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Kosovo allocates $6 mln to "integrate" Serb-populated north

There are 37 comments on the RIA Novosti story from Aug 25, 2010, titled Kosovo allocates $6 mln to "integrate" Serb-populated north. In it, RIA Novosti reports that:

"The money will be used to integrate the north and implement state projects in this part of the country" 02:59 26/08/2010 © RIA Novosti.

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#21 Sep 6, 2010
agron wrote:
<quoted text> . P.S I have hard in the FYROM newses that 41% of the children from 0 to 18 in FYROM are Albanians ;) good or not?
Backward Shiptars dont use birth control.
Stupid muslims.
CJM

Skopje, Macedonia

#23 Sep 7, 2010
agron wrote:
<quoted text> We will see it slavic boy. The one who has fear talks to much and thats natural, as for the issue of Albania and how proud am i i think youre the last person to speak about it. At least i dont go stealing Greek history, Albainans heros and byzantium religion ;). Slavs ( especially Servs and FYROMians) are same shit...you call greeks ethopians while all the world knows who you are and they call us arabs or caucasians while at least we do have a unique European langauge, unique traditions, symbols ext. I hope you to be here in this forum and not to change you name in 2014 or 2015. I was here even in 2007 and even some Servian prophets spoke different at that time but now they are all gone, even thouse warriors who would have fought for Kosovo if it would have claimed independece but now were in 2010 and nothing has happened. P.S I have hard in the FYROM newses that 41% of the children from 0 to 18 in FYROM are Albanians ;) good or not?
If you believe we steal Greek history then why have you recognized us as Macedonia? Fyromians is only for forums but in your private conversations you call us Macedonians. Stealing Albanian heros? What heros do you have? Christianity is the biggest world religion. It didn't even started in Byzantium... 30% of the Albanian population is Christian and the rest are only betrayers who converted to Islam or Asians brought by the Turks.
There're 3 group of European languages: Slavic, German and Roman. What group does Albanian belong to?
If you count the number of children at school that study Albanian your percent is around 25% but who knows there're many who don't go at school and other not born in hospital. We don't have information about their %. Maybe when UN will be organizing census in Pakistan and Afghanistan we should invite them to count your number here.
Fatos Nano

Greece

#24 Sep 7, 2010
CJM wrote:
<quoted text>
If you believe we steal Greek history then why have you recognized us as Macedonia?


check 0:57 “WE INVENTED IT”!!!!!

The idea that Alexander the Great was something that belonged to our history was in the minds of some extremist political groups only! These groups were insignificant the first years of our independence, but the big problem is that the old Balkan Nations have been used to be legitimized through their history. In the Balkans, if you want to be recognized as a Nation, you need to have history 3000 years old. So since you made us invent a history, WE INVENTED IT (…) You forced us to the arms of the extreme nationalists who today claim that we are direct descendants of Alexander the Great!

Denko Maleski, first Minister of foreign affairs of FYROM (1991 to 1993) and ambassador to the United Nations from 1993 to 1997, in an interview to Greek TV channel Mega, November 2006

GREAT INVENTORS !!!!!

Fyromian Prime Minister admit “We have no connection with Alexander The Great, we belong to Slavic people”

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Finally lets see how Alexander said

"Men of Athens,....I AM MYSELF A GREEK BY DESCENT.........I am Alexander of Macedon."

http://classics.mit.edu/Herodotus/history.9.i...
CJM wrote:
<quoted text>
There're 3 group of European languages: Slavic, German and Roman. What group does Albanian belong to?
It seems you forgot the oldest language spoken till today. But not surprise me if you distort every thing Greek.
CJM

Skopje, Macedonia

#25 Sep 7, 2010
Fatos Nano wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =dlDLmufGHqQXX
check 0:57 “WE INVENTED IT”!!!!!
The idea that Alexander the Great was something that belonged to our history was in the minds of some extremist political groups only! These groups were insignificant the first years of our independence, but the big problem is that the old Balkan Nations have been used to be legitimized through their history. In the Balkans, if you want to be recognized as a Nation, you need to have history 3000 years old. So since you made us invent a history, WE INVENTED IT (…) You forced us to the arms of the extreme nationalists who today claim that we are direct descendants of Alexander the Great!
Denko Maleski, first Minister of foreign affairs of FYROM (1991 to 1993) and ambassador to the United Nations from 1993 to 1997, in an interview to Greek TV channel Mega, November 2006
GREAT INVENTORS !!!!!
Fyromian Prime Minister admit “We have no connection with Alexander The Great, we belong to Slavic people”
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

<quoted text>
It seems you forgot the oldest language spoken till today. But not surprise me if you distort every thing Greek.
He meant that we culturally aren't related to the ancient Macedonians. If there's something that confuses you: "modern Macedonians are Slavs".
Read explanation in wikipedia about the modern Macedonian language.

We were discussing the European language families not uncategorized languages spoken around Europe.
Well Said

Árta, Greece

#26 Sep 7, 2010
CJM wrote:
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He meant that we culturally aren't related to the ancient Macedonians.
Ofcourse you cant be related with any way with Ancient Macedonians, you belong to slavic people, not to Greek.
CJM wrote:
<quoted text>
If there's something that confuses you: "modern Macedonians are Slavs".
I know that. But don't tell that you are not informed about new fashion in your country ?
"We are not slavic people, we are descedants of ancient macedonians".

It really makes me wonder, why is it shame for your people to accept their slavic identity ?
Since when it is shame to belong to slavic people? There are more than 300 million of slavic people in the world.
Well Said

Árta, Greece

#27 Sep 7, 2010
CJM wrote:
<quoted text>
We were discussing the European language families not uncategorized languages spoken around Europe.
really? so Greek language is one of the uncategorized language spoken around europe? What r u smoke up there? Or did they teach you hate everything Greek?
Greek and Latin language is the root of western languages.
Never teach you in Vardarska that most of the names in every science named with Greek names?

Uncategorized language spoken around Europe huh?

Nice educational system...

Since: Mar 07

Prishtina, Kosovo

#29 Sep 8, 2010
CJM wrote:
<quoted text>
He meant that we culturally aren't related to the ancient Macedonians. If there's something that confuses you: "modern Macedonians are Slavs".
Read explanation in wikipedia about the modern Macedonian language.
We were discussing the European language families not uncategorized languages spoken around Europe.
do you have a history in your previous past slave?
clubb

Skopje, Macedonia

#30 Sep 8, 2010
Well Said wrote:
<quoted text>
Ofcourse you cant be related with any way with Ancient Macedonians, you belong to slavic people, not to Greek.
<quoted text>
I know that. But don't tell that you are not informed about new fashion in your country ?
"We are not slavic people, we are descedants of ancient macedonians".
It really makes me wonder, why is it shame for your people to accept their slavic identity ?
Since when it is shame to belong to slavic people? There are more than 300 million of slavic people in the world.
We're not culturally related to ancient Macedonians but genetically yes. They were not Greeks too but separate tribe. Some Macedonians are pissed when you wanna replace calling us Macedonians with calling us Slavs like you did with our minority in Greece.
Of course it's not shameful being Slavs. Not only the number, but our power, unity, inventions, pretty women, and respect we got from the rest of the world.

I don't wanna insult you but it's truth that Greek doesn't belong to any category. Actually I talked about Albanian and you mentioned Greek. Latin is the base for the languages of the Roman family and old Greek to modern Greek. It's truth many scientific disciplines have Greek names. Your letters are used in maths. We respect your culture but dislike your politicians.

@Prishtina - No, we don't have such a shameful history like you do, but do have a better present and future too...
well said

Ioánnina, Greece

#31 Sep 8, 2010
clubb wrote:
<quoted text>
We're not culturally related to ancient Macedonians but genetically yes. They were not Greeks too but separate tribe.
Bre Fyromian Alexander himself identified himself as GREEK many many times

"Men of Athens,....I AM MYSELF A GREEK BY DESCENT.........I am Alexander of Macedon."

http://classics.mit.edu/Herodotus/history.9.i...

or Herodotus known as “Father of History” is just a lier?
clubb wrote:
<quoted text>
Some Macedonians are pissed when you wanna replace calling us Macedonians with calling us Slavs like you did with our minority in Greece.
Simple questions. Do you belong to Slavic people or not?????
clubb wrote:
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I don't wanna insult you but it's truth that Greek doesn't belong to any category. Latin is the base for the languages
Bre Fyromian Greek language is OLDER than Latin.

http://www.chemistrydaily.com/chemistry/Greek...

Greek language
The Greek language (Greek &#917;&#955;&#955; &#951;&#957;&#953; &#954;&#940;, IPA – "Hellenic") is an Indo-European language with a documented history of some 3,000 years. Ancient Greek in its various forms was the language both of classical Greek civilisation and of the origins of Christianity, and was a first or second language over a large part of the Roman Empire. It has been studied in schools and universities in many countries from the Renaissance onwards. Modern Greek, which differs in many ways from Ancient Greek but is still recognisably the same language
Even Holly Bible is written in Greek.

Check by yourself how many Greek words are used in English language

http://members.multimania.co.uk/petridis/word...

wtf they teach you up there? Only to hate everything Greek ?

“MALE PRIDE!”

Since: Nov 09

York, UK

#32 Sep 8, 2010
Another example of democracy in Kosovo, despite of budget deficit, the government sacrefices money to help Serbian minority.
CJM

Skopje, Macedonia

#33 Sep 8, 2010
well said wrote:
<quoted text>
Bre Fyromian Alexander himself identified himself as GREEK many many times
"Men of Athens,....I AM MYSELF A GREEK BY DESCENT.........I am Alexander of Macedon."
http://classics.mit.edu/Herodotus/history.9.i...
or Herodotus known as “Father of History” is just a lier?
<quoted text>
Simple questions. Do you belong to Slavic people or not?????
<quoted text>
Bre Fyromian Greek language is OLDER than Latin.
http://www.chemistrydaily.com/chemistry/Greek...
Greek language
The Greek language (Greek &#917;&#955;&#955; &#951;&#957;&#953; &#954;&#940;, IPA – "Hellenic") is an Indo-European language with a documented history of some 3,000 years. Ancient Greek in its various forms was the language both of classical Greek civilisation and of the origins of Christianity, and was a first or second language over a large part of the Roman Empire. It has been studied in schools and universities in many countries from the Renaissance onwards. Modern Greek, which differs in many ways from Ancient Greek but is still recognisably the same language
Even Holly Bible is written in Greek.
Check by yourself how many Greek words are used in English language
http://members.multimania.co.uk/petridis/word...
wtf they teach you up there? Only to hate everything Greek ?
WTF is "bre"? The eldest human word? The ultimate and only said by God when created the world? God spoke Greek too? Jews spoke Greek when wrote the bible? Maybe you're going to classify the Hebrew in your imaginary Greek language tree.
Greeks were calling the Macedonians barbarians and said they speak Barbarian language not understandable for them. How come he enslaved his own people? But why do u mention him at all we speak here about the Macedonians of the 21st century. Greek was the language of the enslaved people in Byzantium. Romans were ruling the Roman empire. Why do u hate the Vlachs that much?
What does those Greek words in English language should prove? You'll make them to change the name of their language? Force them to put you in the same group of languages?
Apis

Belgrade, Serbia

#34 Sep 8, 2010
Knight Hospitaller wrote:
Another example of democracy in Kosovo, despite of budget deficit, the government sacrefices money to help Serbian minority.
It was EU dictat.

The Turko-Albanian Katunars cannot help themselves, let alone to help Kosovo Serbs.
Well Said

Mésis, Greece

#35 Sep 8, 2010
CJM wrote:
<quoted text>
WTF is "bre"? The eldest human word? The ultimate and only said by God when created the world? God spoke Greek too? Jews spoke Greek when wrote the bible? Maybe you're going to classify the Hebrew in your imaginary Greek language tree.
Greeks were calling the Macedonians barbarians and said they speak Barbarian language not understandable for them. How come he enslaved his own people? But why do u mention him at all we speak here about the Macedonians of the 21st century. Greek was the language of the enslaved people in Byzantium. Romans were ruling the Roman empire. Why do u hate the Vlachs that much?
What does those Greek words in English language should prove? You'll make them to change the name of their language? Force them to put you in the same group of languages?
About Barbarians

Demosthenes (Athens, 383-322BC), was an ancient statesman and was the most fanatical enemy of Philippos II and his son Alexander III. He wrote 3 speeches named as Philippics (351BC, 344BC, 341BC) in order to organize the Athenians against the hegemony of Macedonia and the establishment of monarchy in Greece, and 3 more the "Olynthiacs" (349BC) to encourage the reiged by Philippos Olynthias in their resistance. In the 3rd Philippic and in the 3rd Olynthiac he refers to Philippos as a barbarian. That alone shows how much he hated Philippos. The ancient Greeks considered barbarian (=uncivilized), and it was very offending to call someone a barbarian.

Since the word barbarian was an offence for the Greeks then Demosthenes would naturally use it to humiliate his enemy, that he hated. But why would Philippos be humiliated ? Because he was a Greek and considered the word barbarian as an offence, otherwise the word barbarian wouldn't be offensive for him, and Demosthenes' attempt to humiliate him would be a failure.
Also the political system of Macedonia (monarchy) wasn't Demosthenes' favorite, who believed that a civilized person should support only democracy. Since Philippos was a king (against democracy) and supported monarchy (as did the barbarian (non-Greek) nations) Demosthenes considered him uncivilized - a barbarian.
The ancient Macedonians, as well as the ancient Hepirotes (both Greek tribes), were geographically isolated from the other Greek tribes. The rest of the Greeks regarded them as barbarians in their political system (monarchy) and not in their phyletical identity.

Read Herodotus again.

http://classics.mit.edu/Herodotus/history.9.i...

"Men of Athens,....I AM MYSELF A GREEK BY DESCENT.........I am Alexander of Macedon."

Is Herodotus (known as “Father of History”) a lier?

do you want to provide you TONS OF EVIDENCES about Greekness of Macedonia or to prove that Fyromians are Bulgarian Origin?
Feel free to ask..

Before few post, you admit "Modern Macedonians are Slavs"
Finally, are you Slavic people or not?

If yes then END OF STORY. NO CONNECTION WITH ANCIENT GREEK MACEDONIA

If not, then try to explain to other 400.000.000 of respectable Slavic people why are you ashamed of your Identity.

So much brainwashing in Vardarska....
CJM

Skopje, Macedonia

#36 Sep 8, 2010
Well Said wrote:
<quoted text>
About Barbarians
Demosthenes (Athens, 383-322BC), was an ancient statesman and was the most fanatical enemy of Philippos II and his son Alexander III. He wrote 3 speeches named as Philippics (351BC, 344BC, 341BC) in order to organize the Athenians against the hegemony of Macedonia and the establishment of monarchy in Greece, and 3 more the "Olynthiacs" (349BC) to encourage the reiged by Philippos Olynthias in their resistance. In the 3rd Philippic and in the 3rd Olynthiac he refers to Philippos as a barbarian. That alone shows how much he hated Philippos. The ancient Greeks considered barbarian (=uncivilized), and it was very offending to call someone a barbarian.
Since the word barbarian was an offence for the Greeks then Demosthenes would naturally use it to humiliate his enemy, that he hated. But why would Philippos be humiliated ? Because he was a Greek and considered the word barbarian as an offence, otherwise the word barbarian wouldn't be offensive for him, and Demosthenes' attempt to humiliate him would be a failure.
Also the political system of Macedonia (monarchy) wasn't Demosthenes' favorite, who believed that a civilized person should support only democracy. Since Philippos was a king (against democracy) and supported monarchy (as did the barbarian (non-Greek) nations) Demosthenes considered him uncivilized - a barbarian.
The ancient Macedonians, as well as the ancient Hepirotes (both Greek tribes), were geographically isolated from the other Greek tribes. The rest of the Greeks regarded them as barbarians in their political system (monarchy) and not in their phyletical identity.
Read Herodotus again.
http://classics.mit.edu/Herodotus/history.9.i...
"Men of Athens,....I AM MYSELF A GREEK BY DESCENT.........I am Alexander of Macedon."
Is Herodotus (known as “Father of History”) a lier?
do you want to provide you TONS OF EVIDENCES about Greekness of Macedonia or to prove that Fyromians are Bulgarian Origin?
Feel free to ask..
Before few post, you admit "Modern Macedonians are Slavs"
Finally, are you Slavic people or not?
If yes then END OF STORY. NO CONNECTION WITH ANCIENT GREEK MACEDONIA
If not, then try to explain to other 400.000.000 of respectable Slavic people why are you ashamed of your Identity.
So much brainwashing in Vardarska....
You can invent million legends about what was happening in old Greece etc. it doesn't matter and doesn't mean anything
So according to you if someone is Slav then he can't be Macedonian in the same time? But there're not pure nations anymore. You know that many Slavic nations are aware that they have roots of more old tribes. Bulgarians are related to the old Bulgarians, Croats and Serbs to Illirians, Czech and Slovaks are mixed with Germans etc.
When Slavs came at the Balkan almost all ancient tribes accepted the Slavic language but kept their tradition, lifestyle and names.Slavs hadn't consciousness of nation.This's why there wasn't created one single Slavic nation but Macedonians, Serbians, Croats etc. Americans call themselves Americans even though they're immigrants. Egyptians speak Arab but they're still the decedents of the ancient Egyptians.
However we believe we're Macedonians, our country is called Macedonia and language and nation known as Macedonian from very longer time before 1945. I don't care if you believe in those myths and think I'm stealing something from u. We choose what we do with us and if you can to change something do it ... if not stop bothering us with your all the same speeches...
well said

Corfu, Greece

#37 Sep 9, 2010
CJM wrote:
<quoted text>
You can invent million legends about what was happening in old Greece etc. it doesn't matter and doesn't mean anything
Sorry to disappoint you, but we are not the INVENTORS in the Balkans,



check 0:57 “WE INVENTED IT”!!!!!

The idea that Alexander the Great was something that belonged to our history was in the minds of some extremist political groups only! These groups were insignificant the first years of our independence, but the big problem is that the old Balkan Nations have been used to be legitimized through their history. In the Balkans, if you want to be recognized as a Nation, you need to have history 3000 years old. So since you made us invent a history, WE INVENTED IT (…) You forced us to the arms of the extreme nationalists who today claim that we are direct descendants of Alexander the Great!

Denko Maleski, first Minister of foreign affairs of FYROM (1991 to 1993) and ambassador to the United Nations from 1993 to 1997, in an interview to Greek TV channel Mega, November 2006

GREAT INVENTORS !!!!!
CJM wrote:
<quoted text>
So according to you if someone is Slav then he can't be Macedonian in the same time?
He is a person of Slavic origin (Bulgarian origin) living in area of Macedonia and has nothing to do with Ancient Macedonian history.
Besides, you are living in PAEONIA area.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Paeonia%26E...

only 10% of Ancient Macedonian territory is in your borders

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Macedonian_...
CJM wrote:
<quoted text>
However we believe we're Macedonians…
And I believe I am from MARS
CJM wrote:
<quoted text>
We choose what we do with us and if you can to change something do it ... if not stop bothering us with your all the same speeches...
You can choose what you want… But we still can fight for the truth.
This a part of letter written and signed it by 367 Graeco-Roman antiquity scholars.
I will post only the end, if u r interesting click link to read it.

http://macedonia-evidence.org/obama-letter.ht...

“We call upon you, Mr. President, to help - in whatever ways you deem appropriate - the government in Skopje to understand that it cannot build a national identity at the expense of historic truth. Our common international society cannot survive when history is ignored, much less when history is fabricated.”

Signed not by 6 not by 7 but by 367 Graeco-Roman antiquity scholars all over the world.

“the pros and cons”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#38 Sep 9, 2010
cant believe they did not cheat with the figures, shall i say twice as big,what difference would it make!

“MALE PRIDE!”

Since: Nov 09

York, UK

#39 Sep 11, 2010
Apis wrote:
<quoted text>
It was EU dictat.
The Turko-Albanian Katunars cannot help themselves, let alone to help Kosovo Serbs.
Dictat....How can you prove that?

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