Lance Armstrong A Lying Loser

Lance Armstrong A Lying Loser

There are 27 comments on the Crusader story from Feb 17, 2013, titled Lance Armstrong A Lying Loser. In it, Crusader reports that:

For the past decade, Lance Armstrong was considered by many to be not only the greatest American cyclist of all time, but possibly even the greatest athlete of all time.

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Andre

Cairo, Egypt

#1 Feb 18, 2013
Crusader and other judgemetal folks on Lance. So you all follow popular croud opinion, nothing upstairs to make your own decisions.

Lance will always remain to be known as a great cyclist - and he was rightly so!

Do you write of your kid because he makes an error or two? Do you write of a friend whostep over the line. And you? how would you like to be treated? You do not know him and still you judge!
turtle

Huddersfield, UK

#2 Feb 19, 2013
mmmmmmmmmm, croud, sorry crowd opinion you say. I do not think that even comes into it. He has been caught lying and cheating for gain in professional sport. Its that simple, only his crimes went further and are more heinous than any others. ( i only throw the last comment in there to bait the la sympathizers a little, having spent years listening to the yellow band crew piously lording it over me and others; makes it hard to resist.)
Drumroll

Bathgate, UK

#3 Feb 20, 2013
Your desire to gang Armstrong far outweighs your objectivity with statements like those you have made.

Dud Armstrong not do what all Cyclists of his era did and basically all Sports do anyway? How is his Crime greater? Is there different levels if cheating we do t know about or is cheating the same as cheating? Please explain?
filmgirlC

Marietta, GA

#4 Feb 20, 2013
He is the greatest fraud in sports history and has been living a pampered existence because of it. He should have to give all the money back. for every book, race, endorsement. He profited by fraud, anyone else would be in jail, which I honestly feel would be an appropriate course of action. Anyone else committing fraud on this scale would be held accountable in a court of law.
Mark

Cookeville, TN

#5 Feb 20, 2013
don't use drugs.
Drumroll

Bathgate, UK

#6 Feb 20, 2013
The gain Armstrong received was nothing compared to many others in the chain. He was a cyclist and only became a team part owner later in his career as a sweetner but not in the USP, Motorolla, Discovery years.

If you look at the history of cycling you will see that doping/cheating was/is present just the same as all the other Sports.

Have a look at Operation Puerto in Spain where the Government Ordered the Judge to allow only the Cyclists name to be released which were 25% of Dr E clients and 75% go free such as Ferrer, Nadal, Spanish National Soccer Team, Real Madrid, Barcelona and thas before we get onto the Athletes.
IOC, WADA etc all sitting back allowing all this to happen, thats also corruption of a much bigger scale when the evidence is sitting there and banned from being used.

If thats not big enough a fraud to look at try the Olympics for size as well and you will see that only comes second to Politicians!

You need to understand that Armstrong doped because they all doped in his era as they before and after and if you did not dope you did not finish and had no career.
flandishater

Riverside, CA

#7 Feb 20, 2013
Lance was and still is the greatest in my book. He worked hard. He was not the master mind. During the time I rode we all knew about the blood transfusions. It was not illegal at the begining.
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#8 Apr 25, 2013
Hates Floyd Landis?

Likes Lance Armstrong?

Interesting at best!
Christoph65

Irving, TX

#9 May 3, 2013
Let's see; it's crowd not croud. It's Judgmental not judgemetal. It's write-off not write of. It's who steps not whosetp. "And you?" is not a sentence. But most of all Lance will NEVER "remain to be know as a great cyclist" (yes your words) but rather a cheat, a liar, a thief, and a bully.
Andre wrote:
Crusader and other judgemetal folks on Lance. So you all follow popular croud opinion, nothing upstairs to make your own decisions.
Lance will always remain to be known as a great cyclist - and he was rightly so!
Do you write of your kid because he makes an error or two? Do you write of a friend whostep over the line. And you? how would you like to be treated? You do not know him and still you judge!

Since: May 13

Irving, TX

#10 May 3, 2013
If you rode as you said, you would know that the IOC and the USCF has banned blood doping since 1986. Yes I rode too.
flandishater wrote:
Lance was and still is the greatest in my book. He worked hard. He was not the master mind. During the time I rode we all knew about the blood transfusions. It was not illegal at the begining.
Mhmac13

Fort Worth, TX

#11 May 5, 2013
Lance Armstrong did more to further the sport of cycling than any athlete has ever done. It will never again capture the imagination the way he did. So he was doing what everyone else in the sport was doing. I don't see all the vitriol pointed at the rest of the sport. His efforts to help cancer victims at least provided some balance to this complicated guy. That is more than you can say for many others. Jealousy and spite account for a lot of this negative bs. So get a life and establish your own foundation to help others!
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#12 May 5, 2013
Christoph65 wrote:
If you rode as you said, you would know that the IOC and the USCF has banned blood doping since 1986. Yes I rode too.
<quoted text>
Glad that someone can add real facts in here and get the dates right in relation to illegal drugs and doping.

Cheers
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#13 May 5, 2013
Mhmac13 wrote:
Lance Armstrong did more to further the sport of cycling than any athlete has ever done. It will never again capture the imagination the way he did. So he was doing what everyone else in the sport was doing. I don't see all the vitriol pointed at the rest of the sport. His efforts to help cancer victims at least provided some balance to this complicated guy. That is more than you can say for many others. Jealousy and spite account for a lot of this negative bs. So get a life and establish your own foundation to help others!
Amazing when it gets related to envy and jealousy all the time.

So, what do you do with a person like myself who has never had a problem with envy and jealsouy?

I was raised with the beliefs and understanding that hardwork can take anyone a longway on the path to success and I always applaud anyone who has been able to find success in their lives.

But, I was also raised to look at all the facts and evidence before making a decision or developing an opinion as that only helps me in both understanding and knowing the real truth.

I was a big fan of Lance Armstrong and definitely enjoyed watching him in the various TDF's. But, "7" straight TDF wins also begs to wonder if drugs/doping were involved there as we already have known from the history of the TDF just how hard that race is to win. We also know that no major cyclist has ever gone past the famed "5" TDF wins, until Lance Armstrong came along.

So, "7" stright TDF wins would really beg to argue the odds of that really happening "CLEAN!" But, all too many cycling fans bought it hook, line, and sinker just the same simply because they really wanted to believe it.

Some because he's an American, some because they don't like the French, some really don't care about doping or illegal drugs, and various other reasons.

But, the reality is that Lance Armstrong doped and cheated his way through cycling at the same time that we also observed double standards in being handed out to the various cheaters/dopers as well.

And I trully believe that the doping is still on-going in an advanced process similar to or better then that of the Lance Armstrong doping program.

Cheers
athos

Bristol, UK

#14 May 31, 2013
Mhmac13 wrote:
Lance Armstrong did more to further the sport of cycling than any athlete has ever done. It will never again capture the imagination the way he did. So he was doing what everyone else in the sport was doing. I don't see all the vitriol pointed at the rest of the sport. His efforts to help cancer victims at least provided some balance to this complicated guy. That is more than you can say for many others. Jealousy and spite account for a lot of this negative bs. So get a life and establish your own foundation to help others!
he also did more than anybody to bring the sport down into the gutter
My_Opinion_In_El Paso_TX

El Paso, TX

#15 May 31, 2013
athos wrote:
<quoted text>he also did more than anybody to bring the sport down into the gutter
I believe that he may have had some help here Chris!

Like the: USADA, UCI, IOC, Omarta, Doping Doctors, etc!

Cheers
My_Opinion_In_El Paso_TX

El Paso, TX

#16 May 31, 2013
athos wrote:
<quoted text>he also did more than anybody to bring the sport down into the gutter
Chris, any idea as to why Braddley Wiggins had problems in the Giro d'Italia?

Cheers
athos

Bristol, UK

#17 Jun 1, 2013
My_Opinion_In_El Paso_TX wrote:
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Chris, any idea as to why Braddley Wiggins had problems in the Giro d'Italia?
Cheers
He had a chest infection. He is now out of the TDF with a knee injury. CF is the new leader
athos

Bristol, UK

#18 Jun 1, 2013
My_Opinion_In_El Paso_TX wrote:
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I believe that he may have had some help here Chris!
Like the: USADA, UCI, IOC, Omarta, Doping Doctors, etc!
Cheers
He certainly did, especially the doctors. LA did a lot for his charity but appears to be a very unpleasant piece of work
My_Opinion_In_El Paso_TX

El Paso, TX

#19 Jun 1, 2013
athos wrote:
<quoted text>He had a chest infection. He is now out of the TDF with a knee injury. CF is the new leader
I had heard about the chest infection and had hoped that it would clear up by the Tour de France.

Didn't hear about the knee injury and that really sucks.

I hate to see any of the cyclists when they crash and or get hurt as I always hope they get to have decent luck in their sport for competition. But, life never works out like that and we just have to bounce with it like everyone else.

Cheers
My_Opinion_In_El Paso_TX

El Paso, TX

#20 Jun 1, 2013
athos wrote:
<quoted text>He certainly did, especially the doctors. LA did a lot for his charity but appears to be a very unpleasant piece of work
There is no doubt that Lance Armstrong's personality is very nasty when it suits him.

I could never understand that considering that his mother is a very pleasant lady herself, so it questions as to how and where he went in a different direction of behavior.

Cheers

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