UCI demands Contador disciplinary

UCI demands Contador disciplinary

There are 8 comments on the BBC story from Nov 8, 2010, titled UCI demands Contador disciplinary. In it, BBC reports that:

World cycling body UCI has asked the Spanish federation to begin disciplinary proceedings against Tour de France winner Alberto Contador.

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“crystelZENmud”

Since: Jan 07

Reality City

#1 Nov 11, 2010
Exactly 'how much' is:

"... 400 times less than the 50 picogram benchmark measurement that anti-doping laboratories accredited by Wada must be able to detect."
(from article)

"1 picogram is equal to 10-12 gram or 0.000000000001 gram"
[that's 10 to the 12th power: TPX doesn't do 'superscripted figures'!]
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_1_picogram...
****

So WADA has a benchmark of '50pg' for clenbuterol.

That's 0.000000000050gr

400x less?

(my fractions are stepping on the toes of my 'inverse multiplication' capabilities!)

Damsgaard believes that it is a case of 'transfused blood': Contador may have knowingly taken Clenbuterol in past months, and the 'dilute' percentage comes from intaking some of that transfusion into his body during the Tour.

Bordry thinks he has to wait (article was September 2010):
http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/5844/Contad...

Vasseur takes the chauvinistic angle (paraphrased) "... cycling is ridiculed in the eyes of the World once again… Bravo!”

Anyone want to talk about Floyd?

I could talk about myself forever... but that creates 'a bore': the same exists when talking about someone else: that becomes 'OBSESSION'.

(I think, that it is healthier to 'obsess' about cyclists who win Tours, than cyclists who "live to ski, ski to die..."

ZENwatch
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

United States

#2 Nov 12, 2010
Clenbuterol

1. It's easy to attain anywhere.

2. Side effects are concerning as they can have far long reaching affect.

3. Health issues can hide and reappear at alter stage of life.

The agencies are still not addressing that problem as well as they need to be.

Think I'll check over at "DailyPeleton" forum to see if they have brought up anything better.

Oh Dear Me! Mentioning "DailyPeleton" just pricked my memory about someone here in this forum!!!
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#3 Nov 13, 2010
http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/news/34672...

Interesting that no one has made any comments about finding the evidence of plastic bags used for blood in this case.

Even though this doping test hasn't been fully apporved yet, it is a very good step forward for the drug testers in finding out who may be transfusing their blood for racing benefits.

In all fairness if we are to fight against doping, if Alberto Contodor is found guilty, then he needs to face punishment just like any other rider.

The sad part is that we're not really getting to see what is actually taking place in this case nor are we being allowed to know what all the evidence is.

Cheers
SpeedyPete

Centurion, South Africa

#4 Nov 17, 2010
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas wrote:
The sad part is that we're not really getting to see what is actually taking place in this case nor are we being allowed to know what all the evidence is.
Cheers
Well Harry, you know, as I do, how good Drew is with this type of thing. I'm pretty sure he will provide all the evidence shortly.

Take care!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#5 Nov 17, 2010
SpeedyPete wrote:
<quoted text>
Well Harry, you know, as I do, how good Drew is with this type of thing. I'm pretty sure he will provide all the evidence shortly.
Take care!
LOL. Oops. Slowly ever so slowly, a certain dragon is finding Speedy's sense of humor something to appreciate.

“crystelZENmud”

Since: Jan 07

Reality City

#6 Nov 17, 2010
SpeedyPete wrote:
<quoted text>
Well Harry, you know, as I do, how good Drew is with this type of thing. I'm pretty sure he will provide all the evidence shortly.
Take care!
Yo!

Compliments?! Thank you humbly, humbly...

IT does interest me, when 'analysis methods' are 'advanced'(means: put forward) and discussed, in the media, with that pesky 'not yet authorized' caveat?

When did we ever know that someone 'tested positive!' via a new analysis methodology that hadn't yet been validated and accepted?(one presumes that would be via WADA's Scientific and Medical Committee(s)?)

Oh yeah! 2005... Lance was 'found' to be using EPO six years earlier, because 'research samples -- B' that remained (somewhere, somehow, without any documented, authenticated 'chain of custody'), were used in order to provide 'material' that would be 'analysed' by some 'new process' in development by the staff at France's AFLD.

nice, isn't it, when a Goober-based scientist's (I think of a modern Dr Frankenstein?)'potentially great analysis method', PRE-validation, gets someone's name into the press!

Kinda like:'this thing's better'n RADAR for busting speeders, but we'll not wait for Federal approval of its science! Hurry... here comes a cobalt blue Corvette over yon hilltop!'

ZENjd
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#7 Nov 17, 2010
SpeedyPete wrote:
<quoted text>
Well Harry, you know, as I do, how good Drew is with this type of thing. I'm pretty sure he will provide all the evidence shortly.
Take care!
The only thing that is going to get provided by anyone Pieter is what the newsmedia provides us.

And if there is any science provided here, John isn't here as he was the one who helped us understand that part.

The shame here is this this case isn't open to the public like the Floyd Landis case was. So, we may not may not get all the information in comparison to the last time.

Cheers
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#8 Nov 26, 2010
I keep forgetting that many whom I thought were cyclists, were actualy just "I want to be a cyclist, but I don't want to put the required work in!"

Chris has proven that he's a cyclist and a hiker. And if my estimation is correct, his wife can probably out pace everyone today in this forum.

Gus has proven that he is a cyclist through photos. But, that has also shown him in his physical shape as well and that is pretty good by itself.

Raymond - I'll take his word.

Pieter started out too late in life, but at least we know he's a mountain biker who hasn't really ridden anything real high or tough (real technical).

ZENman the mudboy - Yes, I do believe that he rides a bike and also skiis. I also believe that he was a river guide.

MOEP (Me)- But, then I never claimed to be on the level of these other individuals. But, I have ridden my road bikes and my mountain bike in all types of weather and on all types of geographical landscapes along with various US states and countries. And I took my two children with me on many of those events as well.

Same goes for alpine and nordic (cross country skiing) along with hiking. And hiking was where I excelled in comparison to many others in uniform. Just a shame that military duty had such a physical affect on my feet near my retirement from military service. But, I also shared those experiences with my two children as well.

Cheers

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