Huge solar farm promises clean energy, good jobs

This Wyandot County solar farm has a long-term contract with AEP and the type of solar arrays proposed for the new site, but it is much smaller. Full Story
Band Aids

Apple Creek, OH

#21 Oct 6, 2010
While admirable in some respects, this is a huge waste of time and money, when compared to base-load fossil fuel plants.

Solar costs approximately five times per megawatt more than fossil fuel to build, and is nowhere near as reliable.

This whole "green jobs" stuff is political posturing, Here in Ohio, West Virginia and Kentucky, we have lots and lots and lots of COAL! Let's all remember that clean coal technology is real, and coal-fired plants produce far more construction and high-paying permanent jobs: from the mines, to the barges, to the control room.
Modern Esquire

Cincinnati, OH

#22 Oct 6, 2010
watcher wrote:
And with all this Stimulus money flowing we have no USA based companies that can make these solar panels. Why are we buying from Spain?
Makes me sick to read this crap presented as good news. What is wrong with these people?
One, the panels are going to be made in Ohio. Second, there are firms up in Toledo that also manufacture solar panels.
Modern Esquire

Cincinnati, OH

#23 Oct 6, 2010
Bob wrote:
If this farm is made up of all things Ohio, including the technology, why do we need spain ?
Because they have the propriety tracking system needed to make it efficient, and they're willing to take the risk and make the investment for the project? Geez.
Guess Who

Columbus, OH

#24 Oct 6, 2010
Why are they using a Spanish company. Aren't there supposed to be companies doing that in the US. Isn't that what Obama is pushing for? Why farm it out to a Spanish company?
Glasnos

Fabens, TX

#25 Oct 6, 2010
Common Sense wrote:
<quoted text>
You're correct. The article fails to address the fact that just last week, Strickland signed an executive order ELIMINATING personal property taxes and real property taxes for companies wanting to build advanced and renewable energy projects facilities. Very convenient timing.
You better believe that will be exploited. They do not have to make a viable product ... jast make a half-assed effort. The same way corporations use cows on land they are holding for future expansion so they pay little or no tax as "farm land". Disneyworld does it.
Vern

Columbus, OH

#26 Oct 6, 2010
watcher wrote:
And with all this Stimulus money flowing we have no USA based companies that can make these solar panels. Why are we buying from Spain?
Makes me sick to read this crap presented as good news. What is wrong with these people?
The panels will be made in Toledo , Ohio by First Solar. The other components will also be made in Ohio. The spanish firms, which have been in the business for many years while we poison ourselves with coal, designed the project. US companies are just now learning what Europe has known for some time -- renewable energy reduces our reliance on the mideast and is clean. There's no such thing as clean coal.
Alda

Columbus, OH

#27 Oct 6, 2010
If this project is "true" then that would be wonderful, but I would like to know more about the "tax incentives", the federal loan and the likelihood it will ever be repaid. What makes me wonder is that Ohio is overall a rather cloudy state so any solar energy would seem to be diminished. Also, as we move into colder weather and shorter days there is less solar to gather--at least during the winter months. On the other hand, if this can be done despite these issues and done at a somewhat competitive economic rate, then that would be a worthwhile advance. Hope it isn't just pie in the sky but actually comes to fruition and is a success.
reality check

Columbus, OH

#28 Oct 6, 2010
watcher wrote:
And with all this Stimulus money flowing we have no USA based companies that can make these solar panels. Why are we buying from Spain?
Makes me sick to read this crap presented as good news. What is wrong with these people?
LOL

People like you complain about the "global warming conspiracy" to begin with, THEN you complain when companies in the US create products that combat it (like solar panels and hybrid batteries), and you ALSO complain when new jobs are created but we buy those products from other countries.

Get your story straight.

Thanks Ted --- more jobs. Keep up the good work.
DrC Ohio

Columbus, OH

#29 Oct 6, 2010
This is great. Maybe the right can come up with another montra since it seems like the Dems are creating sustainable jobs.
Tax Man

Columbus, OH

#30 Oct 6, 2010
KnotStandingStill wrote:
If you know of these companies, name them. Otherwise, shut up, and support these new jobs and new ideas.
Seriously? Why don't you put a sock in it. I'm so tired of the predictable responses from sheep-o-crats. Let's see, because you probably know nothing about the stock market, I'll make you do some research first.

You can look up domestic solar companies by their ticker symbols. HOKU for manufacturing the poly-silicon, ESLR, ENER, FSLR for making and installing the panels... to name a small few. This whole green energy thing is an absolute fraudulent joke being pulled on you yet again. It's time to wise up.

I simply can't wait to get these fools out of office.
Vern

Columbus, OH

#31 Oct 6, 2010
Terp wrote:
Spain got behind solar tech in a big way and it has apparently pretty much failed over there. The current technology of solar just won't produce meaningful amounts of the the energy we need.
Whaddya mean it pretty much failed over there!? You're just making stuff up. Germany leads the world in solar deployments, spain is close behind.
Texas Taeo

Austin, TX

#32 Oct 6, 2010
What none of you are saying is this should be a concentrating solar array
instead of photovoltaics.

HUGE DIFFERENCE.

PV solar is weak so don't support
Concentrating solar with molten salt storage is sweet.

LEARN the DIFFERENCE!!!!!!!!!!

Please inform the ignorant leaders the PV is a waste of money
in a northern cloudy state!!!!!!!!!!
Lancaster Redneck

Lancaster, OH

#33 Oct 6, 2010
Well, now we know why AEP dropped out of the Ohio Chamber of Commerce last week after they endorsed John Kasich - they got bought off by Ted Strickland and his cronies. This is nothing more than a political payoff by the Strickland Administration to Dave Wilhelm and AEP. I don't care what the private sector investment will be, we will all be paying higher energy bills so AEP can line its pockets and thump their chest about buying "green energy"
Citizen JAM

Galena, OH

#34 Oct 6, 2010
Is this the best investment of land use? I thought we were attempting tp preserve open land. Where does Ohio rate on available sun power? I have read that we are not very high on the scale. If this is so great why are not Ohio companies investing in the project? Are large mass solar installations cost effective and sustainable or is this just another political pipe dream that will cost the taxpayer in the future?
DrC Ohio

Columbus, OH

#35 Oct 6, 2010
Vern wrote:
<quoted text>
Whaddya mean it pretty much failed over there!? You're just making stuff up. Germany leads the world in solar deployments, spain is close behind.
Unfortunately, the US was the leader at one point, but our political leaders failed to invest in it, so the technology went over seas. Now we are playing catch up.
Nance

Columbus, OH

#36 Oct 6, 2010
Go to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_in_S...

It seems the Spanish are way ahead of the rest of the world and are doing quite nicely in the solar business.
Vern

Columbus, OH

#37 Oct 6, 2010
Texas Taeo wrote:
What none of you are saying is this should be a concentrating solar array
instead of photovoltaics.
HUGE DIFFERENCE.
PV solar is weak so don't support
Concentrating solar with molten salt storage is sweet.
LEARN the DIFFERENCE!!!!!!!!!!
Please inform the ignorant leaders the PV is a waste of money
in a northern cloudy state!!!!!!!!!!
It doesn't stop Germany! They are cloudier than Ohio and use PV. Athens Ohio has some nice productive PV projects at OU, City of Athens, businesses and residential.

Stay in Texas please.
Richards

Dayton, OH

#38 Oct 6, 2010
KnotStandingStill wrote:
If you know of these companies, name them. Otherwise, shut up, and support these new jobs and new ideas.
"The Spanish group Affirma and the South Korean company Top Tech have joined forces to take control of Isofotón, a Spanish consultancy firm that provides services to companies, business centers, law firms and consultants in the solar energy sector. It also manufactures and markets solar trackers, sells all major and peripheral solar energy products and works to expand solar farms."

http://www.spainbusiness.com/icex/cda/control...
End of Story

United States

#39 Oct 6, 2010
Citizen JAM wrote:
is this just another political pipe dream that will cost the taxpayer in the future?
Nailed it.
Richards

Dayton, OH

#40 Oct 6, 2010
Vern wrote:
<quoted text>
It doesn't stop Germany! They are cloudier than Ohio and use PV. Athens Ohio has some nice productive PV projects at OU, City of Athens, businesses and residential.
Stay in Texas please.
Samsung just invested in Windsor, Ontario - to the tune of 16,000 jobs and $6.6B. Too bad that couldn't have been Ohio!

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