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What happens when a Title 1 school does not make the Average Ye...

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opinion8d

Norfolk, VA

#1 Nov 8, 2007
Why are we (taxpayers) paying large salaries to the school administrator and teachers to get such poor results? Maybe they should change the classes to something the teachers can teach...such as coloring and cutting shapes.....sorry...that is covered in preK. Next suggestion.
dedicatedteacher

King George, VA

#2 Jan 5, 2008
I am truly disgusted at your rediculous view of the educators in this town. I have been a teacher for seven years and am still struggling to make ends meet each month financially. We spend countless hours after school, on weekends and vacations without extra pay, as well as a lot of our own money to try to help our students achieve. Many of us have second and third jobs to make enough money to support our families. Therefore, your idea that we are overpaid is ignorant. As for the lack of achievement of our students... a child's first school is the home, and the person or people raising that child are responsible for the beginning stages of education. Sure it is easy to blame the teachers and administrators for a child's lack of progress. It is much harder to look at ones self and ask what am I doing wrong as a parent that is not supporting my child's education? Can you answer that question? Finally, as for the teacher's intellectual abilities, our faculty and staff have dedicted their lives to becoming the highest quality educators. I myself have two bachelors degrees as well as a masters degree. I have several hundred hours of professional development each year and am recognized nationally for my avchievements in the classroom. Therefore, I feel it is quite unintelligent of YOU to think that all the teachers know how to do is cut and paste. If that is truly your opinion, you must not have been raised in the Colonial Beach educational system. Otherwise, you would know better!
opinion8d wrote:
Why are we (taxpayers) paying large salaries to the school administrator and teachers to get such poor results? Maybe they should change the classes to something the teachers can teach...such as coloring and cutting shapes.....sorry...that is covered in preK. Next suggestion.
Human Resource to Blame

AOL

#3 Jan 5, 2008
The HR and Principals are unqualified in the Penninsula Schools. They spend their time having meetings, taking trips, draining the budgets. They hire their friends. Most, imo, are not qualified. Some have less degrees than K-Teachers. They harass teachers with meeting after meeting. They rotate from school to school. The School Board is as awful. Often you will see administrators with the same last name in different schools, especially in elementary. The are the good ole hags network.
dedicatedteacher

King George, VA

#4 Jan 5, 2008
It starts with the home first. So many parents put the blame on the school system first, not the lack of parenting. The teachers that give their time actualy care a great deal. They get paid a minimun of what their degrees cause for. There are so many professions that get paid for having a degree that get paid a lot more for doing less but teaching isn,t one of them.
Edward

King George, VA

#5 Jan 8, 2008
Human Resource to Blame wrote:
The HR and Principals are unqualified in the Penninsula Schools. They spend their time having meetings, taking trips, draining the budgets. They hire their friends. Most, imo, are not qualified. Some have less degrees than K-Teachers. They harass teachers with meeting after meeting. They rotate from school to school. The School Board is as awful. Often you will see administrators with the same last name in different schools, especially in elementary. The are the good ole hags network.
I agree with you completely. Colonial Beach has very qualified and dedicated teachers. It is Dr. Howard and the School Board that have to go. She has way too much power and she spends our tax dollars at will.
Women Only Schools

AOL

#6 Jan 8, 2008
Look people, I realize there are not as many men as women in the college teacher educ. programs. But come on, 1-5% percent males? Administrators mostly women? Teachers? Asst Teachers? Substitutes? Now it is the janitors.
There are many males changing careers to teaching. Some have high advanced degrees in other areas and now have to take, classroom management. When they are interviewed at these job fairs or on Warwick Blvs-NNPS, they may as well go across the street to Subway for a job. Women don't want men in the PSs.
what schools

Gloucester, VA

#8 Jan 11, 2008
Dedicated teacherÂ…please see data on Colonial Beach Standards of learning
Elementary School - https://p1pe.doe.virginia.gov/reportcard/repo...

You will see that the elementary school was Accredited BUT WITH WARNING. The Elementary school did not make adequate yearly progress in English. If you look back 2 years ago in the same document, you will see that the school use to be Fully accredited with no warnings and did make Adequate yearly progress.

High School - https://p1pe.doe.virginia.gov/reportcard/repo...

You will see that the High School was Fully credited BUT did not make adequate yearly progress in Math. The prior 2 years the school was fully accredited and made adequate yearly progress.

It appears that the school is heading in the wrong direction. I have provided the links to the facts from the Virginia Department of Education. With you having the correct information, I am sure, you can agree that the school testing data shows you that the school is being much less than honest and are feeding us incomplete information by saying they are fully accredited . I appreciate teachers but do not appreciate the accreditation status. Are you going to be part of the change? Alice Howard, the school board and you the faculty can make a better effort in turning the numbers around. I have done my research so I consider myself justified to critique this below average school system. Any questions?
hadit

United States

#9 Jan 11, 2008
It's time to let the county take over control of the school system. How much longer are we going to put up with this.
bobby

Fredericksburg, VA

#10 Jan 16, 2008
This is ridiculous!! I wish one person, just one person who is either a local politician or just against the school, would quit masking their hatred and just say that we should get rid of the school! I am so sick of these folks who constantly say, "I support the school, but...." No more money, they stir up crap and then ask school supporters for votes! Somebody have some guts!! I appreciated the early 1990's candidates and council who absolutely hated the school and pushed for consolidation... at least they had the guts!! Dr. Howard has done a great job, by the way it was under her watch that we became accredited. And the School Board members are great! They do the best with what they are up against... and that is "anti-school" politicians who don't have the guts to say so!!!!! It's those folks on Council who truly need to go!!! Again, I'm Bobby Duke, Jr., former Treasur and CB alumnus, and I'm not afraid to say so! Long live CB schools!!!!!
bobby

Fredericksburg, VA

#11 Jan 16, 2008
.. like hadit just did. thanks "hadit" at least you have some balls!
cbfromhere

United States

#12 Jan 17, 2008
Bobby you have to be aware more than anyone it is not just the politicans who have issue with the school. However it always seems that if you say we want you to be responsibile, accountable, dedicated it becomes a personal issue and in most cases it just how you do business. I also think the school does a extremely good job with what they have to work with, that's not a issue. I have grandchildren in the school and think the teachers and staff do a wonderful job however I don't do it blindly and beleive there are areas that need improvement but that could be said about any business. Now while you say some lose creditability because not using name, I would have to say it's the contents of what you say. Some lose creditability because they did use their name.
bobby

Norfolk, VA

#13 Jan 19, 2008
cbfromhere, now that you've stated your opinion, enlighten me on what bothers you about the school. it seems to me that the school produces kids that go on to college, jobs, or the military. how is that different than any other school? is it simply the taxes? that seems to be an issue with some, however nobody has ever proved that consolidation would be less expensive to taxpayers. just my humble opinion. and i don't think it's fair to say that I "lose" credibility by stating facts.
Fred Rummage

AOL

#14 Jan 21, 2008
Public Education has had my full support all my life. I am a product of that system. My support for the local schools has not diminished since I was elected to the Town Council. The Board of Education does not have fiscal autonomy, therefor it must be held accountable for all overdrafts.
Research has shown that the School Board(really the office of the superintendent) has overdrawn its account with the Town during school years 2003-06 to the tune of $500,000. This casts no reflection on the principals, teachers or students. What I speak about is the echelon above the school buildings. It is the hierarchy-the office of the superintendent-approved by the Board of Education.
The teachers, Counselors, Principals and Support Staff deserve every dollar they receive. The question is, with such shoddy bookkeeping, do they receive their fair share? We do not have the answer but we are about to find out. Have you ever overdrawn your bank account for four years cummulatively? What would have happened if you did? You certainly know that answer. So does the superintendent. The tax payers want and deserve answers, including the school building employees. We expect appropriate answers for the past, so the past does not become proloque. During the spring campaign I expect this to be adequately addressed.

Frederick C. Rummage, CB Council Member
PS Bobby! I agree, long live the schools of Colonial Beach
cbfromhere

United States

#15 Jan 21, 2008
I have always been a supporter of Colonial Beach School for over at least 35 of the 40 years I lived here. From helping in PTA activities, fund drives to build the High School based on what a small close nit school can provide for the community. Now we say we are average with other schools and I say we should be above the norm. While most of what I hear from the School Board is more money will cure all. Well seems they spent more money and still didn't acheive the objective. Their arguement would have been a lot better if they said "see what we improved". Don't think we are asking anymore of the adults more than they ask of our children. Be honest, be accountable. As far as the consolidation the tax payeer pays no matter who administers. More funding should be requested on achievement of goals and rewarded if met and appropriate action if not. I don't ask anymore from the School Board than I would of approving a loan to a business. Product + Goals + Results = Success.
CB BOY 1

United States

#16 Jan 21, 2008
Mr. Rummage, who monitored the schools spending during this time? Where was the auditor? Is council not suppose to monitor all Town money as the people's representative? Funny to see you on here an election must be getting ready to occure. Can you address some of the other complaints and problems on here? Can you clear up the Town Managers 5% increase, and not the one in July every Town employee got? The sewer agreement with the county that the money for the upgrades fell short? The roads at Riversidemeadows? The poor maintenance to the sewer plant that got DEQ involved(not the up comming requirement- the ones we need to meet that are already on the books)? Also in closing do not all school checks bear three signatures? That would be Scool Board Chairman, School Finance officer, and yes the Town CFO, and it took three years to find this out.
hadit

Thaxton, VA

#17 Jan 23, 2008
Bobby, here's what bothers me about the school and the whole town for that matter. it's the voters. The majority has become products of their own environment. They don't have the forethought to think outside the box. They don't understand that at this point in time you can't adequately run a small town and provide big town services (schools,public works,and police)with revenues derived from a residential tax base. They seat a concil and school board whose only accomplishment has been an endless stream of controversy created by their constant mistakes and bad judgments. Yet, at the expense of their children's education they demand to retain control of a school board that has not only failed their children but the citizens as well. How many times have you heard "the schools are doing a good job considering what they have to work with"? What does that tell you? Rummage states the school system has overdrawn their budget upwards of $500,000. Why do teachers have to use their own money to buy paper and other needed supplies for their classrooms? Let's hire architect and build an addition on the school. After all it's just a game of monopoly. There's just no end to this carnage. Wake up people. It's time to take back your town and put an end to fiscal irresponsibilty. Preserve Drifter Pride. Disband the school board, fire the current administration and bring Westmoreland County on board with their assets and admiistrative assistance.
bobby

Fredericksburg, VA

#18 Jan 30, 2008
Dear hadit,
I have read your comments and allow me to make a few counterpoints.(I love debate and appreciate that your tone is professional and not rabid. So I say thank you!)
First, you speak of local control that "has failed" our children. I'm not sure what you mean. As I pointed out, just as many of our students go on to college, vocational education, jobs of the military. Grades are up, SOL's are up, and a few years back we became accredited by SACS for the first time..ever! Your second arguement about money is also a mystery. Schools cost money, period, whether you live in Colonial Beach or Fairfax. You want to hire and archtict to build another school, but wouldn't that defeat your arguement about money??? Last, if you consolidate with Westmoreland County, there would be no more Colonial Beach schools. That is a fact. How can one of the poorest counties in the Northern Neck, and in the Commonwealth afford two high schools??? King George, Lancaster, Richmond, and Northumberland don't have two. That would in fact cost taxpayers MORE.. as you would need more staff, buses, etc.
As far as your first sentence, it offends me a little. I was born and raised here. I went to college, my friends went to college, got good educations, or great jobs. Colonial Beach schools have turned out college grads, military heroes, a Hollywood movie producer and director, lawyers, judges and doctors, as well as hardworking folks of all types. As a matter of fact, there is only 1, thats right, only 1 elected official in this entire town who went to CB schools. Maybe you have it backwards... maybe more alumni need to get involved and run for public office.
CBcomeback

Norfolk, VA

#19 Jan 30, 2008
The schools at Colonial Beach are far better than Westmoreland. We have a lot of county tutition paid students. How many tutition paid studends from the Beach go to the County??
Why cant we find out who is responsible for reporting to Dr. Howard or the School Board that they are going over budget. The bill from the Architect needs to be paid. When we applied for the low interest loan the town council approved it. We had to submit plans in order to get on the list. The Town Council then decided to not go along with the loan. The architect did his job, now pay him.
We have no money for necessary things on the Beach. We are in total disrepair. But we have money for two huge playgrounds, and now a skate park. I hope the town council can keep its head over this. The "We have nothing to do" kids need to use some imagianation along with their parents and stop expecting everthing to be given to them.
Play volly ball on the beach, put up a basket ball hoop in someones yard, join the Volunteer Fire Dept. Join the Rescue Squad. Join the teams at school. Basket ball, football, cheerleading.
Parents take responsibility for your own kids entertainment. Dont ask for my tax money, or my town property.
Bobby, I hope you run for town council. You have my vote.
Hadit

Thaxton, VA

#20 Feb 1, 2008
Bobby, I agree with you. The school system has graduated many students who have gone on to become productive citizens. The proplem is they are HISTORY. Their success in life has no bearing on the quality of education produced by the schools at this point in time. I disagree, grades are not up, SOL'S are not up and the accreditation you speak of is clouded. Click up a few post and see the info that What Schools has posted. The elementary school has not met SOL'S numbers for the last two years. Last week they got a mandate from the state to "fish or cut bait". Read it in the current addition of the Journal Press. It is indeed a pathetic and embarrassing situation for the whole town. I agree schools cost money. The problem here is with the administrative overhead that the school board has created the town doesn't have the resources to adequately run the school system. I can assure you that I don't want to hire an architect and build an addition on the school. That statement was a stab at the school board for their cavalier approach to spend my tax dollars. I also didn't say anything about consolidation. My statement was to outsource administrative services to the county. Now due to proposed state funding cuts to both the county and the town I'm sure consolidation is something that will be discussed. I apologize if I offended you in my last post, however I won't apologize to the rest of your silent majority who still have the heads stuck in the sand. I would also like to bring to your attention the comment you made about me having "Balls". The last time I looked I didn't have any, however if I was of that persuasion I woulld hope that they would be made of "BRASS"
Males Need Not Apply

AOL

#21 Feb 1, 2008
Can you say, Ms. Principal?

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