Byrnes to introduce legislation to re...

Byrnes to introduce legislation to repeal Michigan ban on same-sex marriage

There are 10 comments on the michiganmessenger.com story from Jun 13, 2009, titled Byrnes to introduce legislation to repeal Michigan ban on same-sex marriage. In it, michiganmessenger.com reports that:

LANSING - State Rep. Pam Byrnes, a Democrat from Washtenaw County's Lyndon Township, is planning to introduce legislation that would repeal Michigan's 2004 ban on same-sex marriages. “The time has come,” the speaker pro-tem said in an interview with Michigan Messenger on Friday afternoon. “I think attitudes are changing. We are seeing other states flip on this issue especially when you get the former Vice President Dick Cheney acknowledging same-sex marriages then I think we definitely see a change in attitude and it’s time to revisit this.” Byrnes plans on formally announcing her legislation on Saturday at the Michigan Pride gay rights rally at the state Capitol. The move is only a first step toward eliminating the ban, Byrnes said. Because the legislation would change the state constitution, it will require a two-thirds vote in both houses of the legislature before the question can be placed on the ballot.

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“That's Mama Luigi to you too”

Since: Jun 08

Orange County,CA

#1 Jun 13, 2009
I don't know how that gonna work to repeal Proposal 04-2. Which passed by 59%

Daniel P from Long Island

“Protestant, Gay, Libertarian”

Since: Apr 08

Long Island, NY

#2 Jun 13, 2009
ANY law that denies EQUAL RIGHTS to it's citizens is ALREADY Unconstitutional.

Why do you think they passed the 14th Amendment more than 100 years ago ???

“That's Mama Luigi to you too”

Since: Jun 08

Orange County,CA

#3 Jun 13, 2009
On Sceond It's possible Repeal Michigan's Proposal 04-2 as well as Oregon Measure 36, Ohio State Issue 1 and many others next year or 2012,

“I am happy”

Since: Jul 08

St. Petersburg, FL

#4 Jun 13, 2009
Shadow Dragon wrote:
I don't know how that gonna work to repeal Proposal 04-2. Which passed by 59%
Anything can be repealed. Look at Prohibition of Alcohol.....

“Married as I can be!”

Since: Jun 07

Las Vegas

#5 Jun 13, 2009
I was living in Michigan when the ballot measure passed. Representative Byrnes is courageous for introducing this, but I think it's going to be a REAL hard sell. Michiganders are, for the most part, pretty well caught up in their bibles IMHO. They passed a measure by almost sixty percent that also harmed straight couples in the state by dissallowing domestic partnerships or any other formal legal contract establishing a union between two unmarried people.
I lived in Michigan WAAAAAY too long.

Since: Jan 07

Rochester, MI

#6 Jun 14, 2009
So long as Republican Mike Bishop remains the Senate Majority Leader, this will probably not even be brought to a vote in that chamber.

Even if the unthinkable happened and this were to miraculously pass both houses, I think it's highly unlikely that voters would pass a repeal of the amendment.

The best we could hope for is a modification that reserves marriage to opposite-sex couples but removes the ban on civil unions/domestic partnerships. And I think even that is not likely to pass, thanks to the ability of the Roman Catholic Church to spend millions of dollars campaigning against it, and the strong influence of calvinist churches on the west side of the state.

So hold the celebrations, and don't hold your breath.
mee

Hamilton, OH

#7 Sep 13, 2009
Daniel P from Long Island wrote:
ANY law that denies EQUAL RIGHTS to it's citizens is ALREADY Unconstitutional.
Why do you think they passed the 14th Amendment more than 100 years ago ???
This isn't about equal rights. Gays and lesbians have equal rights.

This is about two groups that have fundamentally different views of marriage. It would be nice to discuss the implications of each view before we decide to dispense with marriage altogether.(And that's exactly what will happen in twenty years if gay marriage is permitted.
Late Bloomer

United States

#9 Sep 14, 2009
mee wrote:
<quoted text>
This isn't about equal rights. Gays and lesbians have equal rights.
This is about two groups that have fundamentally different views of marriage. It would be nice to discuss the implications of each view before we decide to dispense with marriage altogether.(And that's exactly what will happen in twenty years if gay marriage is permitted.
That's silly.

Are straight people so weak and foolish as to decide never to form legally recognized families just because gay couples are now allowed to?

That makes straight folks pretty stupid, if you ask me.

And since when is being able to form a legally recognized family NOT a civil right?

It's one of the most basic rights there is.
Late Bloomer

United States

#10 Sep 14, 2009
mee wrote:
<quoted text>
This isn't about equal rights. Gays and lesbians have equal rights.
This is about two groups that have fundamentally different views of marriage. It would be nice to discuss the implications of each view before we decide to dispense with marriage altogether.(And that's exactly what will happen in twenty years if gay marriage is permitted.
That's just plain silly.

Are straight people so weak and foolish as to decide never to form legally recognized families just because gay couples are now allowed to?

That makes straight folks pretty stupid, if you ask me.

And since when is being able to form a legally recognized family NOT a civil right?

It's one of the most basic rights there is.

Since: Jun 09

Monrovia, CA

#11 Sep 14, 2009
mee wrote:
<quoted text>
This isn't about equal rights. Gays and lesbians have equal rights.
This is about two groups that have fundamentally different views of marriage. It would be nice to discuss the implications of each view before we decide to dispense with marriage altogether.(And that's exactly what will happen in twenty years if gay marriage is permitted.
Equal? Um no... Civil marriage is different than Religious marriage. I think you might be thinking of religious marriages than civil ones. I believe LGBTQ community want the civil marriage more so than the religious aspect of it.

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