Ventura County jail inmates won't be getting any letters from home

Full story: LA Daily News

Beginning Oct. 4, the jail is banning most letters as a security threat and will only allow mailed postcards, following similar restrictions implemented by counties in several other states.
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DAZ

Riverside, CA

#1 Sep 24, 2010
Good, It's Jail Not A Country Club.

“America & LEGAL Americans 1st”

Since: Aug 08

Chatsworth

#2 Sep 24, 2010
There are a lot of things jail inmates shouldn't have. They should be required to do more work to benefit the taxpayer instead of lounging around the yard or watching TV.
Whitey Whiteman

Lawndale, CA

#3 Sep 24, 2010
Keep those mexicans in jail they dont deserve to get out.
Robert Hauser

San Rafael, CA

#4 Sep 24, 2010
Gee, the stir birds can still receive letters from their lawyers...now that's damned White of the authorities to let them do that......your tax dollars at work making sure we have the most efficient swine state money can buy. You know, back when this septic tank was called America, a man was considered innocent until proven guilty.....and people who had been duly convicted of a crime in accordance with due process of law (a concept totally alien to the vast majority of people in this country now) were sent to prison AS punishment...not FOR it.

Anyone who has been in the armed forces knows damned full well that the easiest and quickest way to break the morale of troops is to buck-screw with their food....and with their mail. The anemic excuse that there have been "sophisticated attempts" to smuggle "contraband" inside the walls doesn't cut the mustard.....in the case of filthy rich drug cartelists, it might have some validity, but here it is being used as an excuse to break the spirit of people who haven't even been duly convicted yet...and that is violation of Constitutional rights under "color of law"....a federal felony committed by most law enforcement agencies, federal very much included, universally now and on a daily basis. And if any of you self-styled "law and order" creeps out there think this is so cute, I want to see the look on your faces when you have to go for even a few days without word from your loved ones after you end up in a FEMA camp because of a letter you wrote to the local rag....oh, but that never happens in "freedom loving America" now does it? Oh Hell !@#$%^ no, it doesn't
Robert Hauser

San Rafael, CA

#5 Sep 24, 2010
Most prison and jail inmates are blacks or mexicans---face it. If that's politically "incorrect" then that's too !@#$%^ bad.....suffer. I for one believe that America's immigration laws should be the most rigorously and vigorously enforced in this nation...failure or refusal to uphold our immigration laws by dildoes in public like Eric Holder has wrecked this nation irreparably....but even with all that, even while I adevocate the toughest immigration laws in the world...I still flatly condemn fiddle-screwing with inmates' mail unless there is some very damned compelling reason for doing so...and then you do it on a case-by-case basis rather than using "contraband" as an limp-wristed pretext for doing it across the board like that. Whoever runs the Ventura County jail must be some kind of power-tripping sociopath and that was what undoubtedly motivated him into "law" enforcement. This country is a sick puppy.
Ace

Glendale, CA

#6 Sep 24, 2010
What about cakes with files in them?
Concerned citizen

North Hollywood, CA

#7 Sep 24, 2010
Once again the ACLU is wasting tax payer dollars fighting for criminals instead of the innocent! Why don't they fight for the victims of these criminals? It's a pathetic existance support the ACLU.
Criminals need to be punished. If they act out in prison it's because they are animals anyway. They lack self control, self awareness, and they are criminally insane so what you get is who they are! They don't respect laws, the rights of their victims, so what would compel them to behave in prison.
These animal like menaces to society will use this as an excuse to act out, riot, and kill in prison but there is no excuse. That's why they're in jail and we are not.
They should be fed bread and water and made to work long hours, hard labor and forced into therapy, not given weights, movies, candy, steak dinners! Why do you think they always return, it's a cake walk!
True punishment and fear and therapy actually may have some impact on them in jail. Too many of them get a slap on the wrist and provision in jail is why they are life time criminals.
Wake up and vote for change. Kill those on death row, deport illegals in jail, and all others, treat them like they are, criminals.
Norman Moore

United States

#9 Sep 25, 2010
Her Mr. Hauser, I guess that living in the Socialist Republic of San Francisco, home of Crazy Nancy, has warped your understanding of the basics of life. Jail is not supposed to be a summer camp or country club. That applies to all but I would say more so to the so called "white collar" criminals. But I digress.

If people, any people, can not abide by the rules and they lose certain privileges then that is no body's fault but the ones who broke those rules and thereby messed it up for everyone. Your analogy using the armed forces is not just comparing apples to oranges it is apples to rocks.

People in our armed forces are serving the nation and putting their lives on their line for all of us. I don't see a tie in to people who have broken the law or are suspected of having done so. Perhaps you should cone out here to the middle of America where people's minds are not so addled as your thinking has apparently been by the San Francisco fog.
Concerned

Sherman Oaks, CA

#10 Sep 25, 2010
Why is the ACLU in existence?? Their priorities are so screwed up. They are like Communism...in theory it works...in reality it is completely messed up. I don't know who in their right mind would work or associate with the ACLU...it is like a cult. Pathetic.
Mark

Desert Hot Springs, CA

#11 Sep 25, 2010
DAZ wrote:
Good, It's Jail Not A Country Club.
You have never been to the Santa Barbara County Jail...
jmlc

Sherman Oaks, CA

#13 Sep 25, 2010
i hate it now we cant say personal stuff to our family cuz its gonna be out there for everyone to see...
jmlc

Sherman Oaks, CA

#14 Sep 25, 2010
mexicans do most of the jobs for u lazy asses so stop talking shit...and suck it!!!
Anamouse

Redondo Beach, CA

#15 Sep 27, 2010
So their worried that this will anger the inmates, well I have news for them, THEIR IN PRISON, not a hotel.

Perhaps if PRISON becomes a real bad place they won't want to go back.

Take out the gyms, no TVs or radios, food should be healthy but tasteless, and excercise should be limited to what they can do by themselves.

Make prision a place they leave looking like heck, not looking like they just got out of a health club on the beach, and then maybe they won't want to go back there.
Liz

Oxnard, CA

#16 Sep 29, 2010
I think all you racist people are so ignorant in no way do your comments have anything to do with the Topic and don't you all forget all the vegetables and fruits u eat get picked by illegals yet you are such hypocrites that yet you talk down on immigrants but yet you have the nerves to eat what they touched ! And oh don't forget this land u live on was at one time Mexico!! So anyways back to the topic I think they are still lucky to even be able to have any contact with the outer world because it could be worse they are suppose to be getting punished so something is better than nothing right?
Concerned

Sherman Oaks, CA

#17 Sep 29, 2010
Liz wrote:
I think all you racist people are so ignorant in no way do your comments have anything to do with the Topic and don't you all forget all the vegetables and fruits u eat get picked by illegals yet you are such hypocrites that yet you talk down on immigrants but yet you have the nerves to eat what they touched ! And oh don't forget this land u live on was at one time Mexico!! So anyways back to the topic I think they are still lucky to even be able to have any contact with the outer world because it could be worse they are suppose to be getting punished so something is better than nothing right?
I was going to let this go but can't...LIZ...first off, the "this used to be Mexico" is so tired...Mexico lost a war...years ago. Period. If they had been better fighters, then this would be Mexico, but they got their butts whooped, so it is the USA. Your house or apartment had someone else live in it before you...does that give that person the right to come into the place you live now anytime they want 'because it used to be their place'? No it does not. Same argument...still ridiculous.

Lastly, you mistake racism for confusion...i am not racist but do not understand why people want to live somewhere illegally. A Mexican man working at my neighbors house and i got into a discussion the other day. Nice guy...but has been here illegally for 15 years. He told me he owned a business and was a professional person in Mexico. He has been in the US for 15 years and is a handyman. Why would someone want to live in the US as a handyman instead of Mexico as a professional? I don't know why...but what i know is the US must be pretty damn good. So live here, quit complaining or if Mexico is so damn great, go live there.
Ignorant and arrogant

Ventura, CA

#18 Nov 9, 2010
Please stop being so ignorant and arrogant; we don't need any more of this.
1) Mexico did not lose the war; most wars are invasions. The biggest bully goes and takes what he wants. He uses a huge army and has the best weapons and a European education and white skin and calls it "war".

Most jails are worse than anything you can imagine. Prisoners are abused by guards and other prisoners, they live in filth, rarely see sunlight, are bombarded with loud TV all day that you are not allowed to turn off, are subject to rape/assault/violence from other prisoners that goes un -punised, and watch out for your life if you turn someone in.

There are almost no more job training programs or educational programs in jail and not even gyms. It is just punishment. The US has some of the longest jail sentences in the Western World: 4-11 years for a group of women who were attacked by a man in NYC in 2006; he's free (See the Lesbian Seven and the New Jersey Four); 10 years if you are the #1 Human Rights lawyer in the US (Lynne Stewart) 10 years if you lent a raincoat to a friend of yours while visiting him in London and did not know he was giving it to AlQuaida.

Corrections Corporations of America makes $100-115 a night per bed they fill in prisons; in private prisons and public/private prisons. Felons who are forced to work make an average of 50 cents and hour. Most states have passed laws forcing felons to work; if they refuse they get put in isolation.
These jobs are no training for the outside world - they are dishwashing, cleaning bathrooms, answering the phone for companies like American Express, working in factories.

Anyone who works in a free Western country should make at least the minimumwage,$7.25 an hour. Phil Knight, owner of Nike, was encouraged to hire prisoners in the States to make his shoes and told it would be as cheap as the sweatshops in Indonesia
where most of them are made.

If you think slavery is over - think again.

THE VOICE OF THE MEXICANS

Ventura, CA

#19 Dec 1, 2010
TO Whitey Whiteman.... HEY DIP STICK Y U GOTTA BE ALL RACIST WE DO ALL THE HARD WORK THAT UR LAZY AZZ CAN DO.... UR PROLLY A PICE OF SH1T ON WEALFAIR...I AINT GONNA SAYS WER PERFECT NO ONE IS SO BE FOE U START TALKING UR ISHTHINK WAT U GONNA SAYS FIRST U LAME
Troll Buster

Los Angeles, CA

#20 Dec 2, 2010
THE VOICE OF THE MEXICANS wrote:
TO Whitey Whiteman.... HEY DIP STICK Y U GOTTA BE ALL RACIST WE DO ALL THE HARD WORK THAT UR LAZY **** CAN DO.... UR PROLLY A PICE OF SH1T ON WEALFAIR...I AINT GONNA SAYS WER PERFECT NO ONE IS SO BE FOE U START TALKING UR ISHTHINK WAT U GONNA SAYS FIRST U LAME
If you went back to school and learned how to spell, we might take you seriously. Next thing you know, you'll be getting a job instead of stealing. Naaah, who am I kidding, we know that ain't gonna happen. Just keep doing what you're doing and you'll be with all your homeboys inside playing drop the soap and hide the chorizo.
janet

Los Angeles, CA

#22 May 31, 2011
Troll Buster wrote:
<quoted text>
If you went back to school and learned how to spell, we might take you seriously. Next thing you know, you'll be getting a job instead of stealing. Naaah, who am I kidding, we know that ain't gonna happen. Just keep doing what you're doing and you'll be with all your homeboys inside playing drop the soap and hide the chorizo.
"troll buster" your stupid! why dont u use your real name insted! any who he is just defending his own people. there are alot of racism out here and its stupud because we all need each other to make this work. we got the white people who go defend the mexicans in court. we got the blacks who make mexicans look great! and
Who gives a fuck about the rest!!!
Respond to concnern citez

Los Angeles, CA

#23 Jun 12, 2011
I hope you never end up in jail. You might be a concerned citizen but you are not a chosen to God. The way you talk if full of anger and hate. Instead of giving hate, start by loving yourself and giving love. This inmates don't need all that garbaage that your are saying they need Jesus in there lifes. They need love and people wiht compasion. Yes, I do understand that there is criminals that there is no choice to put them in death roe, however criminal acts start in the street and at home. Start giving out love and forgiveness rather then bitterness.
Concerned citizen wrote:
Once again the ACLU is wasting tax payer dollars fighting for criminals instead of the innocent! Why don't they fight for the victims of these criminals? It's a pathetic existance support the ACLU.
Criminals need to be punished. If they act out in prison it's because they are animals anyway. They lack self control, self awareness, and they are criminally insane so what you get is who they are! They don't respect laws, the rights of their victims, so what would compel them to behave in prison.
These animal like menaces to society will use this as an excuse to act out, riot, and kill in prison but there is no excuse. That's why they're in jail and we are not.
They should be fed bread and water and made to work long hours, hard labor and forced into therapy, not given weights, movies, candy, steak dinners! Why do you think they always return, it's a cake walk!
True punishment and fear and therapy actually may have some impact on them in jail. Too many of them get a slap on the wrist and provision in jail is why they are life time criminals.
Wake up and vote for change. Kill those on death row, deport illegals in jail, and all others, treat them like they are, criminals.

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