Bikes of the peloton

Bikes of the peloton

There are 103 comments on the Bike-Zone story from Jun 1, 2007, titled Bikes of the peloton. In it, Bike-Zone reports that:

“This frame weighs under 1kg in the medium size", explained DeRosa. "The weight is real, not made up like some people do.”

Herv Duclos-Lasalle hasn't quite managed as illustrious career as his father, two-time Paris-Roubaix winner Gilbert Duclos-Lasalle, but has had a decent professional career at Cofidis nonetheless. via Bike-Zone

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“crystelZENmud”

Since: Jan 07

Reality City

#21 Jun 2, 2007
wiLL would like to take a stick and HARD DRIVE it into... wait??!! wouldn't that stick be ERASED?

Or only 'ridden over'(heh heh)??

ZENoryLane
Will wrote:
<quoted text>
It's more fun to STICK IT TO LANDIS.

“crystelZENmud”

Since: Jan 07

Reality City

#22 Jun 2, 2007
People still ask why I, a (formerly) daredevil descender (I'd love to tail Savoldelli down Col de Marchairuz sometime...), ride on steel frames...

"I've 8kg to lose, before I need to shed 0.8 kg on my frame..."

STEEL FOR REAL...

ZENstrong
Wayne

Australia

#23 Jun 2, 2007
ZENmud wrote:
People still ask why I, a (formerly) daredevil descender (I'd love to tail Savoldelli down Col de Marchairuz sometime...), ride on steel frames...
"I've 8kg to lose, before I need to shed 0.8 kg on my frame..."
STEEL FOR REAL...
ZENstrong
8 kg? Me too.( well, maybe about 7 as of this morning..)

Anyway, my Torelli Super Strada is genuine Columbus steel. Cheap, too.

---Wayne---

“I Love Life, People & Animals”

Since: Feb 07

El Paso, Texas

#24 Jun 3, 2007
As long as you like your bikes it really doesn't matter what they're made of. Just enjoy and charish them.

Cheers

“crystelZENmud”

Since: Jan 07

Reality City

#25 Jun 6, 2007
Aesthetically-speaking, MOeP, no one's gonna disagree: but it was SCARY to see George Hincapie go face down, in 2006 Paris-Roubaix, due to his carbon-fork failure: I will (verb) NEVER own one...

(Imagine if George had passed away, as did the Kazakstanian rider who had his hands in his back pockets when a mass-crash occurred?)

ZEN_Owwww
John

United States

#26 Jun 6, 2007
Will wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL...try Googling her.
I Googled "Le Farce" and not suprisingly, your name appeared.
Wayne

Martinsburg, WV

#27 Jun 6, 2007
ZENmud wrote:
Aesthetically-speaking, MOeP, no one's gonna disagree: but it was SCARY to see George Hincapie go face down, in 2006 Paris-Roubaix, due to his carbon-fork failure: I will (verb) NEVER own one...

ZEN_Owwww
I dunno.....I think a carbon fork might be Ok if it is part of a major weight reduction. Probably can save 0.5 lbs on the fork. Only thing, I would want a CrMo steerer, not full carbon.

I'm gonna try it on my next bike.

---Wayne---

“I Love Life, People & Animals”

Since: Feb 07

El Paso, Texas

#28 Jun 6, 2007
ZENmud wrote:
Aesthetically-speaking, MOeP, no one's gonna disagree: but it was SCARY to see George Hincapie go face down, in 2006 Paris-Roubaix, due to his carbon-fork failure: I will (verb) NEVER own one...
(Imagine if George had passed away, as did the Kazakstanian rider who had his hands in his back pockets when a mass-crash occurred?)
ZEN_Owwww
I think it was Ricky Rider who stated that he has an all carbon bike and that he doen't ride it much because of how it handles. That told me enough for staying with what I already have.

Cheers
Jon

Salt Lake City, UT

#29 Jun 6, 2007
I just finished re-building a 1980 412 Trek bicycle. The bike has Ishawata double butted cr-mo tubes....steel is real! I looked for a couple of years for a classic Trek bicycle and I am very happy to have found one. The rebuild job was very dirty, much cleaning and polishing parts (tedious and time consuming.) The finished product is very good, the bike tracks straight if you take your hands off the bullhorns, a good sign that the frame is not bent. Most of the parts are original, except when I found the bike the wheels were missing, so I put on Ayara wheels with Sunshine hubs (AL jobs) not steel! And the derailluers were shot. Very smooth ride for a twenty-seven year old bike and little paint damage. If you are a wrench you might want to restore a classic yourself.
John

Sparks, NV

#30 Jun 6, 2007
I've ridden high-end road bikes for a long time now. In the last three years I've owned an all aluminum Cannondale R6000 team Saeco bike, a carbon Scott CR-1, a carbon Trek Madone 5900 and currently am riding a carbon Specialized S-Works Roubaix SL. I also have a Colnago Super made of Columbus tubing dating back to the early eighties. I'll tell you all right now that "Steel may be real" but "Plastic is fantastic!". There is no better material than carbon fiber when it comes to building a road bike frame. Or wheels. Or bars. Or stems. Or seatposts. Or whatever. And it's not all about weight. You can get an aluminum Litespeed that weighs a mere 770 grams. There are currently NO production carbon frames that weigh less than that. It's about comfort. Carbon damps road buzz like steel without the penalty of lateral and torsional flex. And, carbon certainly is lighter. I love my Colnago, but rarely ride it. It simply can't compare to my Roubaix. Furthermore, if steel framed bikes performed better than carbon, you'd see them in the pro peloton. And you don't. I'm not bashing steel as a frame material because it certainly has it's place in the bike world. Like for touring bikes and hardtails. That being said, it cannot and does not perform like carbon. If you haven't tried carbon, do so. And I'm not talking about carbon bikes from "B" level bike companies like Jamis and Iron Horse. I'm talking Trek, Specialized, Colnago, Giant, Scott etc. I have no doubts once you ride a carbon bike, you'll want one. Now get out and ride!

“crystelZENmud”

Since: Jan 07

Reality City

#31 Jun 7, 2007
I rode to my GF's place on my 40-yr-old Marilu, an Italian folding with a Campy Record Crank from 1986 :-)

Not arguing against you, John, but not sure how much you weigh: me, at 94 optimistic kilos (*2.2 = 207#), may have exaggerated 'nervousness' in the frame (FR word 'nervosité'), or a 'whippy' sensation: the world's a different place for those riders/racers between 55 and 80kg!

And my Columbus Hinault steel frame, from 1999, looks as pretty as last years:

http://crystelzenmud.blogspot.com/2007/04/one...
(top photo 2004:June / bottom photo 2007:Feb (new Fulcrum cheap wheels!))

Any bike beats any Car any trafficjam!

ZENile
John

Dayton, NV

#32 Jun 7, 2007
Zen,
Nice ride. I wasn't aware that "The Badger" had his own line of bikes. And you certainly can't beat red as a frame color. A friend of mine owned the same Fulcrum 7's in black and had a problem with the rim joints coming apart. Just a head's up for you.

I'm 6 foot, 150 lbs and no rouleur but I do notice significant flex on my old Colnago, especially when climbing. In fact, the bike has a tendency to downshift due to the constant flexing of the frame and subsequent slacking and tautening of the gear cables. This presents a real problem as I live near Lake Tahoe and most of the roads around here go up. Perhaps the frame has seen the end of its useful lifespan.

You, at 207 would benefit greatly from a torsionally and laterally stiff frame. And, if you look at some of the "endurance" geometry road bikes (i.e. Specialized Roubaix, The new Trek Madone (not the pro model) or Bianchis C to C bikes) which have longer head tubes and shorter top tubes, you'll find that they're very stable while riding hands free. A slightly longer wheelbase means less twithcyness while providing a bit more vertical compliance. You will lose the razors edge handling characteristics that you get with a Pro Tour geometry bike, but the trade off is, for most people, well worth it. Check one out and let me know what you think. P.S. I always enjoy reading your posts, keep up the good work.

“Carpe Diem”

Since: Mar 07

Bristol UK

#33 Jun 7, 2007
John wrote:
Zen,
Nice ride. I wasn't aware that "The Badger" had his own line of bikes. And you certainly can't beat red as a frame color. A friend of mine owned the same Fulcrum 7's in black and had a problem with the rim joints coming apart. Just a head's up for you.
I'm 6 foot, 150 lbs and no rouleur but I do notice significant flex on my old Colnago, especially when climbing. In fact, the bike has a tendency to downshift due to the constant flexing of the frame and subsequent slacking and tautening of the gear cables. This presents a real problem as I live near Lake Tahoe and most of the roads around here go up. Perhaps the frame has seen the end of its useful lifespan.
You, at 207 would benefit greatly from a torsionally and laterally stiff frame. And, if you look at some of the "endurance" geometry road bikes (i.e. Specialized Roubaix, The new Trek Madone (not the pro model) or Bianchis C to C bikes) which have longer head tubes and shorter top tubes, you'll find that they're very stable while riding hands free. A slightly longer wheelbase means less twithcyness while providing a bit more vertical compliance. You will lose the razors edge handling characteristics that you get with a Pro Tour geometry bike, but the trade off is, for most people, well worth it. Check one out and let me know what you think. P.S. I always enjoy reading your posts, keep up the good work.
10 stone 10 lbs and 6 foot tall! You will never make it!(Just kidding) So, Steel, alloy, Carbon, what the heck, just get on and ride the thing! Red, Black, does it matter? My training bike is red, the serious one Black. Flexing enough to distort the frame enough to distort the cables!!! Get another frame builder, the joints are loose!
Happy riding guys

“I Love Life, People & Animals”

Since: Feb 07

El Paso, Texas

#34 Jun 7, 2007
Just ride till you drop! And maybe a beautiful woman comes to your rescue!

“Carpe Diem”

Since: Mar 07

Bristol UK

#35 Jun 8, 2007
My Opinion_El Paso_TX wrote:
Just ride till you drop! And maybe a beautiful woman comes to your rescue!
To late, I found her! So what is left!

“crystelZENmud”

Since: Jan 07

Reality City

#36 Jun 8, 2007
Agreed John: I don't like "twithcyness" either!(see above):-)))

I'll post another day, my older Colnago 'prototype' cyclocross all-ALU frame w/ double down tubes: they were tricked for an Italian team that declined to race on them (flexible longitudinally, TOTALLY solid side-to-side).

A friend off a Yahoo cycling group lives in Sardinia; his LBS 'inherited' these castoffs and I turned mine into a UAV:
Urban Assault Vehicle.:-)

ZENpartytime
(me: a 24 avocado guacamolé dip)
John

Reno, NV

#37 Jun 8, 2007
Athos wrote:
<quoted text>10 stone 10 lbs and 6 foot tall! You will never make it!(Just kidding) So, Steel, alloy, Carbon, what the heck, just get on and ride the thing! Red, Black, does it matter? My training bike is red, the serious one Black. Flexing enough to distort the frame enough to distort the cables!!! Get another frame builder, the joints are loose!
Happy riding guys
Athos,
Mine's red AND black. It's an 07 Specialized S-Works Roubaix SL. Same as the "bikes of the peloton". Check out the Specialized website for all the details. I'll be doing the Deathride (129 miles with 16,000 feet of climbing over 5 mountains) in less than a month so you can be sure I'm riding it. A lot. And at 150 lbs. I'll fly up those passes. Well, maybe not fly, but I will finish. Again! Did I mention the bike weighs in at 16 lbs. I could throw on some tubulars and get 'er down to 15 but don't need the hassles of sew-ups. In all honesty, I couldn't imagine doing the Deathride on a steel bike. Too ineffecient for a ride like that. Check out Deathride.com . There's a link to 2006 images. My bib # was 1129. Scroll to the last option (Carson Summit) for a good photo of me on my CR-1.

People come from all over to do this one. Maybe I could shepherd you up one of the climbs someday (L.O.L.) if you wanted to give it a shot. You'd probably opt for something other than the rickshaw you're riding in the Topix photo (again, L.O.L.). I've got a few extra bikes you could choose from to borrow if you like. Or, you could bring your own.

Anyway, the bike is calling and it's absolutely gorgeous outside with plenty of sun, no wind, and temps in the lower 70's. I'll be climbing Mount Rose and Gieger grade for a total of 75 miles with 8,000 vertical feet. Jealous?
John

Reno, NV

#38 Jun 8, 2007
ZENmud wrote:
Agreed John: I don't like "twithcyness" either!(see above):-)))
I'll post another day, my older Colnago 'prototype' cyclocross all-ALU frame w/ double down tubes: they were tricked for an Italian team that declined to race on them (flexible longitudinally, TOTALLY solid side-to-side).
A friend off a Yahoo cycling group lives in Sardinia; his LBS 'inherited' these castoffs and I turned mine into a UAV:
Urban Assault Vehicle.:-)
ZENpartytime
(me: a 24 avocado guacamolé dip)
Zen, or should I call you "hawkeye"?
I noticed the typo AFTER I posted, but what can you do? I've got a buddy who lives in Sardinia and actually works part-time at a shop. Maybe the same shop. And by the way, I too was a Minnesotan. Born in Minneapolis. I still root for the Vikes. I'll check back later for photos of the UAV. Gotta go, the bike awaits!

“Carpe Diem”

Since: Mar 07

Bristol UK

#39 Jun 8, 2007
John wrote:
<quoted text>
Athos,
Mine's red AND black. It's an 07 Specialized S-Works Roubaix SL. Same as the "bikes of the peloton". Check out the Specialized website for all the details. I'll be doing the Deathride (129 miles with 16,000 feet of climbing over 5 mountains) in less than a month so you can be sure I'm riding it. A lot. And at 150 lbs. I'll fly up those passes. Well, maybe not fly, but I will finish. Again! Did I mention the bike weighs in at 16 lbs. I could throw on some tubulars and get 'er down to 15 but don't need the hassles of sew-ups. In all honesty, I couldn't imagine doing the Deathride on a steel bike. Too ineffecient for a ride like that. Check out Deathride.com . There's a link to 2006 images. My bib # was 1129. Scroll to the last option (Carson Summit) for a good photo of me on my CR-1.
People come from all over to do this one. Maybe I could shepherd you up one of the climbs someday (L.O.L.) if you wanted to give it a shot. You'd probably opt for something other than the rickshaw you're riding in the Topix photo (again, L.O.L.). I've got a few extra bikes you could choose from to borrow if you like. Or, you could bring your own.
Anyway, the bike is calling and it's absolutely gorgeous outside with plenty of sun, no wind, and temps in the lower 70's. I'll be climbing Mount Rose and Gieger grade for a total of 75 miles with 8,000 vertical feet. Jealous?
I had a look at the web site John, it looks like a great DAY out. I hope the weather holds out for you all. You have a great 'tour'. Chris

“crystelZENmud”

Since: Jan 07

Reality City

#40 Jun 8, 2007
I found Treaty errors in '98 which my boss said were each worth a month's pay...(they'd been unnoticed for about three years :-)

I was born on Lake Minnetonka, near Gray's Bay, and the Minn. Yacht Club (Where Bonnie Raitt made her first album!)... my second oldest bro was co-captain of the High School Hockey team... moved away to NJ in '64, watched Twins in the World Series AFTER leaving (ain't it always...)

ZENories

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