Operation Barbarossa: Orgy of rape an...

Operation Barbarossa: Orgy of rape and genocide launched by Hitler against Russia

There are 107 comments on the www.dailymail.co.uk story from Jun 23, 2011, titled Operation Barbarossa: Orgy of rape and genocide launched by Hitler against Russia. In it, www.dailymail.co.uk reports that:

Hitler, appealing to history, called his campaign Operation Barbarossa, after a daring and expansionist medieval German emperor. But what happened was nothing short of barbarism, on a scale never seen before in modern Europe.

The numbers of troops involved were colossal, almost too large to take in. Over the next four years, five million German soldiers were to die on the Eastern Front and as many again taken prisoner.

Soviet losses would approach a mind-boggling 27 million, of whom two-thirds were civilians. Hitler urged his generals to fight ‘a battle of annihilation’ and commanders made it clear that murder, rape and looting were not only allowed, but actively encouraged.

But going east proved to be Hitler’s greatest mistake, the one that lost him the war.

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Stanford Pratt

Des Moines, IA

#91 Jul 2, 2011
ronan wrote:
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You keep on harping about the USSR as it never ceased to exist. That's your mental problem!
I have problem with East European countries in the EU!
Why do you have a problem with it, my friend??????
ronan

Bristol, UK

#92 Jul 2, 2011
Pro Ukraine wrote:
<quoted text>At least you don't think that the EU is an evil empire like Uther Pendragon, of course the United States of Europe could never work.
With regards to the new Russian Empire which you propose that couldn't work either, of course it would have the added attraction for you of states such as Ukraine and Georgia being unable to join the EU. You think like Putin it's exactly what he'd like, but what he ain't gonna get.
The EU is not an empire; it's far to divided (thanksfully) to become one.
I hope that neither Ukraine, nor Georgia will ever join the EU.
I think the EU should throw out countries like the Baltics, Poland, Bulgaria and Romania too!
The only interesting partner I see for Western Europe is Russia, and not these insignificant troublesome countries.
ronan

Bristol, UK

#93 Jul 2, 2011
Stanford Pratt wrote:
<quoted text>Why do you have a problem with it, my friend??????
Because the EU isn't a charity, and East European countries want to join the EU for the wrong reasons; not to build Europe, but to exploit it. For them, membership of the EU is a meal ticket...

“Dimitri at the races in Russia”

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#94 Jul 3, 2011
Even though, currently Slovakia´s benefiting from EU, but we still are one of the better members of EU.
Third lowest indebtedness of all members, second best economy (GNP) of all too.
Over 80 % of Slovaks are happy to be part of it.
Current difficulties of EU were created by dishonest Greek´s goat herders by cheating, milking & doctoring documents.
I just wonder where were all those kraut & frog bankers when money were offered to these Greeks.
Annie

UK

#95 Jul 3, 2011
ronan wrote:
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Before Eastern Europe can generate any business within the EU, it has first to be bailed out, subsidised, receive funds and grants and all sort of financial help paid by Western Europe. That has been the story so far.
What we end up having is mass migration of Eastern Europeans in Western Europe, completely unbalancing the job market, and at great cost to the host countries (schools, hospitals, social services, housing). Who benefit from it in the long run?
well clearly the UK based on what business leaders are saying. Most of the people running & providing services in the UK are foreign and in many cases they are not from the EU. At least if you have workers from the EU the whole economic unit benefits in the long run by utilising skills which may otherwise go to waste within said unit.
ronan wrote:
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The EU can perfectly trade with some countries without integrating them, taking them under its wings and having to support their economy.
That's not true. The infrastructure created by the EU simplifies trade and reduces cost and risk. Investment into these countries will reap rewards for the entire unit in the long run. Such investment without the formal structure of the EU would be patchy and short term. As with any business, you need investment to create value which far outweighs the investment.
ronan wrote:
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It is also not a good solution to fight poor work ethics among the unskilled of our society by bringing cheaper labour from abroad that regularly undercut them on the job market. Now the plea from the government is to 'employ British people for British jobs'. Well, it's too late!
That's a domestic issue and nothing to do with the extended EU. The erosion of skills and work ethic is what needs to be addressed rather than complaining about the symptoms.
ronan wrote:
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Also, countries like the Baltics and Poland are losing population since their EU entry. That cannot be very profitable for them to see their skilled and educated workforce migrating. The same would happen with Ukraine, which is already bleeding and losing its population. Entry in the EU would mean massive exodus towards Western Europe. Not a good thing for the country itself, surely.
That's a short term situation. Migrants return. In the case of the extended EU the labour force is quite fluid and moves back and forth. This fills seasonal gaps in the UK and enables workers to gain skills and learn about different languages and cultures which helps future business relationships between the UK and other countries.
Annie

UK

#96 Jul 3, 2011
ronan wrote:
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I always think that; most of these countries would be better off as part of Russia.
Russia has changed a lot since the end of communism and is a different country.
But in their appreciation, they keep thinking of Russia in terms of bolshevism, socialism and so on...
Just because Russia has changed, why would that mean that its neighbours should surrender their sovereignity?
Latvietis

Toronto, Canada

#98 Jul 4, 2011
ronan wrote:
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The EU is not an empire; it's far to divided (thanksfully) to become one.
I hope that neither Ukraine, nor Georgia will ever join the EU.
I think the EU should throw out countries like the Baltics, Poland, Bulgaria and Romania too!
The only interesting partner I see for Western Europe is Russia, and not these insignificant troublesome countries.
The troubled EU countries can learn from how the Baltics coped with their Financial crisis. Their Internal devaluations have created a solid base for recovery, although the path ahead is still rocky. Unemployment is down, business lending and investment are returning.

Russia will not be considered a partner while their democratic credentials are shaky. Russia sells commodities, and its production is grossly inefficient. Commodities are bulk items that can be bought from any source, and Russia relies on the European market much more than Europe is dependent on Russian commodities. Bottom line is that Russia will not have partners in Europe unless they play ball with Europe.
Small Town America UGX

Oakland, CA

#99 Jul 4, 2011
Pro Ukraine wrote:
<quoted text>It would be the USSR in all but name, you actually want to re-unify the FSU countries! Do you really think that all of those countries which have had a taste of freedom would subscribe to that?
I have no problem with the countries of Eastern Europe being in the EU, in fact it should eventually contain all of the countries in Europe, except Switzerland and one other, guess which?:)
Fake countries like the Ukraine translated to border.
Small Town America UGX

Oakland, CA

#100 Jul 4, 2011
coolncrazy wrote:
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Any citizen of Russia is Russian. Maybe not ethnic Russian, but just Russian.
I disagree. That would mean all those individuals lying Russians are oppressing them so they can get into the US are Russian. A Russian born in China is not Chinese same concept in Russia.
ronan

Bristol, UK

#101 Jul 4, 2011
Annie wrote:
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Just because Russia has changed, why would that mean that its neighbours should surrender their sovereignity?
If they join the EU, they slowly surrender their sovereignty as well, just like we have! Maybe you haven't noticed?
Pro Ukraine

UK

#102 Jul 4, 2011
Small Town America UGX wrote:
<quoted text> Fake countries like the Ukraine translated to border.
For someone who claims to have been to Harvard you make some stupid comments. Ukraine is a real country. If any country in Europe is fake it's Pesky's SLOvakia, it's a mixture of Hungarian Gypsies(Pesky), Czechs, Poles, Ukrainians and Austrians, if it was split up between those countries no one would miss it.(-:
Pro Ukraine

UK

#103 Jul 4, 2011
ronan wrote:
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If they join the EU, they slowly surrender their sovereignty as well, just like we have! Maybe you haven't noticed?
It's not the same as becoming part of a different country. The capital of the UK is London not Brussels. It's no surprise to anyone on here that you support Russian imperialism. A better solution would be for Russia to split into several republics.
Small Town America UGX

Oakland, CA

#104 Jul 4, 2011
Pro Ukraine wrote:
<quoted text>For someone who claims to have been to Harvard you make some stupid comments. Ukraine is a real country. If any country in Europe is fake it's Pesky's SLOvakia, it's a mixture of Hungarian Gypsies(Pesky), Czechs, Poles, Ukrainians and Austrians, if it was split up between those countries no one would miss it.(-:
Ukraine means border. End of story.
Pro Ukraine

UK

#105 Jul 4, 2011
Small Town America UGX wrote:
<quoted text> Ukraine means border. End of story.
The literal translation from Ukrainian is "in land". Whether you like it or not Ukraine is a country and the Moskali aren't getting it back, you dumb nazi RuSSian poofter.
Small Town America UGX

Oakland, CA

#106 Jul 4, 2011
Pro Ukraine wrote:
<quoted text>The literal translation from Ukrainian is "in land". Whether you like it or not Ukraine is a country and the Moskali aren't getting it back, you dumb nazi RuSSian poofter.
Still crying!! Please it means border or really edge and you know it. In fact your alledged people are referred to as Little Russians throughout history while Russians are called Great Russians. Youre as much a country as Siberia.
Pro Ukraine

UK

#107 Jul 4, 2011
Small Town America UGX wrote:
<quoted text> Still crying!! Please it means border or really edge and you know it. In fact your alledged people are referred to as Little Russians throughout history while Russians are called Great Russians. Youre as much a country as Siberia.
It's you that's crying. I already told you what the literal translation is. Little Russians was a derogatory term used by Catherine the great, only dumbos used it. Ukraine is an independent country, Siberia isn't, so how do you work that one out, you dimwit?
Small Town America UGX

Oakland, CA

#108 Jul 4, 2011
Pro Ukraine wrote:
<quoted text>It's you that's crying. I already told you what the literal translation is. Little Russians was a derogatory term used by Catherine the great, only dumbos used it. Ukraine is an independent country, Siberia isn't, so how do you work that one out, you dimwit?
You mean the same Cathrine who brought in tons of Germans into your fake country to create a German region or the Hungarians, Austrians, Poles, Galiciens, Lithuanians who arent Russian and on the western side. Ukraine means borderland. The term Little Russia has been used since the 14th century by Constantinople patriarchs.
AbeUG

Yorktown Heights, NY

#109 Jul 4, 2011
Small Town America UGX wrote:
<quoted text> Fake countries like the Ukraine translated to border.
What is wrong with you?

Only Anti-Ukrainian bigots and extremists think Ukraine is a "fake country".
Small Town America UGX

Oakland, CA

#110 Jul 4, 2011
AbeUG wrote:
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What is wrong with you?
Only Anti-Ukrainian bigots and extremists think Ukraine is a "fake country".
History speaks for itself. Those who believe in a Ukraine are the bigots.
ronan

Bristol, UK

#112 Jul 4, 2011
Small Town America UGX wrote:
<quoted text> Still crying!! Please it means border or really edge and you know it. In fact your alledged people are referred to as Little Russians throughout history while Russians are called Great Russians. Youre as much a country as Siberia.
Doesn't Ukraine mean "end of the land" ?

You are right, in WEestern Europe in the 18th and 19th century, Ukrainians were called Little Russians.

I bet they don't like to hear that now !!!LOL

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