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Jurors can consider manslaughter in gay killing

There are 74 comments on the www.sacbee.com story from Aug 24, 2011, titled Jurors can consider manslaughter in gay killing. In it, www.sacbee.com reports that:

LOS ANGELES -- A California judge decided jurors can consider convicting a teen of voluntary manslaughter in the killing of a gay classmate at school. Defendant Brandon McInerney is charged with murder in the shooting of 15-year-old Larry King. Read more

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“Live and let live”

Since: Apr 08

New Orleans

#63 Aug 31, 2011
Charlie Feather wrote:
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It was more of a crime of passion. First degree murder charges are brought usually when some sort of material gain is involved. There was none for Brandon. He was acting under great emotional stress from Larry Kingís sadistic taunts.
You know, I speculated.... Based on my own personal experience, I've wondered, could it be possible these two had a young lover's quarrel? I only say so because at the young age of 13 my first bf tried to steal my dad's gun to kill me. Thankfully, he was caught and the gun was found, but the whole thing evolved out of a situation where he knew he was gay, and didn't know how to handle it.

“and how does this effect you?”

Since: Mar 11

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#64 Aug 31, 2011
Josh in New Orleans wrote:
<quoted text>You know, I speculated.... Based on my own personal experience, I've wondered, could it be possible these two had a young lover's quarrel? I only say so because at the young age of 13 my first bf tried to steal my dad's gun to kill me. Thankfully, he was caught and the gun was found, but the whole thing evolved out of a situation where he knew he was gay, and didn't know how to handle it.
Yeah, and until people can learn to live and let live that won't be the last time it happens.
Sgt Common Sense

Denver, CO

#65 Sep 1, 2011
Has anyone heard anything on this case? Hasn't the jury been out for a while?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#66 Sep 1, 2011
Charlie Feather wrote:
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He may have known it only in some abstract sense, but he didnít have the maturity at 13 to know it in an emotional sense.
He should be re-educated. It would be a shame to lose what could be a valuable member of society.
Just remember you said that when some 13 y/o shoots someone you love in the back of the head......

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#67 Sep 7, 2011
Sgt Common Sense wrote:
Has anyone heard anything on this case? Hasn't the jury been out for a while?
I believe it was a hung jury and will be retried.
Sgt Common Sense

United States

#68 Sep 7, 2011
nhjeff wrote:
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I believe it was a hung jury and will be retried.
Thanks, I see the prosecution may offer 25 years in a plea bargan. If taken he'll be out 20 years or less. The jury decision is unbelievable.

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#69 Sep 7, 2011
Sgt Common Sense wrote:
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Thanks, I see the prosecution may offer 25 years in a plea bargan. If taken he'll be out 20 years or less. The jury decision is unbelievable.
IMO, given the age and background, he ought to be given an opportunity to rejoin society BEFORE his life is half-over, provided he shows clear signs of rehabilitation. If he gets out when he's nearly 40, he's practically guaranteed to be a drain on society the rest of his life.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#70 Sep 7, 2011
nhjeff wrote:
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IMO, given the age and background, he ought to be given an opportunity to rejoin society BEFORE his life is half-over, provided he shows clear signs of rehabilitation. If he gets out when he's nearly 40, he's practically guaranteed to be a drain on society the rest of his life.
Nope. ANYONE who brutally murders someone like he did simply CAN NOT be trusted to rejoin society- EVER!

He forfitted his opportunity to rejoin society when he pulled the trigger- TWICE! How long after he has been "rehabilitated" will he find another reason to kill someone else, maybe this time because they're left-handed or blonde or fat or tall etc etc.

I agree he will be a drain on society no matter what, which is why I strongly advocate the death penalty for ALL premeditated murder no matter how young or old or crazy or whatver other excuse people want to come up with. Once you've crossed that threshhold of taking a human life one time, the next time becomes easier & easier. Then everyone looks back and wonders why this serial killer was never stopped when he was a teenager........

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#71 Sep 7, 2011
Well, Sheeple, many share your opinion. But I'm not sure that rehabilitation experts would confirm such a blanket characterization. Nevertheless, I would agree with you that a troubled childhood followed by early imprisonment would not bode well for Mr. McInherny.

Since: Oct 09

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#72 Sep 7, 2011
Even if convicted he will be up for parole in 7 years
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Nope. ANYONE who brutally murders someone like he did simply CAN NOT be trusted to rejoin society- EVER!
He forfitted his opportunity to rejoin society when he pulled the trigger- TWICE! How long after he has been "rehabilitated" will he find another reason to kill someone else, maybe this time because they're left-handed or blonde or fat or tall etc etc.
I agree he will be a drain on society no matter what, which is why I strongly advocate the death penalty for ALL premeditated murder no matter how young or old or crazy or whatver other excuse people want to come up with. Once you've crossed that threshhold of taking a human life one time, the next time becomes easier & easier. Then everyone looks back and wonders why this serial killer was never stopped when he was a teenager........

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#73 Sep 8, 2011
Honest AbeL wrote:
Even if convicted he will be up for parole in 7 years
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Which is why we need to change our laws to ensure ALL murderers are put to death within a month of their conviction.

Since: Oct 09

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#74 Sep 9, 2011
I could back you on that one
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Which is why we need to change our laws to ensure ALL murderers are put to death within a month of their conviction.

Since: Apr 07

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#75 Sep 14, 2011
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Nope. ANYONE who brutally murders someone like he did simply CAN NOT be trusted to rejoin society- EVER!
He forfitted his opportunity to rejoin society when he pulled the trigger- TWICE! How long after he has been "rehabilitated" will he find another reason to kill someone else, maybe this time because they're left-handed or blonde or fat or tall etc etc.
I agree he will be a drain on society no matter what, which is why I strongly advocate the death penalty for ALL premeditated murder no matter how young or old or crazy or whatver other excuse people want to come up with. Once you've crossed that threshhold of taking a human life one time, the next time becomes easier & easier. Then everyone looks back and wonders why this serial killer was never stopped when he was a teenager........
You are such a hateful, bitter old man! You must be a Republican!

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#76 Sep 14, 2011
Charlie Feather wrote:
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You are such a hateful, bitter old man! You must be a Republican!
Nope, I'm more of a libertarian who doesn't believe murderers can be rehabilitated. Once you've crossed that threshhold you can never go back. Taking a life changes you forever; just ask any military member who had to kill in wartime or even someone who accidentally killed another (car crash etc).

If you can justify murder once, then you can justify it twice, then three times, then four, etc.

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