernacular. Sans Lance, cycling would be that obscure European sport where grown men wear lycra.
Brilliant Post...thanx!
Gus

Vancouver, Canada

#19 Oct 18, 2012
Brilliant Post...thanx!
NCAdMan

Asheboro, NC

#20 Oct 19, 2012
Gus wrote:
Brilliant Post...thanx!
You are most welcome...I call it how I see it. Unfortunately, professional cycling took the first hit of many to come today because of this "Lancegate" debacle. Rabobank, who has sponsored cycling teams for 17 years, pulled out of the sport indicating they were doing so because a few of their riders were implicated in the USADA report. It is going to get much worse before it gets better. If Tygart had sat down and really thought about what he was doing, he would have realized that the negative unexpected consequences outweigh bringing Lance's doping to light. It's not like everyone didn't already know. But, because of LiveStrong and all that he has done for cancer research, most of his fans don't care. In essence, Tygart thinks has proven what everyone else already knew. And, there is no doubt in anyone's mind that he was and is still and extraordinary athlete.

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