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Leipheimer details doping culture at symposium

There are 4 comments on the CNN story from Oct 16, 2012, titled Leipheimer details doping culture at symposium. In it, CNN reports that:

During long training rides, Levi Leipheimer would trade secrets with his friends and foes about what did and didn't work when it came to EPO, blood transfusions and other ways of eking out the last ounces of speed and stamina they needed to stay at the top of their grueling sport.

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GeeMan

Broxburn, UK

#1 Oct 16, 2012
Looks like the secret formula was not so secret after all!

Hopefully with more and more coming out about the US riders, US folks shall see that LA was the Devil he is being marketed as but just another rider doing the same as the whole Peloton.

Yes he was the most famous but did nothing different.

All of these guys were doing exactly the same no matter what team they were in using time honoured doping techniques.
turtle

Huddersfield, UK

#2 Oct 17, 2012
GeeMan wrote:
Looks like the secret formula was not so secret after all!
Hopefully with more and more coming out about the US riders, US folks shall see that LA was the Devil he is being marketed as but just another rider doing the same as the whole Peloton.
Yes he was the most famous but did nothing different.
All of these guys were doing exactly the same no matter what team they were in using time honoured doping techniques.
why did he pay ferrari more than others did?
It seems pretty obvious that the us postal teams structure was to facilitate doping for lance to win.
therefore pretty obvious he and his cohorts set it up to benefit him most. Including hiring doctors team directors and riders.
his success obviously places him in the higher stratosphere of doping than people lower down.
His repeated lies, still now when he has the opportunity to come forward with the others makes him stand alone up there at the top. His aggressive and bullying tactics to defend himself stand him out also for special attention. While riding his behaviour as the king of the peloton again stand him out.
I am sorry geeie but i do not think it is poor little lance, with everyone picking on him. With him just being the same as the others and it not being fair that he gets so much blame. He chose, sought, wanted to be the main man. He did encourage others to help him win the tdf on 7 occasions but he cheated more and better every time. Irrelevant of others he should be stripped of the titles ect ect. Because he did it and now everyone knows he did.
It is not unfair or a witch hunt or anything like that. He has put himself in this position. Quite honestly, with aggressive, vindictive, arrogance.
Showing lots of markers for being a sociopath.
GeeMan

Broxburn, UK

#3 Oct 19, 2012
turtle the structure of every Cycling Team is to make their Team leader win. That unfortunately included doping strategy.

How do we condemn LA and not Anquetil, Merckx, Hinault, etc. etc.

Doping was/is in Cycling and whoever won did so on a level playing field it is as simple as that.

That doesn’t defend doping or LA it represents Cycling factually.

In 1930's TDF announced it could no longer afford to supply doping products to contestants and they would have to provide their own.
The culture and acceptance is long established and this recent scandal is added to the rest and those we shall see in the future.

Why is LA any different?

On accusations of intimidation etc. when 1 person says something and another the opposite how do we know who told the truth?
That does not say it did or did not happen it just means how can any of us know.
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#4 May 9, 2013
Good Points from both sides.

Wondering when UCI, USADA, etc will ever get the point and reorganize their focus!

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