Farmers wait to see what freeze inflicted

Dean Fallis has tucked straw around rows of cabbage at the nursery he runs, hoping it insulates the young plants from a cold snap that's threatening crops across Indiana. Full Story
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Voice of reason

United States

#1 Apr 9, 2007
First you must understand that Farming is really just organized Welfare. These farmers are always downplaying thier potential harvest to maximize thier welfare payouts. In the real business world we use pracitices like insuranae to indemnify against perils of a business loss. Farmers on Welfare just rely on tax payers to bail them out. This will never stop because farmers are such a large voting base and are organized enough to ensure that they will continue the extortion.
Roger

Indianapolis, IN

#3 Apr 9, 2007
West Point is in not in White County
irritated at ignorance

Eden Prairie, MN

#4 Apr 9, 2007
A few points...
1. Less than 2% of the population is involved in agriculture. Hardly the "large voting base" you speak of.

2. Farming is the furthest thing from "organized welfare." In this "real business" world producers are subject to fluctuating markets that they sell their commodities in, all the while being subject to natural perils at the hand of Mother Nature.
lifelong bears-cubs fan

Indianapolis, IN

#5 Apr 9, 2007
Voice of reason wrote:
First you must understand that Farming is really just organized Welfare. These farmers are always downplaying thier potential harvest to maximize thier welfare payouts. In the real business world we use pracitices like insuranae to indemnify against perils of a business loss. Farmers on Welfare just rely on tax payers to bail them out. This will never stop because farmers are such a large voting base and are organized enough to ensure that they will continue the extortion.
I assume you are referring to farmers who take advantage of crop subsidies to stay in business??? The majority of farmers do not use government assistance when they experience a business loss. In fact, farmers have crop insurance available to them and many do use it. Others simply absorb the loss. You probably should do some actual research into agribusiness before you make flippant statements.
sam

Fishers, IN

#6 Apr 9, 2007
Voice of reason wrote:
First you must understand that Farming is really just organized Welfare. These farmers are always downplaying thier potential harvest to maximize thier welfare payouts. In the real business world we use pracitices like insuranae to indemnify against perils of a business loss. Farmers on Welfare just rely on tax payers to bail them out. This will never stop because farmers are such a large voting base and are organized enough to ensure that they will continue the extortion.
You are an idiot. What would the world do without farmers. They are the suppliers of our food. They are some of the hardest working people in the US. What other occupation relies soley on the weather for their income? Quit whining about something you know nothing about. Have you ever gotten your hands dirty? Probably not.
crazyoldman

Partlow, VA

#7 Apr 9, 2007
The farm programs are based on comodities like corn and soybeans. There is no farm program for vegetables such as cabbage, and with less than 2% of the entire population they wouldn't make up near the voting block that IDIOTS like "voice of unreason"
pcnot

Mount Gilead, OH

#8 Apr 9, 2007
BREAKING NEWS!

Global warming freezes crops! Scientists back to the computer models to understand what happened.
naptown drew

Carmel, IN

#9 Apr 9, 2007
I hope my weed crop is still okay...

Since: Feb 07

Indianapolis, IN

#10 Apr 9, 2007
Voice of reason wrote:
First you must understand that Farming is really just organized Welfare. These farmers are always downplaying thier potential harvest to maximize thier welfare payouts. In the real business world we use pracitices like insuranae to indemnify against perils of a business loss. Farmers on Welfare just rely on tax payers to bail them out. This will never stop because farmers are such a large voting base and are organized enough to ensure that they will continue the extortion.
WOW your stupid!
tarzan

Indianapolis, IN

#11 Apr 9, 2007
Voice of reason wrote:
First you must understand that Farming is really just organized Welfare. These farmers are always downplaying thier potential harvest to maximize thier welfare payouts. In the real business world we use pracitices like insuranae to indemnify against perils of a business loss. Farmers on Welfare just rely on tax payers to bail them out. This will never stop because farmers are such a large voting base and are organized enough to ensure that they will continue the extortion.
Hey meathead, farmers make more money selling crops than the government’s handouts. Its in the farmers best interest to protect their crops than let them be destroyed. You my friend are an IDIOT! Go back to school and get some more education.
bartman

Indianapolis, IN

#12 Apr 9, 2007
Voice of reason wrote:
First you must understand that Farming is really just organized Welfare. These farmers are always downplaying thier potential harvest to maximize thier welfare payouts. In the real business world we use pracitices like insuranae to indemnify against perils of a business loss. Farmers on Welfare just rely on tax payers to bail them out. This will never stop because farmers are such a large voting base and are organized enough to ensure that they will continue the extortion.
I expect this from someone from Carmel, they just seem to think food magically appears on the shelves as if it's constructed in some laboratory like their wives faces are. I hardly call getting up early, working your ass of all day and into the night, and not exactly getting rich off it as a trait which qualifies someone as a welfare recipient. You should have to take an IQ test before you're allowed to post.
pcnot

Mount Gilead, OH

#13 Apr 9, 2007
The Star deleted my prior sarcastic comment about global warming being the cause of this freeze. Wonder why?
lastrep

Indianapolis, IN

#15 Apr 9, 2007
Voice of reason wrote:
First you must understand that Farming is really just organized Welfare. These farmers are always downplaying thier potential harvest to maximize thier welfare payouts. In the real business world we use pracitices like insuranae to indemnify against perils of a business loss. Farmers on Welfare just rely on tax payers to bail them out. This will never stop because farmers are such a large voting base and are organized enough to ensure that they will continue the extortion.
The "real" business world you are so proud of uses tax abatements, grants for employee training, enterprise zones, and soon subsidies for employee health insurance. Tell me again how it's the "farmer" that gets welfare. Let me know when your next garage sale is, Reason.

Since: Feb 07

San Francisco, CA

#16 Apr 9, 2007
Does the "Star" really delete dumb and sarcastic remarks? There are plenty of "bad remarks" that are published. Why wouldn't the "Star" delete more of them if this is the case?
Richard M Williams

Saint Petersburg, FL

#17 Apr 9, 2007
pcnot wrote:
The Star deleted my prior sarcastic comment about global warming being the cause of this freeze. Wonder why?
Because global warming only exists in the twisted minds of the false prophets and paeudo-scientists and the Algores who want a carbon tax to punish Americans for being successful.
Richard M Williams

Saint Petersburg, FL

#18 Apr 9, 2007
Voice of reason wrote:
First you must understand that Farming is really just organized Welfare. These farmers are always downplaying thier potential harvest to maximize thier welfare payouts. In the real business world we use pracitices like insuranae to indemnify against perils of a business loss. Farmers on Welfare just rely on tax payers to bail them out. This will never stop because farmers are such a large voting base and are organized enough to ensure that they will continue the extortion.
You must be a Harvard Business School Graduate considering that their average I.Q. is that of what comes out of the back of a manure spreader (a farm implement used to spread animal wastes on farmland to increase productivity).
sara

Fishers, IN

#19 Apr 9, 2007
Voice of reason wrote:
First you must understand that Farming is really just organized Welfare. These farmers are always downplaying thier potential harvest to maximize thier welfare payouts. In the real business world we use pracitices like insuranae to indemnify against perils of a business loss. Farmers on Welfare just rely on tax payers to bail them out. This will never stop because farmers are such a large voting base and are organized enough to ensure that they will continue the extortion.
1.Learn how to spell. 2.You really have no clue what a farmer does do you? Most farmers do carry insurance and most would rather have a great year (yields) than to use any govt. subsidies. They are there to keep the farmers alive. What would you do without farmers? What do you eat? Do you eat anything that contains corn, soy, wheat? Do you use dairy products? Do your kids eat cereal? What about beef, pork, chicken? Hmmm, ever wonder where it comes from?
global fog

United States

#20 Apr 9, 2007
I am not a farmer. I have planted all sorts of veggies in the garden, including potatoes.
I have known for over 40 years that I can expect a killer frost in northern Indiana through mid May. And near frost with strong winds will have the same effect.
So, WHAT JERK PUTS SEED POTATOES IN THE GROUND IN MARCH!!!???? ANYWHERE IN INDIANA!!!???? Then is photographed and quoted in da Star complaining about it??!!!???!!
I'll bet this jerk even drops a hook with a worm in a bucket and complains about the bad fishin'.
rkm

Haubstadt, IN

#21 Apr 9, 2007
Surely this is a joke......or bait to get some threads going....please tell me you are not this stupid.....
Voice of reason wrote:
First you must understand that Farming is really just organized Welfare. These farmers are always downplaying thier potential harvest to maximize thier welfare payouts. In the real business world we use pracitices like insuranae to indemnify against perils of a business loss. Farmers on Welfare just rely on tax payers to bail them out. This will never stop because farmers are such a large voting base and are organized enough to ensure that they will continue the extortion.
Skeptical

Indianapolis, IN

#22 Apr 9, 2007
I, as a farmer of produce vegtables, tomatoes, peppers, sweet corn, green beans, etc. have never gotten a cent off the government to assist me in my business. Thank God I have other jobs to fall back on to carry me through. I can tell you right now, the prices of what I charge for starter plants and sets has just gone up, because the kerosene I am having to burn at night to keep them from freezing is running at $3.00+ per gallon. The government sure is happy to get my tax dollar off any and all of my earning, though. But please, do not place me in the same category as those mono-culture corporate farmers that ride around all day in huge climate-controlled machines and then cry and whine about how tough it is to be a farmer. Like CrazyOldMan.

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