Up In Tham Thar Colorado Hills

Up In Tham Thar Colorado Hills

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My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

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#1 Nov 22, 2010
Well this time a year that thar snow be coming down thickly and cold as a Beaver's butt.

So, hope all piled up the wood for the winter and such.

There be 22 campsites of the Amigon Logo tribe throughout them thar hills.

They no like anyone who talk with forked tongue. And they no like anyone who abuse women.

“I Love Life, People & Animals”

Since: Feb 07

El Paso, Texas

#2 Nov 23, 2010
Always good to hear from folks from all around who were at the Angelfire Vietnam Memorial last May.

A reunion of familes getting together and celebrate what our country stands for and for all of our friends who were not able to come back along with those who passed away since coming back.

People from, Texas, New Mexico, Colorado, Arizona, Kansas, Oklahoma, who are veterans of WWII, Korean War, Vietnam, Desert Storm, OIF and OEF along with many more who served in all the in between spots.

At the ceremony there were 6 Navaho Code Talkers and that was one great gathering.

Then we had the burning of the flags, where each person came up and shared about a veteran who they knew and threw the flag into the fire. This is the official and only way that a worn out US Flag is allowed to be destroyed. A German Air Force NCO remembered his father from WWII and threw in a tattered German flag.

The computer have taken over from the fires in sending out the smoke signals by communicating with one another through the Internet.

Cheers All

SpeedyPete

Cape Town, South Africa

#3 Nov 26, 2010
Were there any veterans from the Salvation Army as well?
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#4 Nov 26, 2010
SpeedyPete wrote:
Were there any veterans from the Salvation Army as well?
Thank you for reminding me why you and Drew get along so good Pieter.

Cheers
SpeedyPete

Cape Town, South Africa

#5 Nov 27, 2010
My Opinion_El Paso_TX wrote:
Always good to hear from folks from all around who were at the Angelfire Vietnam Memorial last May.
A reunion of familes getting together and celebrate what our country stands for and for all of our friends who were not able to come back along with those who passed away since coming back.
People from, Texas, New Mexico, Colorado, Arizona, Kansas, Oklahoma, who are veterans of WWII, Korean War, Vietnam, Desert Storm, OIF and OEF along with many more who served in all the in between spots.
At the ceremony there were 6 Navaho Code Talkers and that was one great gathering.
Then we had the burning of the flags, where each person came up and shared about a veteran who they knew and threw the flag into the fire. This is the official and only way that a worn out US Flag is allowed to be destroyed. A German Air Force NCO remembered his father from WWII and threw in a tattered German flag.
The computer have taken over from the fires in sending out the smoke signals by communicating with one another through the Internet.
Cheers All
Hello to you Harry! You took me back in time, to when I was still a youngster, doing my military training.

We also have those silly get together, remember the old folks type of thing here in SA. We, as recruits, were forced to attend this "meetings".

So, I could clearly picture you lot there:

A lot of coughing, weezing and farting "old boys", noses red and swolen, cheeks cover with little blue veins, all because of consuming gallons of cheap wine. Uniforms 5 sizes to small, beer bellies straining against the battle dress tops, ties adorned with egg from the mornings breakfast. O, that smell of sweat, mixed with the sour stench of old cheap wine and unwashed feet, I will never forget it!

Harry, I do not understand you "Aericans". You are in the front row when it comes to fighting against earth warming and "soiling" the atmosphere. Yet you start fires on purpose by burning your flags!

And burning a flag, tattered or not, is unforgivable. I mean, if you were living in a civilized country, like Zimbabwe for instance, you would have been killed on the spot!

What a lot of crap you were up to!! And you dare to brag about it!!

No, I rather live in Bushman land than to mix with a lot of double crossing "Aericans".

And what about Iran?!!! And do you know that a country, the size of Aerica, could not beat Vietnam in a war?

What have you got to brag about???

“crystelZENmud”

Since: Jan 07

Reality City

#6 Nov 27, 2010
Type 'Amigon Logo' into Google, and see what you get?

http://tinyurl.com/SmAll-M1nDed-Wa3rts

Does anyone think this is an actual Native American 'tribe'??

ZENjd

“Carpe Diem”

Since: Mar 07

Bristol UK

#7 Nov 27, 2010
SpeedyPete wrote:
<quoted text>
Hello to you Harry! You took me back in time, to when I was still a youngster, doing my military training.
We also have those silly get together, remember the old folks type of thing here in SA. We, as recruits, were forced to attend this "meetings".
So, I could clearly picture you lot there:
A lot of coughing, weezing and farting "old boys", noses red and swolen, cheeks cover with little blue veins, all because of consuming gallons of cheap wine. Uniforms 5 sizes to small, beer bellies straining against the battle dress tops, ties adorned with egg from the mornings breakfast. O, that smell of sweat, mixed with the sour stench of old cheap wine and unwashed feet, I will never forget it!
Harry, I do not understand you "Aericans". You are in the front row when it comes to fighting against earth warming and "soiling" the atmosphere. Yet you start fires on purpose by burning your flags!
And burning a flag, tattered or not, is unforgivable. I mean, if you were living in a civilized country, like Zimbabwe for instance, you would have been killed on the spot!
What a lot of crap you were up to!! And you dare to brag about it!!
No, I rather live in Bushman land than to mix with a lot of double crossing "Aericans".
And what about Iran?!!! And do you know that a country, the size of Aerica, could not beat Vietnam in a war?
What have you got to brag about???
Nice post Pieter, but you are wrong, many of those sweaty old guys that attend, have seen sights that you and I can only have nightmares about, each war has it's own horrors, the 1st WW, thousands killed on the battlefield each DAY and then coming home to a depression. The 2nd WW. Hundreds killed on the battlefield each day. pilots killed in action. Atom bombs killing innocent people. The 'blitz' in England on London, Bristol and Birmingham.
We have Armistice Day here in the UK (LOOK IT UP) on the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month. People who want to pay their respect for the fallen, the injured and those permanently scarrd mentally. Stop, reflect how well off we are now and have 2 minutes silence. Most do. The older I get, the more I respect the forces personnel who give their lives for their (and other) country. Many were forced into it, but they did their bit. BE PROUD OF THEM

“Carpe Diem”

Since: Mar 07

Bristol UK

#8 Nov 27, 2010
SpeedyPete wrote:
<quoted text>
Hello to you Harry! You took me back in time, to when I was still a youngster, doing my military training.
We also have those silly get together, remember the old folks type of thing here in SA. We, as recruits, were forced to attend this "meetings".
So, I could clearly picture you lot there:
A lot of coughing, weezing and farting "old boys", noses red and swolen, cheeks cover with little blue veins, all because of consuming gallons of cheap wine. Uniforms 5 sizes to small, beer bellies straining against the battle dress tops, ties adorned with egg from the mornings breakfast. O, that smell of sweat, mixed with the sour stench of old cheap wine and unwashed feet, I will never forget it!
Harry, I do not understand you "Aericans". You are in the front row when it comes to fighting against earth warming and "soiling" the atmosphere. Yet you start fires on purpose by burning your flags!
And burning a flag, tattered or not, is unforgivable. I mean, if you were living in a civilized country, like Zimbabwe for instance, you would have been killed on the spot!
What a lot of crap you were up to!! And you dare to brag about it!!
No, I rather live in Bushman land than to mix with a lot of double crossing "Aericans".
And what about Iran?!!! And do you know that a country, the size of Aerica, could not beat Vietnam in a war?
What have you got to brag about???
Don't knock the Americans to much about fighting in Vietnam, leave that to some prominant so called celebreties in the USA
here is a piece (from the web) about the other countries involved. Where were the countries from the African countries whome we support with our cash?
Here goes: As far as who else was fighting along with U.S. troops, you had the other members of SEATO (treaty that called for defense of other members in Asia). Allies of the United States included: Australia, New Zealand, South Korea, Philippines, and Thailand.
Germany had the second largest contingent of "allied" troops (approx. 50,000), followed by Australia (approx. 7,000). Of course, you also had the South Vietnamese Army (ARVN).
Italy was also supported by the Montagnard tribes in Southeast Indochina.
Of course, prior to US involvement, France was fighting the communist rebels in Vietnam (their former colony).
On the other side was North Vietnam and the "Vietcong," which were communist rebels in South Vietnam.
North Vietnam received substantial military support from China and the Soviet Union, although these two countries did not officially have troops fighting in Vietnam.
Also sucked into the larger conflict was Cambodia and Laos.(both countries had their own civil wars going on).
Here is more input:
As we know, the battle of Dien Bein Phu in 1954 led to the Geneva Conference. Great losses highlighted the necessity that something had to be done. The conference was convened by North Vietnam and was represented by the Vietminh. The south was represented by Bao Dai and cambodia, laos, USA, GB, China, USSR and France were also present. As a result of the conference, Laos and Cambodia became independent states. North and south Vietnam were divided into two separate countries and French troops were withdrawn from Vietnam after a cease fire was declared. It was said that a national election would be held after two years but the USA and Saigon (in south Vietnam) believed that the elections would have too much communist influence and refused to let the elections to go ahead. The fear of the domino theory (spread of communism to the rest of asia) encouraged US involvement. ESSENTIALLY, THE USA SUPPORTED THE SOUTH AND CHINA AND USSR SUPPORTED THE NORTH. It was another communist VS capitalist battle

“crystelZENmud”

Since: Jan 07

Reality City

#10 Nov 27, 2010
Hi Speedy,

Do ya feel so much smarter now? Wouldn't you like to check the un-cited source used in the above post?

(from the web)

(close enough?)

ZENfun
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#11 Nov 27, 2010
SpeedyPete wrote:
<quoted text>
1. Hello to you Harry! You took me back in time, to when I was still a youngster, doing my military training.
We also have those silly get together, remember the old folks type of thing here in SA. We, as recruits, were forced to attend this "meetings".
So, I could clearly picture you lot there:
A lot of coughing, weezing and farting "old boys", noses red and swolen, cheeks cover with little blue veins, all because of consuming gallons of cheap wine. Uniforms 5 sizes to small, beer bellies straining against the battle dress tops, ties adorned with egg from the mornings breakfast. O, that smell of sweat, mixed with the sour stench of old cheap wine and unwashed feet, I will never forget it!
2. Harry, I do not understand you "Aericans". You are in the front row when it comes to fighting against earth warming and "soiling" the atmosphere. Yet you start fires on purpose by burning your flags!
3. And burning a flag, tattered or not, is unforgivable. I mean, if you were living in a civilized country, like Zimbabwe for instance, you would have been killed on the spot!
What a lot of crap you were up to!! And you dare to brag about it!!
4. No, I rather live in Bushman land than to mix with a lot of double crossing "Aericans".
5. And what about Iran?!!! And do you know that a country, the size of Aerica, could not beat Vietnam in a war?
What have you got to brag about???
1. So Pieter, when you say you did your military training as a youngster, does that mean you only did the training and then returned home to wrk there in your hometown or did you train and then serve in a South African military unit for a few years?

Whet military occupation did you train for and if you did working in this job, how long did you work in it?

2. You have no knowledge of what US citizens do since you have never visited the US. And we are not like our government either.

The US Congress made it federal law that the only way a US flag can be destroyed is by burning it in a furnace.

3. Your opinion of civilized may not be the same opinion held the world over.

4. Then by all means Pieter, stay there in South Africa. That would be your right to do so. Doesn't look like you have visited many countries on your own continent, much less anywhere else.

5. What about Iran!

Oh, here we go again about Vietnam. Well Pieter, considering that you probably haven't fought in a war, you probably haven't a clue about anything related here.

Have a good day Pieter. Sure looks like you were angry here since your writing showed it.

Cheers
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#12 Nov 27, 2010
ZENmud wrote:
Type 'Amigon Logo' into Google, and see what you get?
http://tinyurl.com/SmAll-M1nDed-Wa3rts
Does anyone think this is an actual Native American 'tribe'??
ZENjd
Of course it's a real tribe mudboy.
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#13 Nov 27, 2010
Athos wrote:
<quoted text>Nice post Pieter, but you are wrong, many of those sweaty old guys that attend, have seen sights that you and I can only have nightmares about, each war has it's own horrors, the 1st WW, thousands killed on the battlefield each DAY and then coming home to a depression. The 2nd WW. Hundreds killed on the battlefield each day. pilots killed in action. Atom bombs killing innocent people. The 'blitz' in England on London, Bristol and Birmingham.
We have Armistice Day here in the UK (LOOK IT UP) on the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month. People who want to pay their respect for the fallen, the injured and those permanently scarrd mentally. Stop, reflect how well off we are now and have 2 minutes silence. Most do. The older I get, the more I respect the forces personnel who give their lives for their (and other) country. Many were forced into it, but they did their bit. BE PROUD OF THEM
As well stated as could be and by one who has a clue.

I don't go around spitting on any veteran from any country because I have a real clue on what they may have experienced and I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

One major reason why I'll always respect Prince Harry for his service to his country. And Prince William is another man who serves his country.

Cheers
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#14 Nov 27, 2010
ZENmud wrote:
Hi Speedy,
Do ya feel so much smarter now? Wouldn't you like to check the un-cited source used in the above post?
(from the web)
(close enough?)
ZENfun
Spoken like a real coward. Just remember that you blamed your father for your not serving in the military and that was way after Vietnam had ended along with our draft ending before the Vietnam war finished.

That's okay Drew, we had plenty of other men take up your slack and serve in our military forces, while you played around.

Cheers mudboy
SpeedyPete

Cape Town, South Africa

#15 Nov 28, 2010
I posted in real anger last night - post #9 - but it was deleted by Topix.

I thank them for doing so!!

I have nothing against memorial services of any kind. I did not mean one word of what I've posted about it.

I'm just angry because OUR forum has been taken over by a bunch of good for nothing hooligans.

I apologize for being rude.

Regards

Pieter

“crystelZENmud”

Since: Jan 07

Reality City

#16 Nov 28, 2010
Speedy, no need to apologize, yet it's accepted anyway.

The 'lynch-mob' mentality, like an enraged dog, thrives on 'fear'... they post incessantly, trying to 'bait' their target(s), and the only 'weapon' in retaliation, that works, is to IGNORE them.

That is why, months ago, when the 'dam broke' and our happy cycling 'brook' was invaded by an onslaught of 'Tsunami-force' flooding (posts off-topic), it was natural that one or two 'caught the fever', and became enablers for the lynch mob.

Staying on topic actually becomes fun, in the midst of flurrries of bullçhit, neverending bullçhit...

ZENnoWorries

“Carpe Diem”

Since: Mar 07

Bristol UK

#17 Nov 28, 2010
ZENmud wrote:
Speedy, no need to apologize, yet it's accepted anyway.
The 'lynch-mob' mentality, like an enraged dog, thrives on 'fear'... they post incessantly, trying to 'bait' their target(s), and the only 'weapon' in retaliation, that works, is to IGNORE them.
That is why, months ago, when the 'dam broke' and our happy cycling 'brook' was invaded by an onslaught of 'Tsunami-force' flooding (posts off-topic), it was natural that one or two 'caught the fever', and became enablers for the lynch mob.
Staying on topic actually becomes fun, in the midst of flurrries of bullçhit, neverending bullçhit...
ZENnoWorries
When were you last on topic. BH At least Speedy realized his error, even though I didn't ask for anappology

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#18 Nov 28, 2010
SpeedyPete wrote:
I posted in real anger last night - post #9 - but it was deleted by Topix.
I thank them for doing so!!
I have nothing against memorial services of any kind. I did not mean one word of what I've posted about it.
I'm just angry because OUR forum has been taken over by a bunch of good for nothing hooligans.
I apologize for being rude.
Regards
Pieter
Pieter, you are just as much at fault as anyone else. Next time ignore the posts you dislike. However, instead of doing that you joined in, encourage it, and were/are just as bad.

BTW Zen has so fully spamed out forum that it is dead. Every think the real problme is Zen. No of course not your to busy making sure outsiders don't learn about your sport. And you wonder why your sport is dying. You act like it is a sport only for the elite few.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#19 Nov 28, 2010
So typical of the whites in South Africa.

“crystelZENmud”

Since: Jan 07

Reality City

#21 Nov 28, 2010
ZENmud wrote:
Type 'Amigon Logo' into Google, and see what you get?
http://tinyurl.com/SmAll-M1nDed-Wa3rts
Does anyone think this is an actual Native American 'tribe'??
ZENjd
http://www.crit-nsn.gov/crit_contents/about/

"About the Mohave, Chemehuevi, Hopi and Navajo Tribes"
****

FEDERALLY RECOGNIZED TRIBES

* Southern Ute Indian Tribe of the Southern Ute Reservation
* Ute Mountain Tribe of the Ute Mountain Reservation (Colorado, New Mexico and Utah)
[...]
PRE-CONTACT COLORADO TRIBES

* Apache.- A number of the Apache bands extended their raids from time to time over the territory of what is now Colorado, but only one of them, the Jicarilla Apache, may be said to have been permanent occupants of any part of the State within the historic period. This tribe is considered under the name Jicarilla below; for an account of the other Apache tribes except the Lipan, see New Mexico. See Texas for the Lipan Apache.

* Arapaho.- The Arapaho hunted and warred over parts of eastern Colorado.(See Wyoming.)

* Bannock.- This tribe and the Shoshoni roamed over the extreme northwestern corner of the State.(See Idaho.)

* Cheyenne.- The same may be said of the Cheyenne as of the Arapaho.(See South Dakota.)

* Comanche.- Like the Arapaho and Cheyenne, this tribe hunted and warred in the eastern parts of the State.(See Texas.)

* Jicarilla Apache.- A Mexican Spanish word, meaning "little basket," given to the tribe on account of the expertness of Jicarilla women in making baskets. Also called:
o Be'-?ai, or Pe?'-ge, Navaho name.
o Kinya-inde, Mescalero name.
o Koop-tagúi, Kiowa name, signifying "mountain Apache."
o Pi'-ke-e-wai-i-ne, Picuris name.
o Tan-nah-shis-en, by Yarrow (1879) and signifying "men of the woodland."
o Tashi'ne, Mescalero name.
o Tinde, own name.
o Tu-sa-be', Tesuque name.
The Jicarilla were one of the so-called Apache tribes, all of which belonged to the great Athapascan linguistic stock, but with the Lipan (see Texas) constituted a group distinct from the Apache proper. Within historic times the homes of the Jicarilla have been in southeastern Colorado and northern New Mexico, though they have ranged into the adjacent parts of Kansas, Oklahoma, and Texas.(See New Mexico.)

** Pre-contact refers to pre-Columbus days**
http://www.aaanativearts.com/tribes-by-states...

Amigon Logo?

Doesn't exist... on the web: perhaps it's a Mental Aberration?

(what else?)

ZENsleuthing

“crystelZENmud”

Since: Jan 07

Reality City

#22 Nov 28, 2010
I'd never double-cross you, Speedy...

Z!
SpeedyPete wrote:
<quoted text>
Hello to you Harry! You took me back in time, to when I was still a youngster, doing my military training.
We also have those silly get together, remember the old folks type of thing here in SA. We, as recruits, were forced to attend this "meetings".
So, I could clearly picture you lot there:
A lot of coughing, weezing and farting "old boys", noses red and swolen, cheeks cover with little blue veins, all because of consuming gallons of cheap wine. Uniforms 5 sizes to small, beer bellies straining against the battle dress tops, ties adorned with egg from the mornings breakfast. O, that smell of sweat, mixed with the sour stench of old cheap wine and unwashed feet, I will never forget it!
Harry, I do not understand you "Aericans". You are in the front row when it comes to fighting against earth warming and "soiling" the atmosphere. Yet you start fires on purpose by burning your flags!
And burning a flag, tattered or not, is unforgivable. I mean, if you were living in a civilized country, like Zimbabwe for instance, you would have been killed on the spot!
What a lot of crap you were up to!! And you dare to brag about it!!
No, I rather live in Bushman land than to mix with a lot of double crossing "Aericans".
And what about Iran?!!! And do you know that a country, the size of Aerica, could not beat Vietnam in a war?
What have you got to brag about???

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