Floyd Landis calls pro cycling 'organized crime'

Feb 13, 2013 Full story: KARE-TV Minneapolis 175

Three years after his doping admission exposed the rampant performance-enhancing drug use of Lance Armstrong and other American pro cyclists, Floyd Landis will step back into the bicycle world this spring.

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Regis le cycliste

Calvisson, France

#1 Feb 14, 2013
How very revealing! A criminal exposing crime. I suspect Lance continues to be "on the make". Does he live and pontificate by the American rules? Crime dose pay!!!!
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#2 Feb 14, 2013
Regis le cycliste wrote:
How very revealing! A criminal exposing crime. I suspect Lance continues to be "on the make". Does he live and pontificate by the American rules? Crime dose pay!!!!
Isn't that what your "Vichy Government" did under the Germans during WWII?

I believe that many of them didn't get any real hard sentences from the trials held by the new French government. And many sentences were even reduced, allowing many in serving very little time to no time at all.

With a history like that, one might believe that crimes did pay there in France.

Cheers
Regis le cycliste

Calvisson, France

#3 Feb 15, 2013
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas wrote:
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Isn't that what your "Vichy Government" did under the Germans during WWII?
I believe that many of them didn't get any real hard sentences from the trials held by the new French government. And many sentences were even reduced, allowing many in serving very little time to no time at all.
With a history like that, one might believe that crimes did pay there in France.
Cheers
What has the above to do with cycling?

But! If you insist, what has Guantanamo bay got to do with due process and justice?
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#4 Feb 15, 2013
Regis le cycliste wrote:
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What has the above to do with cycling?
But! If you insist, what has Guantanamo bay got to do with due process and justice?
It's a historical reference to the reality that many commit crimes right out in front of the all too many, yet the all too many either do not see it or rather look the other way.

That is what's basically been taking place within the various cycling federations and governing bodies along with the anti-drug agencies as well. Especially there in the UCI! But, then some of us here have been discussing all of that here since the Floyd Landis case first began back in 2006.

At least we're finally seeing many cyclists coming out and admitting to having doped with illegal drugs. And that some of the federations and cycling teams alogn with more riders are screaming for the Pat McQuaid's head in removel from the UCI.

As for Guantanamo Bay Navel Station there in Cuba, as much as you might bring up an interesting situation for debate, it really would be too useless as neither of us really know all the facts and the whole truth involved here.

I haven't seen nor read the paperwork put together by those in Washington, DC, that established that installation and it's purpose, so I'm not in any position for providing any criticism pro or con. And you certainly are in no better situation then I am as well.

I do however believe that everyone should be allowed and provided legal representation, which the US Consitution mandates for every American citizen and everyone in the United States. Therefore, that shouild also extend to everyone being held there in Guantanamo Bay Navel Station, Cuba.

Always remember that anything illegal being done (long ago) there in Europe, that we Americans (Cousins) are apt to copy you and improve upon it.

If anyone would really have an open mind and could see without blinders, then they really would be able to see the real deal going on within their government along with other governments!

Cheers Everybody
turtle

Huddersfield, UK

#5 Feb 15, 2013
what the !!!! are you talking about !!! this is a cycling forum not a debate forum on history and war !!
please ;leave the history, politics, philosophy and soothsaying to some idiots elsewhere!
You both have written interesting and compelling views about cycling in other threads on this site, debating and expressing your opinions. Without writing utter nonsense; which some contributors on this site seem perpetually to be talking nonsense.
damm!! got to go work !! i am late already !! bye and play fair peeps
Regis le cycliste

Calvisson, France

#6 Feb 15, 2013
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas wrote:
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It's a historical reference to the reality that many commit crimes right out in front of the all too many, yet the all too many either do not see it or rather look the other way.
That is what's basically been taking place within the various cycling federations and governing bodies along with the anti-drug agencies as well. Especially there in the UCI! But, then some of us here have been discussing all of that here since the Floyd Landis case first began back in 2006.
At least we're finally seeing many cyclists coming out and admitting to having doped with illegal drugs. And that some of the federations and cycling teams alogn with more riders are screaming for the Pat McQuaid's head in removel from the UCI.
As for Guantanamo Bay Navel Station there in Cuba, as much as you might bring up an interesting situation for debate, it really would be too useless as neither of us really know all the facts and the whole truth involved here.
I haven't seen nor read the paperwork put together by those in Washington, DC, that established that installation and it's purpose, so I'm not in any position for providing any criticism pro or con. And you certainly are in no better situation then I am as well.
I do however believe that everyone should be allowed and provided legal representation, which the US Consitution mandates for every American citizen and everyone in the United States. Therefore, that shouild also extend to everyone being held there in Guantanamo Bay Navel Station, Cuba.
Always remember that anything illegal being done (long ago) there in Europe, that we Americans (Cousins) are apt to copy you and improve upon it.
If anyone would really have an open mind and could see without blinders, then they really would be able to see the real deal going on within their government along with other governments!
Cheers Everybody
International news quotes "torture", "water boarding" ect. Is this really the American way?
As for following this sad debacle in cycling since 2006. You must already know that Landis, Hamilton, Armstrong are proven liars and cheats. Admittedly alongside others! It is certainly not the sport of my comrades and I!
Regis le cycliste

Calvisson, France

#7 Feb 15, 2013
turtle wrote:
what the !!!! are you talking about !!! this is a cycling forum not a debate forum on history and war !!
please ;leave the history, politics, philosophy and soothsaying to some idiots elsewhere!
You both have written interesting and compelling views about cycling in other threads on this site, debating and expressing your opinions. Without writing utter nonsense; which some contributors on this site seem perpetually to be talking nonsense.
damm!! got to go work !! i am late already !! bye and play fair peeps
You are correct! I apologise on behalf of myself for being drawn into commenting about nonsense. Merci.
Gus

Vancouver, Canada

#8 Feb 15, 2013
Regis le cycliste wrote:
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International news quotes "torture", "water boarding" ect. Is this really the American way?
As for following this sad debacle in cycling since 2006. You must already know that Landis, Hamilton, Armstrong are proven liars and cheats. Admittedly alongside others! It is certainly not the sport of my comrades and I!
you are full of SHIT!
Regis le cycliste

Sommières, France

#9 Feb 17, 2013
Gus wrote:
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you are full of SHIT!
Thank you for your comment! Are you sure cycling is your pastime/sport?
Drumroll

Bathgate, UK

#10 Feb 18, 2013
Put simply Armstrong, Landis, Hamilton, Anquitiel, Merckx et al DOPED. It was what we all knew it was and for anyone on a Grand Tour or on the Classucs circuit who said they were clean that is all LIES.
Cyclists and other Athletes still being caught doping so it continues.
Operation Puerto took over 6 years to get to court and when it did 75% of Athletes let off to save Spain the embarassment. Cycling already under spotlight so just do them and leaves Nadal, Ferrer, Real Madrid, Barcelona just to name a few out of trouble.
What is worse an Athlete being caught or a Government with the help of all the 'Stakeholdes' who should be doing something about it just letting it slide.
Sport is corrupt and most of it exists at the top of its governance.
SICK SICK SICK
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#11 Feb 18, 2013
turtle wrote:
what the !!!! are you talking about !!! this is a cycling forum not a debate forum on history and war !!
please ;leave the history, politics, philosophy and soothsaying to some idiots elsewhere!
You both have written interesting and compelling views about cycling in other threads on this site, debating and expressing your opinions. Without writing utter nonsense; which some contributors on this site seem perpetually to be talking nonsense.
damm!! got to go work !! i am late already !! bye and play fair peeps
Sorry Turtle, but since there really hasn't been much going on in the cycling world, we just off off track a little.

But, when everyone shows a perfect picture here, then we'll behave the same way.

Cheers
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#12 Feb 18, 2013
Regis le cycliste wrote:
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International news quotes "torture", "water boarding" ect. Is this really the American way?
As for following this sad debacle in cycling since 2006. You must already know that Landis, Hamilton, Armstrong are proven liars and cheats. Admittedly alongside others! It is certainly not the sport of my comrades and I!
Since many of us have aleady learned that doping actually started in many sports there in Europe and that many US athletes copied you guys afterwards as well, then you need to quit trying to blow smoke up anyone's butt.

As for international polotics, have you served in the military service of your country of France?

Cheers
Regis le cycliste

Sommières, France

#13 Feb 19, 2013
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas wrote:
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Since many of us have aleady learned that doping actually started in many sports there in Europe and that many US athletes copied you guys afterwards as well, then you need to quit trying to blow smoke up anyone's butt.
As for international polotics, have you served in the military service of your country of France?
Cheers
Please explain! What has this post in common with cycling?
May I suggest "politics NOT polotics".
Your knowledge of cycling and your interlect is reflected in your skills in the English language.
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#14 Feb 19, 2013
Regis le cycliste wrote:
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Please explain! What has this post in common with cycling?
May I suggest "politics NOT polotics".
Your knowledge of cycling and your interlect is reflected in your skills in the English language.
You brought up the topic of water boarding and calling it the American way. I in turn only asked you a very simple question as to wether or not you had served in your country's military service.

Sure looks like tap dancing and back pedaling to me! Actually it looked more like you huridly came to a screaching halt, while scrambling in trying to back pedal as you might be a little timid in answering such a simple question.

If you're going to attack other people, at least try getting your facts straight first. Then at least you don't end up like that Monkey who was wearing a suit, opened his mouth, and removed all doubt.

You don't have the facts anymore then anyone else does simply because the news media has never been interested in attaining the facts, just prefer dramatizing the news to suit themselves along with selling stories.

I do however take your ommission here as your stating that you have never served in the French military forces.

And making one mistake on one word does not make anyone not know various subjects nor themselves or their culture and language.

Cheers
Regis le cycliste

Sommières, France

#15 Feb 19, 2013
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas wrote:
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You brought up the topic of water boarding and calling it the American way. I in turn only asked you a very simple question as to wether or not you had served in your country's military service.
Sure looks like tap dancing and back pedaling to me! Actually it looked more like you huridly came to a screaching halt, while scrambling in trying to back pedal as you might be a little timid in answering such a simple question.
If you're going to attack other people, at least try getting your facts straight first. Then at least you don't end up like that Monkey who was wearing a suit, opened his mouth, and removed all doubt.
You don't have the facts anymore then anyone else does simply because the news media has never been interested in attaining the facts, just prefer dramatizing the news to suit themselves along with selling stories.
I do however take your ommission here as your stating that you have never served in the French military forces.
And making one mistake on one word does not make anyone not know various subjects nor themselves or their culture and language.
Cheers
On a thread about doping/cycling! You continue to mention the military! Why? Is this significant???????? If so, please explain!

Do you believe that Landis/Armstrong are self confessed cycling cheats?
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#16 Feb 20, 2013
Regis le cycliste wrote:
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On a thread about doping/cycling! You continue to mention the military! Why? Is this significant???????? If so, please explain!
Do you believe that Landis/Armstrong are self confessed cycling cheats?
Still tap dancing and back pedaling I see. Suggest you stick to the topic of cycling that you're now hanging onto. It was quite evident that you don't have a clue.

Actually I did point out that it was you Europeans who history showed doping and cheating first, as we cousins only naturally copied you guys later on.

Many more cyclists have come out and admitted to their own doping/cheating over a month ago.

Time for you to come up with something more original.

Cheers
Gus

Vancouver, Canada

#19 Feb 20, 2013
Wang wrote:
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His pastime is being an ignorant arse.
Hi WANKster still pulling it?
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#20 Feb 20, 2013
Wang wrote:
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His pastime is being an ignorant arse.
Wang wrote:
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He goes off on tangents when his Texas-size pea brain gets a vapor lock.
Well, at least I can comprehand what other people type here and I'm not afraid to respond, where as some of them really try back pedaling at times.

As for your name calling, I can tell you that it has absolutely no affect on me simply because if you really have to resort to name calling in the first place, then you are not only ignorant, but you are a very stupid person as well.

If you even knew anything about human beings, you would know that none of us have a Pea sized brain. Of course it really looks like you only have a Pea sized part of intelligence within you brain as the rest of it seems to be empty storage space.

Cheers
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#21 Feb 20, 2013
Just seen on the news where Lance Armstrong has refused to interview with the USADA under oath. Gee, what a surprise considering that he had interviewed with Opera Winfrey and then later stated that he still wanted to continue cometing in sports.

Looks like Travis Tygart isn't going to be lifting that "Life Time Ban" any soon.

Cheers
flandishater

Riverside, CA

#22 Feb 20, 2013
If Lance would of put Landis on come back team of Tour De France, none of this Lance trouble would have come forth, Until the book " The Secret Race"' came out. Don't know if book was written after feds question Hamilton. Lance was not very nice to fink on Hamilton when he became a threat in the Tur De France.

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