One dead in Yates County plane crash

One dead in Yates County plane crash

There are 7 comments on the Democrat & Chronicle story from Dec 22, 2010, titled One dead in Yates County plane crash. In it, Democrat & Chronicle reports that:

One person died in a single-engine plane crash in Yates County tonight. According to the Yates County Sheriff's Office, the crash took place about 7:50 p.m. near Route 230 in the town of Barrington.

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5 Foot 7 equals WOP

United States

#1 Dec 23, 2010
Where is cigar Dave to report on this? Is he hiding? He never missed a chance to be on camera before...

maddog2008

Since: Sep 08

Rochester, NY

#2 Dec 23, 2010
5 Foot 7 equals WOP wrote:
Where is cigar Dave to report on this? Is he hiding? He never missed a chance to be on camera before...
He crashed outside of the airport's controled air space,has nothing to do with the Rochester Airport.They say it might have been caused by ice,I don't think so. If it is the same model aircraft they are showing on TV (Mooney 201 or 231),it is most likey to have been IFR and "known ice" rated.Just saying.

Since: Apr 09

Kitty Hawk, NC

#3 Dec 24, 2010
I'm a retired pilot. This Mooney Ovation is not approved to fly in known icing. The Dr. simply flew this small plane in a weather situation he shouldn't have. We have a term for this: "Get home-itis". Or in this case "Get to work-itis". He was depending on a mode of transportation that is very iffy in Upstate NY this time of year.

There's even another (unofficial) term that is whispered among pilots when discussing doctors who own and fly their own airplanes. In the past many Doctors owned Beechcraft Vee-tail Bonanza's. The term was "Fork tailed Doctor killer" because many of them flew into weather situations far beyond the pilot and/or airplane capabilities.

Since: Apr 09

Kitty Hawk, NC

#4 Dec 24, 2010
Here is a link to a photo of the airplane before it was rolled up into a ball:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Mooney-M-20R-O...

maddog2008

Since: Sep 08

Rochester, NY

#5 Dec 24, 2010
glasspilot wrote:
I'm a retired pilot. This Mooney Ovation is not approved to fly in known icing. The Dr. simply flew this small plane in a weather situation he shouldn't have. We have a term for this: "Get home-itis". Or in this case "Get to work-itis". He was depending on a mode of transportation that is very iffy in Upstate NY this time of year.
There's even another (unofficial) term that is whispered among pilots when discussing doctors who own and fly their own airplanes. In the past many Doctors owned Beechcraft Vee-tail Bonanza's. The term was "Fork tailed Doctor killer" because many of them flew into weather situations far beyond the pilot and/or airplane capabilities.
Wasn't the 201,231 offered with a deicing option? I don't have any time in either of them,a friend owns one and his is rated "know ice". When I was flying out of N.J. there was a doctor that had a Bonanza A-36(?) and slammed it into the runway while trying to land in a high cross wind.I think that the doctors own them because they looked "sporty".They were a hand full in bad weather.He was lucky and didn't get hurt all that bad,then he got smart and bought a Skyhawk.Have a Merry Christmas.

Since: Apr 09

Kitty Hawk, NC

#6 Dec 24, 2010
Hey Maddog! When I looked at the photo I didn't see de-ice boots on the tail surfaces. In that pic you can't see the wing leading edges. So I'm going to say this plane didn't have any de-icing capability.

That said, many small planes may have "some" de or anti icing equipment BUT STILL NOT BE LEGAL to fly in "known icing". The Dr. in question should have obtained a full weather briefing before taking off. I guarantee that weather briefing that day would have told him there was severe icing conditions in Upstate NY, and that plane was not certified to fly into that area.

maddog2008

Since: Sep 08

Rochester, NY

#7 Dec 24, 2010
glasspilot wrote:
Hey Maddog! When I looked at the photo I didn't see de-ice boots on the tail surfaces. In that pic you can't see the wing leading edges. So I'm going to say this plane didn't have any de-icing capability.
That said, many small planes may have "some" de or anti icing equipment BUT STILL NOT BE LEGAL to fly in "known icing". The Dr. in question should have obtained a full weather briefing before taking off. I guarantee that weather briefing that day would have told him there was severe icing conditions in Upstate NY, and that plane was not certified to fly into that area.
You are right,I didn't look at the photo all that close.As much as I hate to say it,but I will,most doctors (sorry doc's) don't check weather briefings as much as they should.But then again many pilots fly when they shouldn't,hate to say it but I know that I have and was lucky enough to get away with it.Did I get the model right,A-36?,it's been a long time since I have even seen one.Take care and happy landings.

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