Teen accused of killing gay classmate faces trial

There are 14 comments on the Jul 4, 2011, Erie Times News story titled Teen accused of killing gay classmate faces trial. In it, Erie Times News reports that:

Brandon McInerney was a scrawny 14-year-old from a broken home when he was accused of gunning down a gay classmate in front of stunned students at a Ventura County middle school.

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“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#49 Jul 6, 2011
Just one? Don't you have Search on your browser?
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/09/07...
Frank Stanton

New York, NY

#50 Jul 6, 2011
nhjeff wrote:
Just one? Don't you have Search on your browser?
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/09/07...
no
Frank Stanton

New York, NY

#51 Jul 6, 2011
nhjeff wrote:
Just one? Don't you have Search on your browser?
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/09/07...
I was already very familiar with that case. That is probably the most famous case of that type. Although I believe he was innocent, I do not believe that that has been legally proven.

Are you familiar with the Hawley Crippen case ?

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#52 Jul 6, 2011
Frank Stanton wrote:
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I was already very familiar with that case. That is probably the most famous case of that type. Although I believe he was innocent, I do not believe that that has been legally proven.
I guess it depends what you mean by "proved." After he was dead, Willingham did not get a new day in court, so his conviction was not overturned.[Of course, we'll both agree that being found innocent or having your conviction overturned is also not proof that you didn't do it.] However, the scientific evidence reported in that article is compelling. It would at least give any jury reasonable doubt.
Are you familiar with the Hawley Crippen case ?
No, I hadn't been. I must admit, I still find the circumstantial evidence compelling.

“IBM had it right: "Think"”

Since: Mar 07

SF Bay Area Suburbs

#53 Jul 6, 2011
Frank Stanton wrote:
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Many states have laws that say you cannot hold a person past his 21st birthday, even if convicted of murder. I don't know what the law in his state is.
California allows juveniles to be tried as adults, depends on the judge and lawyers.

“IBM had it right: "Think"”

Since: Mar 07

SF Bay Area Suburbs

#54 Jul 6, 2011
Frank Stanton wrote:
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I do not believe there is a single case in U.S. history, sinc ethe U.S. Constitution was ratified, where it has been proven (as you say) that an innocent person was executed.
If you disagree, then please cite just one case.
Mary seat (SP?), the boarding house owner who accidentally sheltered john wills booth.
Frank Stanton

New York, NY

#55 Jul 6, 2011
Gary47 wrote:
<quoted text>California allows juveniles to be tried as adults, depends on the judge and lawyers.
Well I'm certainly aware of that. And this kid IS being chared as an adult, as wel he should be.

But a few years ago, SCOTUS said in a ruling (which I disagree with), that it is UNCONSTITUTIONAL to execute a person of any age, IF the crime that he or she was convicted of occurred BEFORE his or her 18th birthday.

So in this case, even though he is being tied as an adult, and even if the court found "special circumstances, which ordinarily would allow for the death penalty, because he was under 18 years old when he murdered Larry King, the most he could be sentenced to is life in prison without possibilty of parole. I hope that is what he is sentenced to.
Rich

Searsport, ME

#56 Aug 6, 2011
Wasn't the shooter being bullied? Or was 2008 too early to cash in on the cause du jour? Or does one need be of a certain sexuality to be the victim of bullying,eliminating the shooter from consideration?

“The Sky Is Falling!”

Since: Apr 07

Chicago, IL

#57 Aug 6, 2011
Rich wrote:
Wasn't the shooter being bullied? Or was 2008 too early to cash in on the cause du jour? Or does one need be of a certain sexuality to be the victim of bullying,eliminating the shooter from consideration?
Good evening DIMWIT.

The difference between the "bullying" here is that most victims of it DON'T BRING A GUN TO SCHOOL AND SHOOT SOMEONE DEAD... IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD. Most victims of bullying commit suicide or cut themselves or....

You really don't get it, do you? Intellectually, you are quite POOR aren't you "Rich" ??
Rich

Searsport, ME

#58 Aug 6, 2011
eyeful wrote:
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Good evening DIMWIT.
The difference between the "bullying" here is that most victims of it DON'T BRING A GUN TO SCHOOL AND SHOOT SOMEONE DEAD... IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD. Most victims of bullying commit suicide or cut themselves or....
You really don't get it, do you? Intellectually, you are quite POOR aren't you "Rich" ??
Your slavish devotion to ideology prevents you from seeing any truth but the predetermined variety. Bullying is bullying, hadthe sexuality of the participants been reversed you would no doubt be singing a different tune.

“The Sky Is Falling!”

Since: Apr 07

Chicago, IL

#59 Aug 6, 2011
Rich wrote:
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Your slavish devotion to ideology prevents you from seeing any truth but the predetermined variety. Bullying is bullying, hadthe sexuality of the participants been reversed you would no doubt be singing a different tune.
WTF?

Really?

Say goodnight, Gracie....

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#60 Aug 7, 2011
Rich wrote:
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Your slavish devotion to ideology prevents you from seeing any truth but the predetermined variety. Bullying is bullying, hadthe sexuality of the participants been reversed you would no doubt be singing a different tune.
Yes, you're half right. But the "bullying" was a two-way street. It's easy to see how someone ridiculed forhis effiminance would react by using the same as a weapon of extravagance. But worse than any bullying in school was the abuse at home. This is a horrible situation all around. And now one boy is dead and another's life is ruined. I have nothing but sadness for everyone.
Rich

Searsport, ME

#61 Aug 7, 2011
nhjeff wrote:
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Yes, you're half right. But the "bullying" was a two-way street. It's easy to see how someone ridiculed forhis effiminance would react by using the same as a weapon of extravagance. But worse than any bullying in school was the abuse at home. This is a horrible situation all around. And now one boy is dead and another's life is ruined. I have nothing but sadness for everyone.
Very reasonable.The abuse at home was no doubt instrumental in his reaction .
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United States

#62 Aug 7, 2011
big deal

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