Utahn accused of impersonating immigr...

Utahn accused of impersonating immigration cop gets 4 days of jail work

There are 9 comments on the Salt Lake Tribune story from Feb 27, 2012, titled Utahn accused of impersonating immigration cop gets 4 days of jail work. In it, Salt Lake Tribune reports that:

Orem a A self-described Orem activist was sentenced Monday to four days on work diversion at the Utah County Jail for impersonating police officer and detaining a college student he suspected of being in the country illegally.

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Mark Vreeland

Provo, UT

#1 Feb 28, 2012
It's amazing to me how so many people have uninformed opinions (not facts)...they weren't there and ASSUME what they read in the media is completely accurate. In THIS case it's WAY off. A bleeding heart police officer and a corrupt heavy handed Orem prosecutor Mr Bob Church. Seen him in action MANY times. He protects the officers even when he knows the truth otherwise. Its the conflict of interest and wanting to win....rather than seek true justice. This is the same prosecutor who just a couple years back endorsed the Orem PD of handcuffing a 70yr old woman for not watering her lawn. It was huge and obvious of the overreach (which by the way is fairly well know about this Mr Church) I'll just take a couple points here...1) The article indicates from Mr Church that Vreeland was wearing police attire to include a ICE/Police hat. There was one piece which was the hat (legal) used often as other law enforcement and military clothing I have... it's my support for the hard jobs they do. But Mr Church spun a lie/inferring that there was more. 2) In a recent "victim's impact statement" in court the true perp (Souza)(who did in fact run the stop sign...as is done often in this intersection corridor along with extreme speeds in a church and school zone. The police have stepped up on this at least temporarily)... well Souza claimed that I asked him to go to the sidewalk and put his hands up. Ummm check the police report....this has NEVER been claimed before. Pretty amazing and telling for the lies that he spins. 3) Mr Church...has a vendetta against me (Vreeland)....because he knows a former inlaw relative of mine being a law enforcement officer...who got involved with my divorce and followed me into Orem badgering me.(two officers were reprimanded officially when they violated my civil rights) I formerly NEVER had an adult criminal record and have been a weapon's permit holder for over 20yrs. I have volunteered in many capacities in group and individual therapy programs, on one on one basis, on the county crisis line, and blog openly of any number of issues to include child abuse, substance abuse, addictions, corruption, politics, religion/spirituality, and generally to learn, teach as a resource person and pay it forward giving back. Another interesting tidbit is I offered to take a lie detector test ... but of course they don't want to take me up on that...they just want to win. Sound familiar? There is the possibility of the now new info given by Souza and the relationship of Mr Church and his reputation that the plea may be pulled or changed, an appeal filed for TRUTH....we shall see. My facebook page is totally open to the public. People may not like some of my views or methods.....but as I always say make a difference in your community....and speak up with courage. Be prepared however to become a target (as the messenger)....or the old "no good deed goes unpunished". Dig deep before making judgement of things that are painted on one side in lies and corruption. Over the last 3+ years the local authorities from Orem have had 911 calls from me....a couple dozen or so. This would include other PDs as well. The police say we want the public to be our eyes and ears. But then watch out for those egos..... Mark Vreeland
Mark Vreeland

Provo, UT

#2 Feb 28, 2012
Well the jury is in for sure.....The Orem City Prosecutor spins half truths and is untrustworthy like many of the politicians we have. Mr EGO LIAR. A shameful example of wrong tax payer money being spent on an officer of the court....said very loosely. Borderline corruption. Overreach and shooting the messenger. The positive side is that illegal immigration was discussed, the "perp" on a legal visa supported by our tax dollars...also a liar.....And Orem city traffic enforcement doing better. Yet we still have definate room for improvement on solar stop signs and monitoring closely the violations in this church/school corridor. We'll see how it goes on stepped up efforts. Gettin better.... ah the good and the bad of it all. This scenario is totally like our nation. Poor ethics by the public servants.
Mark Vreeland

Provo, UT

#3 Feb 28, 2012
One other "comment" in the moment that I neglected to point out on the "politics" of this prosecutors office....Mr Steve Frazier, counsel with the public defender's office out of Provo (Esplin & Weight)....who did a great job for his clients in defending their rights....well Mr Bob Church saw to it that Mr Frazier was sanctioned ... banned from the Orem court under the Pub Defender's contract....hence in the aftermath fray....Mr Nagamatsu was appointed to replace him more to THEIR liking(the prosecutor's)....very disappointing for tax payers funds to be spent this way.(Mr Nagamatsu is great as well) Our country by the way has the highest incarceration rate per capita in the world in overreaches and victimless crimes...and 10% of the prison/jail population are innocent. Jailing for the most trivial issues very often. It's sad. And often for over profit without rehab. Hence the high re offender's rate. Think of the many reforms this country truly should be looking at and majorly improving upon......Mark Vreeland
Mark Vreeland

Provo, UT

#4 Feb 28, 2012
Mark Vreeland

Provo, UT

#5 Feb 28, 2012
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PROPER IMMIGRATION FOR US ALL
cowboy

Spanish Fork, UT

#6 Mar 14, 2012
Mark;
I have brown hair, brown eyes and get pretty tan during the summer(I'm Scottish and German) and a combat Veteran and I can tell you if you "pulled me over"??????
You'd be dead right now so just be happy you got off as easy as you did.

ps., I am against illegal aliens........ But you'd still be dead!
Mark Vreeland

Pleasant Hill, OR

#7 Mar 14, 2012
cowboy wrote:
Mark;
I have brown hair, brown eyes and get pretty tan during the summer(I'm Scottish and German) and a combat Veteran and I can tell you if you "pulled me over"??????
You'd be dead right now so just be happy you got off as easy as you did.
ps., I am against illegal aliens........ But you'd still be dead!
My reply...apparently you haven't read the whole story anywhere....the Trib and others who play off the Trib coverage had it about 50% wrong as to what actually happened. I never pulled over anyone. I followed as I've done many times before. And I wouldn't count on your threat as being achieveable....I am a skilled defender....and a great marksman complete with a sundry of tools in the right to bear arms and weapons. I've never shot at or drawn a gun on anyone yet nor do i wish to....but as I've said the article you've read is poppycock and the police playing bleeding hearts and the city prosecutor being corrupt himself. Long story that goes back 3 1/2 yrs. So your threats or intimidation in my life walk is silliness and unfounded. Peace man. Do good in your community however you can. The media hypes and chooses conveniently to leave facts out for press sales.
Mark Vreeland

Pleasant Hill, OR

#8 Mar 14, 2012
Oh and I am from a HUGE military family which includes combat veterans (4 of my 5 sons are in).... which really again is not of importance nor fear for me. Thank you for your service. And also thank the Bush group for sending our innocents to kill other innocents for profit/wall street/oil. False flags of Viet Nam, gulf wars, 911, Afghan, and Iraq. Stay in touch with the VA to calm your anxiety and PTSD bro.
cowboy

Spanish Fork, UT

#9 Mar 16, 2012
Sorry Mark, no PTSD.
By your own statements to the media you convicted yourself... No apologies......
You come from a HUGE Military family, including your kids........God Bless them and keep them safe......My point of stating my service was not blowing my horn, it was just a "qualifying" statement, my "bonifides" if you will. I have a CCW and that one question has already been answered.........If you don't know what I mean, ask one of your kids who have been there.

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