Builders worry landslide maps may sca...

Builders worry landslide maps may scare off buyers

There are 24 comments on the Asheville Citizen-Times story from Mar 1, 2009, titled Builders worry landslide maps may scare off buyers. In it, Asheville Citizen-Times reports that:

Jon Ostendorff * JOstendorff@CITIZEN-TIMES.com * published March 2, 2009 12:15 am State geologists have painstakingly identified hundreds of landslide-prone areas in the four years since a debris flow two miles ...

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Native

Maxton, NC

#1 Mar 2, 2009
The mentality of the local homebuilding community amazes me. They really don't like to be told what to do and have a very strong state political action committee to protect their interests.

What extreme thinking to say that no one will build here if we have slope legislation based on scientific facts instead of legislative opinion. Would they rather place people in harms way for the sake of the almighty dollar? Sure sounds like it. I would think responsible homebuilders would welcome this information.

“Report and Deport1866-DHS-2 ICE”

Since: Feb 07

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#2 Mar 2, 2009
Build in the valleys--duh. There are reasons why folks have not built on the sides of mountains and some people need the government to map this out for them...too funny.

It's really simple. The mountains have a thin layer of topsoil. Below that is rock. Disturb that and the potential for a slide is there. The rock moves once it is cut, it will chip away. You can build, but within 5 to 7 years, your basement will crack, your ceiling and walls will seperate and eventually what you have is a leaky, unhappy house. Now when ya figure in the remnants of the hurricanes and the occasional quake---well, use your common sense. That is another reason these mountain top developers want a quick turn around on these houses.
rickm

Charlotte, NC

#3 Mar 2, 2009
If we the the realtors make decisions for us there would be no slides as everything would be paved over.
the other native

Mcdonough, GA

#4 Mar 2, 2009
I agree with Mtnbred and Native. The "locals" know better than to build there. They also know a house built in such a location, while beautiful to look at, is a time bomb waiting to slide down the mountain. What galls me is that there are people (ed-u-kated) people who are screaming don't build there, but no one wants to loose a dollar. THEN, when the house falls down the mountain,(killing people in the process) the homeowners want to whine and sue someone (duuh usually the builder AND the local government for giving them the permit in the process!). Good luck finding a jury that will be sympathetic. I ask you, if I build a house on a tiny island surrounded by water, even after the weatherman, the locals, and everyone else tells me a hurricane is coming in three years, whose fault is it when a storm blows me away. Uuuh, that would be mine. While we don't have hurricanes in the mountains, we do feel the effect of them. The mountains are CONSTANTLY moving, and shifting. And someone who has just sold their home in Florida for seven figures really don't wan't to be told by a bunch of local boys that they can't build wherever they want. Especially, when the real estate agents, so willing to make a sale they will say ANYTHING has told them they can build anywhere they want. I've worked in public health where we have had to tell people you can't get a septic tank in there...there's nothing but rock. Only to be threatened with lawsuits because their real estate agents promised the land was suitable for a home. Slope legislation...great idea, but can we start legislation idiots and teaching ethics first?
nctxnc

Candler, NC

#5 Mar 2, 2009
I was the project manager for the Peek's Creek environmental/cleanup response and saw the area where the debris flow started and there were no houses built on this area. This area was solid rock that had been covered with shallow soils and once saturated the soils gave way and flowed down into the valley basically following Peek's Creek itself. The homes destroyed and lives lost were in the valley.
Sell and Tell

Eddyville, KY

#6 Mar 2, 2009
rickm wrote:
If we the the realtors make decisions for us there would be no slides as everything would be paved over.
But, then, Coldwell Banker real estate and their building is going under.
CJOHNNY

Boiling Springs, SC

#7 Mar 2, 2009
Good, go somewhere else, like London, England.
ALT

Auburn, AL

#8 Mar 2, 2009
Good, Im tired of outsiders ruining this area!
Moe

Pine Bush, NY

#9 Mar 2, 2009
Is this information open to the public? I wish the article had a link to the maps of landslide hazard areas.
Steph

Federalsburg, MD

#10 Mar 2, 2009
Two key words only need apply here. COMMON SENSE. everyone else who thinks they can build on a slope is an idiot.
Dave

Denver, NC

#11 Mar 2, 2009
This is not a matter of "outsiders," nor does it have anything to do with what's happening to local real estate brokers. Some developers, quoted in the story, are afraid that the entire area will be seen as unsafe to build upon. I don't see any evidence that this is actually true. It is a bad time for real estate, period. That bad time will not end any sooner by allowing homes to be built on sites determined to be unsafe.

What is crazy is the idea that allowing homes to be built in potential landslide areas is "good for business."
kjr

United States

#12 Mar 2, 2009
Let the builders, contractors, sight managers and real estate people be held responsible and liable for the death and destruction and then see how much they object to building and selling houses where they should not be.
West Asheville

Sewickley, PA

#13 Mar 2, 2009
You are a fool if you think you can't build on slopes. It's the morons who don't anchor into bedrock that are the problem. If done correctly it poses zero risk. It sounds more like people here are just mad that development is occuring on the sides of the mountains that they enjoy looking at. That is a different issue all together.

“Report and Deport1866-DHS-2 ICE”

Since: Feb 07

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#15 Mar 2, 2009
West Asheville wrote:
You are a fool if you think you can't build on slopes. It's the morons who don't anchor into bedrock that are the problem. If done correctly it poses zero risk. It sounds more like people here are just mad that development is occuring on the sides of the mountains that they enjoy looking at. That is a different issue all together.
Exactly what is anchoring into the bedrock doing, but disturbing the rock? How deep do you anchor? Can you guarantee ZERO risk?

Just curious...you must be in real estate.

“PO'd Puddy Cat”

Since: Jan 08

Asheville NC

#16 Mar 2, 2009
I think all developers should be held accountable for where and how they build. Look what happened out in Haywood County when a developer bought an apple orchard at auction and developed it. The soil was so contaminated from years of the orchard being sprayed with pesticides, especially DDT, back when it was used frequently,that the homes could not use their wells and the county had to run water lines to the development. Also, the people were told to take their shoes off before entering their homes. All the soil had to taken up and decontaminated. By then the developer was long gone and the expense fell on the county and the homeowners. Who was responsible for this, the developers, the county inspectors, who? Anyone from around her knew, or should have known about the pesticide.

“hi there !”

Since: Feb 08

candler nc

#17 Mar 2, 2009
mtnbred ,i think you are wasting your time!transplants with money does not= common sense.
franklinnative

Commerce, GA

#18 Mar 2, 2009
West Asheville wrote:
You are a fool if you think you can't build on slopes. It's the morons who don't anchor into bedrock that are the problem. If done correctly it poses zero risk. It sounds more like people here are just mad that development is occuring on the sides of the mountains that they enjoy looking at. That is a different issue all together.
How about these half-azzed roads they build going to these houses?

“Report and Deport1866-DHS-2 ICE”

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#19 Mar 2, 2009
mountain1 wrote:
mtnbred ,i think you are wasting your time!transplants with money does not= common sense.
Hi Mountain1...good to see ya.
Iffin they have the money, then build---but I don't wanna hear about it being someone elses fault when the house slides or becomes warped....

How ya doing?

“Old World Primate (Wandura)”

Since: Feb 09

Weaverville

#20 Mar 2, 2009
franklinnative wrote:
<quoted text>How about these half-azzed roads they build going to these houses?
Those roads that you speak of are probably put in by a developer that wants to just make some fat bucks and get the hell out of Dodge. A potential buyer should ask the developer if the roads are being to state DOT standards. If they are built to standards a nearby city/town may be willing to take the development (voluntary annexation)and provide road maintenance, fire protection and police protection.

Since: Feb 07

Ashevegas

#21 Mar 2, 2009
I visited Chimney Rock Park Saturday and looking across the gorge, saw the roads that have been slapped on the side of the mountain. I don't see where they can build on most of that road, given the amount of rock and potential for landslides all around. You can walk the woods in that area and see all the downed trees, and the gradual downhill movement of soil and rock, some bigger than a house. The idea of developing something like that is insane, yet it continues to be done.

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