Serbs in Crimea send 'false message,' experts and citizens say

Mar 24, 2014 Read more: SETimes news 54

A group of extremists who have joined the Russian paramilitary forces in Crimea do not represent the state, experts tell SETimes.

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#1 Mar 24, 2014
A small group of Serbian citizens who are in Crimea to support Russian paramilitary forces are damaging the Balkan state's international reputation, experts and citizens said.

Just days after Russian troops moved into the Crimea peninsula, members of the extremist Chetnik Movement from Krusevac, central Serbia, arrived in Simferopol.

"We went there because we were invited by our brothers, the Russian Cossacks, to help them in their fight for Crimea. New members are ready and can join our members there whenever it is needed," Njegos Popovic, a Chetnik Movement representative, told SETimes.

"Our aim is to support the Russian people in the name of the Serbian people," said Milutin Malisic, a Serbian volunteer. "We are representing the Chetnik movement, which is similar to the Russian Cossacks," he told Russian agency Itar Tass.

Malisic, who said his group is called "the Wolves," said the initiative is to repay the Russians for their support for Serbia in the Balkan wars of the 1990s.

Milan Jovanovic, director of the Belgrade-based Forum for Security and Democracy, said the main reason the group went to Crimea is to attempt to create obstacles on Serbia's path to the EU.

"These people that are promoting themselves as Chetniks in Crimea are harmful. They are harming the image of Serbia and threating its EU integration. They are damaging relations with NATO as well, which is a guarantor of stability for the whole of Europe," Jovanovic told SETimes.

He emphasised that the group is not a legitimate representation of Serbia.

"They are, first of all, representatives of ignorance and primitivism. They are not Chetniks, although they claim to be. Chetnik leader Draza Mihajlovic would be turning in his tomb if he knew that these people are promoting everything he was against and representing themselves as his successors," Jovanovic said.

Darko Trifunovic, a member of the Southeast Europe Experts Team Fighting Terrorism and Organised Crime, agreed.

"Chetnik leader Draza Mihajlovic was posthumously honoured for saving 500 US pilots in World War II and he was fighting against communism. It is hard to believe that someone can represent him by fighting for Russia," Trifunovic told SETimes.

He said the Chetnik Movement is wrong about other facts as well.

"Russia has been using the Kosovo crisis for its own purposes in Georgia and now in Ukraine, and it is obvious that this was the reason for its 'neutrality' and support for Serbia. Only the demystification of the Russian brotherhood could discourage Serbians from fighting for Russia's interests," Trifunovic said.

Trifunovic said he is concerned about the negative consequences of this small group's actions as well.

"The departure of these people to Crimea and their media appearances look like a pose by the whole nation, which is wrong. This also shows that Serbia hasn't done anything to stop them from going there. Both these things seriously impair the reputation of Serbia as a future EU member," he told SETimes.

"Serbia has to improve its legislation and put these kinds of situations and people who participate in them in a legal framework. We shouldn't forget the fact that Serbian citizens are participating in the conflict in Syria, as well," he said.

Jovanovic also said the state cannot continue to turn its head to its citizens fighting in foreign conflicts.

"Maybe after the damage that these extremists in Crimea are making to Serbia, the government will do something to discourage and punish all these volunteers that are going around the world to fight," Jovanovic told SETimes.

In January, the Social Democratic Party of Serbia proposed a new law that would sanction recruiters of foreign fighters with prison sentences of up to 12 years, and those who depart to participate in foreign wars with prison sentences of up to five years.

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#2 Mar 24, 2014
The law, which is still pending in parliament, would prevent participation of Serbian citizens in armed conflicts worldwide, regardless of whether for religious, material or other reasons. Deputy Prime Minister Rasim Ljajic said that if Serbs go to Crimea, it will impact Serbia's diplomatic position and such behaviour should be sanctioned.

"The departure of our citizens for wars in other countries or to join foreign military forces should be sanctioned, and we should amend the criminal code to allow that," Ljajic told reporters earlier this month.

Simka Djeldum, 87, a retired administrative worker, condemned the Serbs who are in Crimea.

"I cannot understand why they left. The state and the whole region are in a deep economic crisis and they have so many things to do here to help their own country. They must know that they can't be helpful to other countries if they do not help their own," Simka told SETimes.

The Serbian Ministry of Interior said it had no information on the issue, and Prime Minister Ivica Dacic did not respond to SETimes' request for comment.

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#3 Mar 24, 2014
Serbian war criminals lying. Who would have thought?
Manitu

Kursumlija, Serbia

#4 Mar 24, 2014
hehehehehehe. We will go again.

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#5 Mar 25, 2014
I don't think anyone cares what a bunch of EU/NATO loving traitors in Belgrade think.

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Hungary

#6 Mar 25, 2014
"Russia has been using the Kosovo crisis for its own purposes in Georgia and now in Ukraine, and it is obvious that this was the reason for its 'neutrality' and support for Serbia. Only the demystification of the Russian brotherhood could discourage Serbians from fighting for Russia's interests," Trifunovic said."

This is actually not far from the truth, hahaha. Some people indeed have their heads in the clouds.

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#7 Mar 25, 2014
There was nothing about 'heads in the clouds' when NATO bombed Belgrade or supported the shiptars in forming an artificial bandit 'state' out of south west Serbia, namely Kosovo.

In your face reality that. Nothing mystical about it. Given that, why wouldn't Serbia edge closer to Russia. Seems logical to me.

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Hungary

#8 Mar 25, 2014
Some have a short memory, but I remember the days when Serbs were best allies of the West in the Balkan.

In the 19th century, Karadorde Petrović, leader of Serbian Revolution, sent a letter to Napoleon expressing his admiration, while in the French parliament, Victor Hugo made a speech asking France to assist Serbia and to protect the Serbian population from Ottoman crimes.[6] Rapid development of bilateral relations followed, so that the people in Serbia saw a great new friend in "mighty France", that could protect them from the Ottomans and Habsburgs.[5] Relations between Serbia and France continued to improve until the First World War, when the "common struggle" against a common enemy reached its peak. Before the war France won the sympathy of the Serbian population by building railways, opening French Schools, a Consulate and a French Bank. Several Serbian kings from this period studied at universities in Paris, as well as large part of the future diplomats.[5] Serbs gained a sense of Francophile because all these activities moved them away from the Ottoman and Habsburg empires.[5] The Serbian-French alliance until 1914 even threatened the traditional inclination towards Russia. Great humanitarian and military assistance was sent by France to Serbia during the First World War, including assistance in the evacuation of children, civilians and military at the end of the war, and the support of French newspaper headlines. Even today, these actions remain deeply ingrained in the collective consciousness of a large number of Serbs.

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Prishtina, Kosovo

#9 Mar 25, 2014
Thats the only thing Serbs know how to do; LIE, DESTROY, MAKE FALSE STATEMENTS, ETC, ETC...
549 Motorizovana Brigada

Ljubljana, Slovenia

#10 Mar 25, 2014
prishtina wrote:
Thats the only thing Serbs know how to do; LIE, DESTROY, MAKE FALSE STATEMENTS, ETC, ETC...
albanian war crimes

www.kosovoliberationarmy.com

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#11 Mar 25, 2014
I don't see an issue, but being as I am skeptical of Russian foreign policy at times I'm just curious of the motive. Seeing as Russia did support Serbia with contract soldiers in the early and mid 90's it makes sense when the leader says his "initiative is to repay the Russians for their support of Serbia". As far as representing the Chetnik movement, he proposes that as if it is supposed to be the common bond that warrants them being there supporting Russian troops in a delicate international situation. The Cossacks, previous and existing, have virtually no ties to modern Russian government and if fact are often at odds with their own country's internal politics.

It seems like this leader of the Serb volunteers 'Malisic' is an overzealous naive individual justifying a reason to willingly take part in a potential international conflict, without regards to the damaging position he is putting his own country in, seeing as the West and Russia are already on tiptoes over this incident in Crimea. Not criticizing Serbian ties with Russia, but when a situation is this delicate it seems like an irresponsible and careless move on the part of a group of sympathetic volunteers to represent their nation by getting involved and putting Serbia in an awkward position.

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Genova, Italy

#12 Mar 25, 2014
In every statement Belgrade political exponents shall take,Russia or Ukraina,one of them, recognises Kosovo....

Since: Jun 13

Anywhere

#13 Mar 25, 2014
Hola
Its not easy to push you away from Internet, because we could maybe block it based on country borders (Ex-Yu), but you cannot do it worldwide for all ugly brainless people who moved out from those countries and now defending them online.
I am one of you guys, and i am shamed of all of us.
Especially Serbians, disaster - check out this post, one day like little russians, another west oriented, then little bit of fascism, but biggest antifascist people in history (dont bullshit about poor Draza, he is not worth of your words). At least Croatians are most hatred as nationalists, others worked very hard to give them image of bad ass, and they succeed, which you can see on forums worldwide. And that "danke deutschland" BS, which you are using for your failures, what is that?! Who is licking russian as...all of the time like little puppy, calling for help. You should see what was helpless if you were on the other side when Serbia and JNA had all of the power in their hands, and no west interrupted until few slaughters were already done....
Now i am expecting reply like Ustasa, jebem ti majku ustasku hrvatsku, blalbalablabala, HaHaHA Oliver Cromwell, su,,, it deeply we are in the same EU unless you are just pretending to be British.
All i can say is f.... you all, on all of the sides of Balkan Planet.
All from myself on this stupid subjects, going back to music and travel, more useful,,,,

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#14 Mar 25, 2014
prishtina wrote:
Thats the only thing Serbs know how to do; LIE, DESTROY, MAKE FALSE STATEMENTS, ETC, ETC...
You are not any better then they are.

When i am traveling around, lately i avoid to speak Croatian, as few times couple of Shiptars approached me and said that i we are allies against Serbian tribe.

Go back there and fight with them, stop ruin this planet. And btw take back this Croatian Janjevci that you pushed out of Kosovo, they didnt do any good in Croatia, same as Albanians.

True Croatian hates you as well, nothing less then others around.

Btw why they relate everything to stupid wars, nationalism, ustashi chetnicks partizans etc. this online people like to forget about drug and people trafficking? We know who is best in it...

:)

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#15 Mar 25, 2014
Russian puccies expelled from G8, now they're complaining :)))

Peskov: Izolacija Rusije iz G8 loša za sve

Kremlj smatra kontraproduktivnom nespremnost ostalih zemalja Grupe 8 da nastave saradnju s Rusijom, izjavio je u utorak u Moskvi portparol ruskog predsednika Dmitrij Peskov.

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#16 Mar 25, 2014
Vitez wrote:
Some have a short memory, but I remember the days when Serbs were best allies of the West in the Balkan.
In the 19th century, Karadorde Petrović, leader of Serbian Revolution, sent a letter to Napoleon expressing his admiration, while in the French parliament, Victor Hugo made a speech asking France to assist Serbia and to protect the Serbian population from Ottoman crimes.[6] Rapid development of bilateral relations followed, so that the people in Serbia saw a great new friend in "mighty France", that could protect them from the Ottomans and Habsburgs.[5] Relations between Serbia and France continued to improve until the First World War, when the "common struggle" against a common enemy reached its peak. Before the war France won the sympathy of the Serbian population by building railways, opening French Schools, a Consulate and a French Bank. Several Serbian kings from this period studied at universities in Paris, as well as large part of the future diplomats.[5] Serbs gained a sense of Francophile because all these activities moved them away from the Ottoman and Habsburg empires.[5] The Serbian-French alliance until 1914 even threatened the traditional inclination towards Russia. Great humanitarian and military assistance was sent by France to Serbia during the First World War, including assistance in the evacuation of children, civilians and military at the end of the war, and the support of French newspaper headlines. Even today, these actions remain deeply ingrained in the collective consciousness of a large number of Serbs.
Why don't you talk to the French and remind them of the above since they are the ones that betrayed the Serbs, supporting the military action against Serbia in the 90's, recognising some puppet Islamic mafia state carved out of the sovereign territory of Serbia.
To hell with the Brits and French.

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#17 Mar 25, 2014
servian animal servs , world mercenaries....thirsty for blood.....

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#18 Mar 25, 2014
Manitu wrote:
hehehehehehe. We will go again.
Hehehe. Stupid Serbos stop helping us. Didn't you read the article? It makes Serbia look bad and Serbs look insane. You're making it easy for us.

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#19 Mar 25, 2014
Mr Cro Pockets wrote:
I don't see an issue, but being as I am skeptical of Russian foreign policy at times I'm just curious of the motive. Seeing as Russia did support Serbia with contract soldiers in the early and mid 90's it makes sense when the leader says his "initiative is to repay the Russians for their support of Serbia". As far as representing the Chetnik movement, he proposes that as if it is supposed to be the common bond that warrants them being there supporting Russian troops in a delicate international situation. The Cossacks, previous and existing, have virtually no ties to modern Russian government and if fact are often at odds with their own country's internal politics.
It seems like this leader of the Serb volunteers 'Malisic' is an overzealous naive individual justifying a reason to willingly take part in a potential international conflict, without regards to the damaging position he is putting his own country in, seeing as the West and Russia are already on tiptoes over this incident in Crimea. Not criticizing Serbian ties with Russia, but when a situation is this delicate it seems like an irresponsible and careless move on the part of a group of sympathetic volunteers to represent their nation by getting involved and putting Serbia in an awkward position.
Hey Mr. Croat. That Serbian loser said that he got his experience fighting in Croatia, Bosnia and standing like loser in cold at barricades in Kosovo. I guess him fighting and killing Croats means nothing to you. Interesting.

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#20 Mar 25, 2014
" ...and war will break out. Probably over some damn fool thing in the Balkans....."

Winston Churchill,1910/11.

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