Landis request for dismissal rejected

Landis request for dismissal rejected

There are 36 comments on the Velonews story from Sep 22, 2006, titled Landis request for dismissal rejected. In it, Velonews reports that:

Floyd Landis will seek a public arbitration hearing after learning his bid to have doping charges against him dismissed had failed, a spokesman for the Tour de France winner said Friday.

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J-Shaffer

United States

#21 Sep 26, 2006
Ok So he is going for hip surgery to train for 2007 Tour, who is going to sponsor him
Will

Woodstock, MD

#22 Sep 26, 2006
J-Shaffer wrote:
Ok So he is going for hip surgery to train for 2007 Tour, who is going to sponsor him
Good question! Probably the same people who are funding his current litigation.
TrustButVerify

Santa Rosa, CA

#23 Sep 26, 2006
If he's cleared, why wouldn't some team want last years champion, who is a free agent.

Will, why not name names? Otherwise it sounds like hypothetical bunk. You raised the funding point once before as if there were some meaning attached to it. How is it in any way relevant to what you are so fond of calling THE FACTS before us?

TBV
twitchy

Madison, WI

#24 Sep 26, 2006
J-Shaffer wrote:
Ok So he is going for hip surgery to train for 2007 Tour, who is going to sponsor him
And if he did get on team would they be allowed to participate in the Tour?

You might not be suprised to find out that Discovery is interested, but you would more likely be suprised to find out that TIAA CREF is interested (JV is way into Floyd). I'm assuming that if Floyd signed up to ride for JV next year it wouldn't be with the intention of going to the Tour next year, but to use 07 as a rebuilding year for Floyd and to further the development of TIAA CREF (we do know that JV wants to get TIAA CREf into the pro tour in the next couple of years).
Will

Woodstock, MD

#25 Sep 26, 2006
TrustButVerify wrote:
If he's cleared, why wouldn't some team want last years champion, who is a free agent.
Will, why not name names? Otherwise it sounds like hypothetical bunk. You raised the funding point once before as if there were some meaning attached to it. How is it in any way relevant to what you are so fond of calling THE FACTS before us?
TBV
The funding point goes directly to Landis' credibility and character -- he may be engaging in creative credit card financing once again, or he may be backed financially by someone else who is legally or ethically suspect.(By the way, do you have any financial or other ties to Landis, TBV?)

And the matter of Landis' current financial backing is a whole lot less speculative than assuming Landis will clear his current doping-violation hurdle, recover from surgery well enough to be competitive, and be desirable for some sponsor to want to pick him up.
TrustButVerify

Redwood City, CA

#26 Sep 26, 2006
Will wrote:
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The funding point goes directly to Landis' credibility and character -- he may be engaging in creative credit card financing once again, or he may be backed financially by someone else who is legally or ethically suspect.(By the way, do you have any financial or other ties to Landis, TBV?)
And the matter of Landis' current financial backing is a whole lot less speculative than assuming Landis will clear his current doping-violation hurdle, recover from surgery well enough to be competitive, and be desirable for some sponsor to want to pick him up.
If ever there were an example of mud slinging, this is it. There is no discussion of data that is in any way relevant or admissable to the discipline case. It is a purely ad-hominem attack.

I'm a stupid computer programmer, with a hobby and sporting interest in biking, and in litigation. I don't know Landis, and have no financial interest. Well, I take that back, I've spent $15.00 on adWords for http://trustbut.blogspot.com which I will shamelessly promote again. Anyone can go there on their own and judge my credibility for themselves.

TBV
Spinning Wheels

Victoria, Canada

#27 Sep 26, 2006
TrustButVerify wrote:
If he's cleared, why wouldn't some team want last years champion, who is a free agent.
TBV
Because it's difficult to race competitively when your bike is laden down with so much baggage. Any team willing to associate themselves with Landis is just asking for a public relations nightmare.
Spinning Wheels

Victoria, Canada

#28 Sep 26, 2006
Perhaps Landis should keep leave the hip as it is. It's the rest of him that needs fixing.
Raymond

Montpellier, France

#29 Sep 27, 2006
Latest Paris. 2 Hours ago:-

Tour de France chief Clerc says Landis cheated.
Raymond

Montpellier, France

#30 Sep 27, 2006
TrustButVerify

Santa Rosa, CA

#31 Sep 27, 2006
Raymond wrote:
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap /2006/09/27/sports/EU_SPT_CYC_ Doping_Landis_Clerc.php
thanks -- linked into today's roundup at http://trustbut.blogspot.com

TBV
Spinning Wheels

Victoria, Canada

#32 Sep 27, 2006
Raymond wrote:
Latest Paris. 2 Hours ago:-
Tour de France chief Clerc says Landis cheated.
This is news?
TrustButVerify

Santa Rosa, CA

#33 Sep 27, 2006
That he's saying it again today it news. Some of the other mouths, like that of Mr. Pound, have recently taken a more "we must let the process take place before we decide" anything approach. Some would say this is because they have seen the evidence, and think their ealier statements may cause them difficulty if they are repeated. Likely Leclerc is not privy to the evidence, so he doesn't know any better.

Is there an alternate explanation for Pound's sudden backpedalling? He's certainly never by shy about shouting "Fire!" in the theater before.

TBV
Spinning Wheels

Victoria, Canada

#34 Sep 27, 2006
We have our own "Tour" up here. The Tour de Rock is a 13-day, 1000 kilometre bike ride down Vancouver Island. The Tour is a fund raising event for the Canadian Cancer Society research into paediatric cancer. Donations can be made on line at www.bc.cancer.ca
The team is made up of 20 police officers drawn from forces throughout the island. Given the professions of those involved, you can bet that doping is not an issue.
Joe

Albany, NY

#35 Sep 27, 2006
Spinning Wheels wrote:
We have our own "Tour" up here. The Tour de Rock is a 13-day, 1000 kilometre bike ride down Vancouver Island. The Tour is a fund raising event for the Canadian Cancer Society research into paediatric cancer. Donations can be made on line at www.bc.cancer.ca
The team is made up of 20 police officers drawn from forces throughout the island. Given the professions of those involved, you can bet that doping is not an issue.
Thanks for the link.
Raymond

Paulhan, France

#36 Sep 28, 2006
Spinning Wheels wrote:
We have our own "Tour" up here. The Tour de Rock is a 13-day, 1000 kilometre bike ride down Vancouver Island. The Tour is a fund raising event for the Canadian Cancer Society research into paediatric cancer. Donations can be made on line at www.bc.cancer.ca
The team is made up of 20 police officers drawn from forces throughout the island. Given the professions of those involved, you can bet that doping is not an issue.
Brilliant, I like it. True sportsmen and cyclists in persuit of a noble cause. No personal agrandishment here. Again magnificent.

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