What does the same-sex marriage ruling mean for Iowa?

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SIOUX CITY, Iowa - Camilla Taylor, Lambda Legal, said, "We won, and not only that -- it was unanimous," Friday, the Iowa Supreme Court issued a unanimous ruling on the same-sex marriage ban.

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Since: Aug 08

MARRIAGE EQUALITY:-)

#2 Apr 6, 2009
Audrey E wrote:
God made Adam and Eve Not Adam and Steve. It should be overruled!Its ungodly!!!!!!!!!!
Your point MAY BE WORTH SOMETHING IF THIS WAS A COUNTRY RULED BY GOD'S LAW, but this is the United States of America and we are governed by OUR GREAT CONSTITUTION.

Don't like it........maybe you should go live somewhere more in line with your views.

Until then.........please keep your religious beliefs to yourself.......My beliefs are different from yours and I believe GOD made STRAIGHTS, GAYS, LESBIANS, BI-SEXUALS AND TRANSGENDERED TO BE EXACTLY THE WAY THEY ARE.

Blessed Be
Terry e

Kellogg, IA

#3 Apr 8, 2009
I think the children are going to be confussed when they reach a certain age.
Terry e

Kellogg, IA

#4 Apr 8, 2009
I hope the gay community will not do alot of public display of kissing to turn the old folks totally against them!I wish a gay would explain to me how they are tell a child why both of their parents are the same sex after they find out how babies are made besides sperm banks.

Since: Mar 07

United States

#5 Apr 8, 2009
Terry e wrote:
I hope the gay community will not do alot of public display of kissing to turn the old folks totally against them!I wish a gay would explain to me how they are tell a child why both of their parents are the same sex after they find out how babies are made besides sperm banks.
We don't usually have to tell children that both of their parents are of the same gender. It's usually pretty obvious.

And we tell them just what straight parents tell them, if they've been adopted, or "created" through in invitro.

We tell them they we wanted children so much, that we searched the world over, to find that special mix of life and hopes and dreams, that is their soul. And when we found that spark, we nurtured it, and loved it, and cherished the child that brought such happiness into out lives.

We tell them that they didn't just happen. That they were wanted and loved from the moment they were ours.

We tell them we love them. We support their goals and dreams. We provide love and discipline, and comparrion and share laughter.

Just like any good parents.

Since: Mar 07

United States

#6 Apr 8, 2009
Terry e wrote:
I think the children are going to be confussed when they reach a certain age.
What is so confusing about loving parents?

Since: Apr 09

United States

#7 Apr 14, 2009
Quest wrote:
<quoted text>
We don't usually have to tell children that both of their parents are of the same gender. It's usually pretty obvious.
And we tell them just what straight parents tell them, if they've been adopted, or "created" through in invitro.
We tell them they we wanted children so much, that we searched the world over, to find that special mix of life and hopes and dreams, that is their soul. And when we found that spark, we nurtured it, and loved it, and cherished the child that brought such happiness into out lives.
We tell them that they didn't just happen. That they were wanted and loved from the moment they were ours.
We tell them we love them. We support their goals and dreams. We provide love and discipline, and comparison and share laughter.
Just like any good parents.
I think every human is destined for love...
I think everyone is made differently.
I think the word GAY or LESBIAN is absurd.
I think that 2 people who love each other no matter what color or gender they are to each other: I think if they can project love & teach children to have love, respect,reach for their dreams, enjoy the life, laugh & appreciate their surroundings, and have an open mind, I feel they should not be judged.
I feel everyone deserves happiness in life it is so very short lived.. it needs enjoyment..

I was married to a man.. I have no desire for a female to female relationship, but yet I remain alone in life because I now despise men because I have been with many who are drunks, or abusive, or bad mouthed to women, or children & I just feel that if you find SOMEONE who makes you feel loved for real makes you feel wanted for whatever reason...and can make America proud & make children feel loved & not deprived or battered (I am a battered person)...my life is nothing anymore.. but I feel that GAYS & Lesbians are put down like they have the plague.. which is wrong. They are God's children too.. they deserve happiness & fulfillment.
My uncle was gay, he is dead now. He was ridiculed by those who wanted to see him suffer but he was loved by those who wanted to see him live a happy life.

It is like poverty & wealthy..
It is like celebrities and common folk..
It is like wanted pets and unwanted pets...

gays & lesbians get treated in that same manner.

It is harsh. I hate it.
el Grande Pollo

Hawarden, IA

#10 Apr 18, 2009
Newkid, I'm confused by your comment...

First you rant about sexual lifestyle choices. However, straight people choose to abstain from sex be monogamous or be whores. Being straight is a choice as well. It is called free will and if you read your Bible free will is something given to mankind by God.

Judging by the beginning of your post I expected an across the board conservative view. However, I see that you think the wealth of the gay community should be redistributed.
<quote> Why don't they give some of their $$$ millions of dollars by helping the poor? Why don't they help homeowners pay off their mortgages? Why don't they help create more jobs? Why don't they donate millions to childrens hospitals? Why don't gays come out to donate more of their money to inner citys? </quote>

So are you promoting socialism here? One of the many items on the left wing to do list?

Just so I understand your position... Should straight wealthy people have their money redistributed as you see fit as well?
Resist Ignorance

Knoxville, TN

#11 Apr 18, 2009
newkid777 wrote:
...being gay is fully 100% free CHOICE that they are making for themselves....They are NOT born gay or lesbians. They are choosing to live a UNnatural sexual lifestyle.
Being gay is a choice? Not according to:

The American Psychological Association,the American Psychiatric Association, American Academy of Pediatrics, American Medical Association, American Counseling Association, American Association of School Administrators, American Federation of Teachers, American School Health Association, National Association of School Psychologists, National Association of Social Workers, National Education Association and the World Health Organization.
newkid777 wrote:
They are crying to the world for more special rights and treatments for their act of choice.
They are not asking for SPECIAL rights, they are asking for EQUAL rights!
newkid777 wrote:
They are already have millions of dollars in their bank accounts! Gays drive the most expensive cars. They are actors, singes[sic], movie stars and they want more special treatments! Give us a break! We[sic] had enough of their rich spoiled life.
Jealous much?
newkid777 wrote:
Why don't they give some of their $$$ millions of dollars by helping the poor?
They do!
newkid777 wrote:
Why don't they help homeowners pay off their mortgages? Why don't they help create more jobs? Why don't they donate millions to childrens[sic] hospitals? Why don't gays come out to donate more of their money to inner citys[sic]?
What, you want a handout from the "rich" gay community while simultaneously throwing them under the bus and treating them like second class citizens and stripping them of their rights? Gays do contribute to charities and the "toys" they buy create jobs.
newkid777 wrote:
We want truth!
As Jack Nicholson said in the movie "A Few Good Men", "You want the truth? You can't handle the truth!" The truth is that there is absolutely NO difference between a gay person and a straight person other than whom they are biologically attracted to as well as having to endure the hatred and unjust discrimination that is thrust upon then by people like you!
newkid777 wrote:
It is time for America to wakes[sic] up![sic] & Defends[sic] her little childrens[sic]!
Gay people have children too! What about them? Prop 8 and laws like it deprive them of the same benefits that you take for granted. You fight so hard, not just against same-sex marriage, but also against non-discrimination in housing and employment. Will you not be satisfied until every LGBT family is out on the street, homeless and unemployed?

Just for the record: I am a straight, white, fifty-four year old male living in Alabama! Gays aren't hurting you or your family, why do you want to hurt them and theirs? You need to examine you life and your heart!
el Grande Pollo

Hawarden, IA

#12 Apr 19, 2009
Isn't Alabama the Bible Belt "Buckle"? anyway...

It is obvious that newkid is one of those guys that is so insecure about their own sexuality that they have to chastise others for theirs.

However, while the APA, AMA, ACA, NASW and so on believe that homosexuality is biological in its roots I have met plenty of people in the gay community that made a choice of said lifestyle.

Some were 'gay by injection'(being molested or raped) or by a traumatic domestic event in their lives that would cause someone to swear off the opposite gender.

Just for curiosity (yes pun intended) I would like an explanation for bi-sexuals. Are they just sitting on the fence, or just really horny? Maybe they are just saying bi (bye) to heterosexuality?

Personally I don't care who someone else screws (as long as it is a consenting adult and another consenting adult or a group of consenting adults).

I think I just get annoyed when these holier than thou types chant about marriage sanctity. Not too many generations ago most marriages were arranged to keep the haves away from the have nots (and in some parts to keep it in the family).

I guess since forced marriage is gone in most parts of the world the holier than thou types have to force something on some group. Maybe they are just afraid of the statistics. Wouldn't it be funny if gay marriages lasted longer, or if the teen pregnancy or suicide rate was lower with same gender parents?

Guess we will have to wait and see.....
David Hineline

Joplin, MO

#13 Apr 26, 2009
I think the Gay Marriage in Iowa might be incentive for some Gays to move out of Nebraka making it an even better place to live.

Since: Mar 07

United States

#14 Apr 27, 2009
David Hineline wrote:
I think the Gay Marriage in Iowa might be incentive for some Gays to move out of Nebraka making it an even better place to live.
Then be prepared for some of your friends, your coworkers you depend on, and your own family to move as well.

Be careful who you hate, it may be someone you love.
Mandi

South Sioux City, NE

#15 Apr 27, 2009
This is wrong. A girl I know we perfectly straight before and now is lesbo. I don't think that being gay is natural at all. Some one or something must put those thoughts into some one's mind. If our country still had morals this wouldn't be a problem.

Since: Jan 07

Ann Arbor, MI

#16 Apr 27, 2009
newkid777 wrote:
Now, there are only few folks who want to overturn the legal passaged of proposition 8 by an illegal act of force!
That's a lie. The lawsuit challenging Prop 8 is not "illegal", nor is it an "act of force".
newkid777 wrote:
Proposition was legally passed by the will of the people, for the people, & by the people! Why don't they also just overturn OBAMA'S legal election that was won by the will of the people?
Huge non-sequitur. These things are completely unrelated. Also begging the question - the legality of Prop 8 is what the lawsuit challenged.
newkid777 wrote:
In addition, being gay is fully 100% free CHOICE that they are making for themselves.
How can you claim to know such a thing? Are you able to read minds? Since all the reputable major mental health organizations say otherwise, and they're infinitely more qualified to make such an assessment than you would appear to be, I think we should believe them.
newkid777 wrote:
They are already have millions of dollars in their bank accounts!
Laughable. I make under $50K per year, so I can assure you that I don't have "millions of dollars".
newkid777 wrote:
Gays drive the most expensive cars.
When did a Pontiac Vibe become one of "the most expensive cars"?
newkid777 wrote:
They are actors, singes, movie stars and they want more special treatments![QUOTE]
No, I'm just an administrative assistant (which really doesn't even begin to describe the scope of my job).

[QUOTE who="newkid777"]We had enough of their rich spoiled life.
Sounds more like your beef is with rich people, not the average gay man or lesbian.
newkid777 wrote:
Why don't they give some of their $$$ millions of dollars by helping the poor?
Why do you just assume that we don't do charity work and donate our money to causes fighting poverty - even those of us who don't have millions of dollars?
newkid777 wrote:
Why don't they help homeowners pay off their mortgages?
Maybe because our money is tied up with being responsible by paying our own?
newkid777 wrote:
Why don't they help create more jobs? Why don't they donate millions to childrens hospitals? Why don't gays come out to donate more of their money to inner citys?
Some of us do. Are we supposed to brag about it?
newkid777 wrote:
Instead, they keep buying more toys, more gold, more mansions & more mercedes while we americans are suffering in these hard economic times!
1) I'm an American, too. 2) What makes you that only straight people are suffering from the economic crisis?
newkid777 wrote:
blah blah, rant rant, hatermonger hatemonger.
You seem to have a lot of misplaced anger. Maybe you should look at your own situation and take responsibility for it before you start blaming other people who have nothing to do it.

Since: Jan 07

Ann Arbor, MI

#17 Apr 27, 2009
Mandi wrote:
Some one or something must put those thoughts into some one's mind.
'Cuz we all know that gay people have special powers of mind control. Can you feel me controlling your mind right now? No, I'm not telling you to go be gay - guess again.
Mandi wrote:
If our country still had morals this wouldn't be a problem.
If people had the moral fiber to mind their own business, this wouldn't be an issue.

Since: Jan 07

Ann Arbor, MI

#21 Apr 27, 2009
newkid777 wrote:
Thanks for taking the time to disect my freedom of speech comments.
The freedom to speak doesn't include a freedom to be protected from other people exercising that same right in offering criticism of your comments/arguments.
newkid777 wrote:
First of all, I have yet to see a gay "MAN" give birth to another gay man.
Since no one here as argued anything to the contrary, this is nothing more than a feeble attempt at making a strawman argument, and as such, requires no further comment.
newkid777 wrote:
If you can prove me wrong than I'll undestand your point of view.
Several people have already offered a refutation of your comments. You can either address those counterarguments, are be observed for the fool you seem intent on making of yourself.
newkid777 wrote:
Until then Let Us Californians Be CALIFORNIANS!
Californians do not speak with a unified voice on this issue, as evidenced by the close margin of the last vote. So it's rather ridiculous for you to post here as if you were speaking for all of California.
Someone in Reno

Reno, NV

#23 Apr 27, 2009
Kids are already confused. It is not about who is of what sex or who and who love each other. What is confusing is to see people preach and speak of God's love and then place hateful bumper acceptance and tolerance of others. Last week I saw several teenagers screaming and making fun of a young man who was walking down the street. He was obviously physically and mentally handicapped. I could see the look on his face and it broke my heart. Those kids are confused and hateful. It had nothing to do with sexuality. Please teach your kids to respect and provide dignity to others.
Angie

Since: Jan 07

Plymouth, MI

#24 Apr 27, 2009
newkid777 wrote:
However, You have your PEREZ HILTON Ranting like big EDIOT!
So you are in the habit then of judging one person by the actions of another? Or of judging a whole group of people by the actions of one member?

The latter is illogical. It's a common mistake among those who exhibit such prejudice. What is true of a group universally is true of every particular individual within that group. <- Logical. But when you try to go the other direction, claiming that what is true of one particular member must be universally true of all who have membership in the group <- Illogical. This is because membership in one group is not mutually exclusive of membership in another, and groups can overlap. If the thing examined is not the very trait that identifies the person as a member of a group, then you've overreached, well beyond the scope of what can reasonably be known or inferred. For example:

Dogs have a set of traits that identify them as dogs, and all dogs share those traits. But if you see a dog that has white fur, and try to "reason" that this means all dogs have white fur, that would be trying to extend what is true of the particular individual illogically to all members of the set known as dogs. We could say there is a subset of dogs that have white fur, would be they all be identical? No, some may be of different breeds, with a subset of traits shared by that breed, but those traits may not be shared by all dogs having white fur, nor by all dog breeds more generally.
newkid777 wrote:
Yet, you get ANGRY at the facts....
No, I'm simply refusing to let your misrepresentation of the facts go unchallenged.
newkid777 wrote:
You "Choooooooooooooooooose " to be gay!
I suppose that you think you "chose" to be straight, then? When did you make that choice? Were you equally attracted to both males and females, and thus able to choose one or the other?
newkid777 wrote:
Since I haven't seen a "PREGNANT" gay man then STOP Your Deception!
What deception? I never said anything about men, gay or straight, becoming pregnant. The only deception being perpetrated here is coming directly from you in your attempt to distract and avoid having to address the real points raised in challenge to your ill-conceived opinions.
Bull Rider

Aurora, IL

#26 Apr 29, 2009
I really don`t care what they do. the law is the la and if it decided they can marry let them go for it. however I am not Gay and do not want any part of that life-style. I don`t want it jammed in my face now or ever.Marry all they want to just don`t bother me. Put a hand on me I will,I file assualt charges. I have rights too. cause me trouble at work I sue the company, mess with me in the store ,I sue the store. I have rights and so do other people. Marry all they want I could care less it doesn`t bother me, mess with me that is anothere story.

Since: Jan 07

Plymouth, MI

#27 Apr 29, 2009
Bull Rider wrote:
I really don`t care what they do. the law is the la and if it decided they can marry let them go for it. however I am not Gay and do not want any part of that life-style. I don`t want it jammed in my face now or ever.Marry all they want to just don`t bother me. Put a hand on me I will,I file assualt charges. I have rights too. cause me trouble at work I sue the company, mess with me in the store ,I sue the store. I have rights and so do other people. Marry all they want I could care less it doesn`t bother me, mess with me that is anothere story.
Clearly you do have a problem, if you're this paranoid, thinking that gay people are out to get you.

Since: Mar 07

United States

#28 Apr 30, 2009
Mandi wrote:
This is wrong. A girl I know we perfectly straight before and now is lesbo. I don't think that being gay is natural at all. Some one or something must put those thoughts into some one's mind. If our country still had morals this wouldn't be a problem.
So, how did you know she's perfectly straight? Did you hook her up to a few well placed electrodes upon meeting her? And then test her responses later to prove she "changed"?

Of couse not. So your statement is silly.

Didn't it occur to you that she might have been gay all along, and just pretending to be straight, trying to fit in with people like you?

Or perhaps she is bi-sexual, and has the ability to be attracted to BOTH genders.

Please explain, in detail, how you Determined that she actually changed her innate sexual orientation.

And why do you think that monogamy and marriage are immoral?

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