Message to Turkey

There are 14 comments on the The Cyprus Weekly story from Jul 6, 2010, titled Message to Turkey. In it, The Cyprus Weekly reports that:

" If Turkey wants to impart real momentum to the negotiations aiming to solve the Cyprus problem then it must proceed to some moves that will contribute to the trust needed in the negotiations such as the withdrawal of the occupation troops from the island and the return of the occupied town of Famagusta, Greek Alternate Foreign Minister Demetris ...

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I wonder

Ankara, Turkey

#1 Jul 7, 2010
...if Greece lies when it says "We support inter-communal talks". If the contests of this news is true, this Minister does not think that there are intercommunal talks in Cyprus. What a conflict!..
nancy

Istanbul, Turkey

#2 Jul 7, 2010
" If Turkey wants to impart real momentum to the negotiations aiming to solve the Cyprus problem then it must take the rest of the island...
Democracy United States

Watseka, IL

#3 Jul 7, 2010
nancy wrote:
" If Turkey wants to impart real momentum to the negotiations aiming to solve the Cyprus problem then it must take the rest of the island...
Then greece needs to declare war by declaring everythings greek on the island.

And the "constitution" that britain forced on the greek cypriots is illegal and void.
I wonder

Ankara, Turkey

#4 Jul 8, 2010
nancy wrote:
" If Turkey wants to impart real momentum to the negotiations aiming to solve the Cyprus problem then it must take the rest of the island...
You know that it should have been the case (in 74). Indeed if Turkey had done so in 1974, now we would have a functioning, real, authentic Republic of Cyprus, on a bi-zonal (not only bi-communal) basis.

Let me also add (so that people judge it with the sign incendiary :-) that one basic reason of the Cyprus problem is that Britain has not returned the occupied island to Turkey in the wake of decolonisation...

Moy

Since: May 10

east coast scotland

#5 Jul 8, 2010
I find what you wrote interesting...can explain a bit more about,"Britain has not returned the occupied island to Turkey in the wake of decolonisation."
Agamemnon

UK

#7 Jul 8, 2010
I wonder wrote:
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You know that it should have been the case (in 74). Indeed if Turkey had done so in 1974, now we would have a functioning, real, authentic Republic of Cyprus, on a bi-zonal (not only bi-communal) basis.
Let me also add (so that people judge it with the sign incendiary :-) that one basic reason of the Cyprus problem is that Britain has not returned the occupied island to Turkey in the wake of decolonisation...
Such arrogance! You are beginning to sound like Israel. Except you are no Israel. Not even close.
You took from Cyprus what you were permitted to take by the US. JUst like in northern Iraq, they drew a line over which they told you not to cross. You duly obeyed.
Cyprus is no longer the vulnerable, divided by a civil war place and fighting you on its own that you found in 1974. That was a free kick provided to you courtesy of your fellow fascists in the Greek Junta.
Now, Cyprus has the support of the EU, which kind of makes the playing field even. Perhaps you should attack, and watch in surprise as all hell breaks loose. Cyprus is no longer alone.
Cyprus is never going to be part of Turkey again in its entirety. What you have is what was given to you. Just an illegal state recognised by no one but yourselves.
I wonder

Ankara, Turkey

#8 Jul 8, 2010
... why the Greek Cypriots do not comment on the refugee camps existent in Cyprus all the way from 1964 until the Turkish Peace Operation in 1974.(It was confessed in this forum.) I dont know why anyone does not think of how it might have been to survive for the Turkish Cypriots when they could not even travel from one refugee camp to another without Greek Cypriot police controls on the way that did not let continue any bus if anyone on the "list" of passengers lacked therein.(I am not talking about Schindler's List, that was a positive one.) I wonder why so few comments on the "greek" word empathy or the bus that travelled to a collective grave. I wonder how many Greek Cypriots are wondering what I meant when I wrote about the censuring of history in South Cyprus...

I wonder how there may be a people on the earth who is either so ignorant about its past or is trying to fool itself (fooling the world is another thing yet not that dramatic) pretending those tragic years were not lived...
Agamemnon

UK

#10 Jul 8, 2010
I wonder wrote:
... why the Greek Cypriots do not comment on the refugee camps existent in Cyprus all the way from 1964 until the Turkish Peace Operation in 1974.(It was confessed in this forum.) I dont know why anyone does not think of how it might have been to survive for the Turkish Cypriots when they could not even travel from one refugee camp to another without Greek Cypriot police controls on the way that did not let continue any bus if anyone on the "list" of passengers lacked therein.(I am not talking about Schindler's List, that was a positive one.) I wonder why so few comments on the "greek" word empathy or the bus that travelled to a collective grave. I wonder how many Greek Cypriots are wondering what I meant when I wrote about the censuring of history in South Cyprus...
I wonder how there may be a people on the earth who is either so ignorant about its past or is trying to fool itself (fooling the world is another thing yet not that dramatic) pretending those tragic years were not lived...
The trouble is that ultra-nationalists from both sides are only able to repeat the tired old propaganda that justifies their actions.
Strange, that you do not strike me as an ultra-nationalist, so you deserve a response.
You must start from the premise that Cyprus was destined for partition. This was the intent of the Greek side, and this was the intent of the Turkish side. Above all this was the intent of the of the NATO powers of the US and the UK. This has been admitted in a broadcast here by BBC Radio 4.
Fact: EOKA killed more GCs than it did TCs and British.
Fact: Both the TMT and EOKA killed members of their own community that dared to have business or friendly contact with each other.
Because of the above, Turkish Cypriots were "encouraged" to retreat into enclaves that making the possiblity of partition easier.
British officers that served in Cyprus have admitted that the were gun running to both sides.
Fact: The majority of GCs had rejected enosis, because it meant partition. That is why EOKA-B was formed.

However, I urge you not to take my word for it. Find out for yourself by doing some honest research avoiding Greek or Turkish sources alone.
The we talk.
I wonder

Ankara, Turkey

#11 Jul 8, 2010
... how a person that takes the nickname Agamemnon accuses of being "arrogant" a person who is only curious (wondering)...
Agamemnon

UK

#12 Jul 8, 2010
I wonder wrote:
... how a person that takes the nickname Agamemnon accuses of being "arrogant" a person who is only curious (wondering)...
Whether you are arrogant as a person I do not know.
Your statement was nonetheless arrogant, and even you recognised it as inflamatory.
It is arrogant to talk about occupying a country as though you are picking an apple off a tree.

Since you are "curious", I took the name Agamemnon because the Illiad was the first book I read in Greek as a child here in the UK.
Aphrodite

Farmingdale, NY

#13 Aug 7, 2010
The only fair solution is for All Turkish traitors, the people who supported the illegal occupation of Cyprus to be deported to their own country. Cyprus must be reunited and if their citizens want to unite with Greece so be it. Cyprus doesn't and never belong to the evil terrorist country TURKEY. They always fought against this regime. As a child I remembered the cry: English learn it we are Greeks. Now we tell the terrorists Turks: Turks learn it we are Greeks. As for the Turkish Cypriots they are not even Turkish. Their ancestors were forced to convert to Islam. They are orginially Greek Catholics who supported the Venetian regime of the island during the middle ages. They cannot even speak Turkish. Now they are slaves to the terrorist empire of Turkey. Look what the Turks are doing in the middle east. They want to start a war in Gaza. Maybe they could invade Gaza and reclaim it as theirs? Death to Turkey and their terrorists government.
Aphrodite

Farmingdale, NY

#14 Aug 7, 2010
I wonder wrote:
...if Greece lies when it says "We support inter-communal talks". If the contests of this news is true, this Minister does not think that there are intercommunal talks in Cyprus. What a conflict!..
Dumpbell Cyprus is an independent country. We don't want any terrorists nation especially Turkey to owe one inch of our island. Death to your racist terrorist nation. Cyprus will be freed as well as Anatolia from barbarian hands.
Aphrodite

Farmingdale, NY

#15 Aug 7, 2010
I wonder wrote:
... how a person that takes the nickname Agamemnon accuses of being "arrogant" a person who is only curious (wondering)...
Dumbell: I am sorry that your barbarian terrorist nation never gave you an education. You don't know anything about Western history. Oh, I forgot Turks aren't westerners they are Asians. They come from central Asia. Did you know that? Yes, Monoglian like all Turks from Turkimenstan. That is where you get your name and language. Turkish IS NOT part of the INDO-European people of Europe. They are Monoglians. But, that is why the world calls Turks barbarians people without a culture!!!
I wonder

Ankara, Turkey

#16 Aug 7, 2010
I am all greek to it...

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