UTAH GOVERNOR: Gov staffers knew settlement contract details before...

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Things may not be what they appeared last week during the governor's monthly press conference.

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mike rotch

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typical of a fox network to side with the republican party regardless of the corruption. it quite obvious the governor knew about, and that UDOT infuriated with the administration decision to accept a bride for the bid
kpeck5martin

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I think the governer lied about what he knew. He should have told the truth, the whole truth. If you ask me there is too many things he says he knows nothing about. If he is in charge, he should know what is going on.
David Gross

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The Governor has always been a liar, he's always been deceitful, he broke promises he made, and this simply vindicates my strong dislike for the man. I can't wait to vote against him.
J Barney

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It really looks as though we have a liar for governor.
Ron

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You've got to be kidding me! UDOT doesn't pay $13M without approval from the governor! Thirteen million dollars!! Even Niles isn't that stupid. And nobody should claim the $13M was paid to the LOSING bidder. They were obviously the "winning" bidder according to the rules or UDOT would not have paid them to go away. For some reason, UDOT decided to award the contract to the LOSING bidder. I wonder how that happened? I doubt it happened without direction from someone higher up. Niles Easton should be fired, required to pay restitution, and jailed. And our wonderful governor should be voted out of office before he sells the rest of the state to the highest bidder. And our alert legislature needs to wake up if they really weren't involved. Or were they? I guess it is possible they had SO MUCH money to spend that they lost track of $10 or $ 20 MILLION!!! Maybe it was more, who knows?
van2394

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Since Governor Herbert's campaign has been about his "honest" character that has so much "integrity," it seems strange and definitely wrong that he blatantly lies on camera telling he didn't know in advance of either the transaction or the amount. He should have known about $13 million long before that.(I wonder how many teachers, firemen, and policemen are found in 13 million dollars which we do not have today) All that money was paid as "hush" money to the losing bidder to keep him quiet not to pursue any legal action. Something ought to be paid up front for the losing contestant's time and expense in submitting a bid, but this payoff was above that inasmuch as the CEO of that company can't comment on the settlement after he questioned the improprieties of the bid.
Maximillian

Salt Lake City, UT

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Sep 22, 2010
 
Another research item, go back in UDOTs records of past major, Major road rebuild projects, like the I-15 rebuild in SL County and see how much they paid the losing contractors and compare to value of the Utah county project versus SL County, and take into account time value of money.

Sounds like to me, that the scoring of the proposals and last minute points assigned were changed and when the scoring tabulation page was requested by the losing firm, was blatant, and looked so bad that $13 million was paid to quiet the story before it got to this point.
Becky

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Imagine if all of us had cameras following us around, parsing and dissecting every word we said on a daily basis. Everyone makes mistakes and everyone misspeaks, we just don't get called on it. Who cares if the governor knew 30 minutes or three days before the press conference? He should have been told a year ago! As for his staff, who's probably bombarded with information every time they turn around, it sounds like they told him when they could. Getting busy does not equal conspiracy theory, as much as people would like us to think it does!
noblondes

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J Barney wrote:
It really looks as though we have a liar for governor.
We do have a governor that is a liar!!

I second your comment.

He can't even lie good, especially on camera!!

If I were him I would tell the truth and try and get back some of the voters that feel that he did lie on this subject!
noblondes

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Ron wrote:
You've got to be kidding me! UDOT doesn't pay $13M without approval from the governor! Thirteen million dollars!! Even Niles isn't that stupid. And nobody should claim the $13M was paid to the LOSING bidder. They were obviously the "winning" bidder according to the rules or UDOT would not have paid them to go away. For some reason, UDOT decided to award the contract to the LOSING bidder. I wonder how that happened? I doubt it happened without direction from someone higher up. Niles Easton should be fired, required to pay restitution, and jailed. And our wonderful governor should be voted out of office before he sells the rest of the state to the highest bidder. And our alert legislature needs to wake up if they really weren't involved. Or were they? I guess it is possible they had SO MUCH money to spend that they lost track of $10 or $ 20 MILLION!!! Maybe it was more, who knows?
I do agree with most of your comment.

I personally know that UDOT can take the second bid, If the company has a proven record of good work, maybe they could complete it faster. It could go to the second bid for almost any reason that they want.

If our governor was not aware of this payoff then, what does he do?

Drive around in helicoptors looking at a fire???
jdee

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Settlement aside, you can tell UDOT is the fall guy here for the governor. They should have told them sooner, but even telling the staff last week they thought they were giving the governor a heads up. When the governor lied at the press conference, he's making UDOT cover his tracks and taking down what appear to be two sincere men. Look at the governor's interviews and how shady he looks when he says he doesn't know anything (his favorite answer) and look at how apologetic and honest john nord and niles look. It is clear who is taking the fall here. What's sad is he will still win and he knows it. Then he will make a political example of udot who is taking the fall for his lies and fire them all. I guess fortunately, it's only two years of herbie, then the real election can happen. I hope he is sleeping well that he is lying about everything and destroying good people to get in that bed.
Wells79

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Sep 23, 2010
 
Sounds like a case of Plausible Deniability - yeah no body knew, because no one wanted anyone with the influence of an upcoming election year TO know; that way you can deny, deny, deny in light of any controversy.
Enter Controversy.
Seriously though, it may have been cheaper for whoever made the decision to just pay off the contractor rather than go through the hassle, lawsuit, or scandal associated with a perceived slight in the awards process, but the Utah Public had a right to know.
I wouldn't pay a guy to do my gardening and then pay off the neighbors gardener to do nothing, just because the first guy offered me a hat in return. Of course, in this case the hat seems have Gubernatorial Advantage, but the point remains valid.
It's rather disappointing that this is coming to light, considering the Governor we voted for is now overseas.
Uninsured

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Sep 23, 2010
 
It is a MOUNTAIN!
Our tax dollars are not to be used and should not be discounted by calling it a "moehill!"
Disgusted Citizen

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Sep 23, 2010
 
WHAT? Our state leaders don't know how it's funding spent. SURPRISE!!! 13 millions dollar's? I DON'T BUY IT!!! What kind of incompetent people are running our state. Looks like some changes need to be made. You think you can spend our money like it's your own personal piggy bank.

Look at this puppet with UDOT, "Oh it's my bad." You think this is an exceptable response. So either way if you knew, or didn't your an incompetent. Your son's out there perving through windows, your out there paying off people with the states money.

YOU THINK YOU SHOULD BE RUNNING FOR RE_ELECTION? Whatever!!!
Francis L Johnson

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My opinon on this whol fiasco is the fact that Mayor Corroon is loseing in the polls and is trying to put something into this transaction between UDOT and a unsuccesful bidder as an under the table pay-off. If he wasn't running for Governor this would never have been brought up. John Njord was doing his job as UDOT Director and Herbert was doing his job as Governor, and so far in my opinon both are doing a great job. I wish the Corroon Camp would stop looking for dirt and give us their ideas on how they think they would lead this State through these hard times. This is much adou about nothing.
Taz2

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Sep 23, 2010
 
Why is it they where only young people there no older people did the for get we vote to. They need more older people to be there and get there opion about there ideas. We are the home owners and the main voting force.
Ron

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Sep 23, 2010
 
Taz2 wrote:
Why is it they where only young people there no older people did the for get we vote to. They need more older people to be there and get there opion about there ideas. We are the home owners and the main voting force.
Huh?
Ron

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Sep 23, 2010
 
noblondes wrote:
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I do agree with most of your comment.
I personally know that UDOT can take the second bid, If the company has a proven record of good work, maybe they could complete it faster. It could go to the second bid for almost any reason that they want.
If our governor was not aware of this payoff then, what does he do?
Drive around in helicoptors looking at a fire???
That seems to be the excuse. UDOT awarded the contract to the "other" company because they could complete it faster or with less disruption to traffic. That sounds fine, but why the $13M payout to the losing bidder?

Nobody could have said much if the winning bidder had just given our governor a large campaign contribution and that was it. However, the large contribution combined with the very large payout to the losing bidder really makes it smell.

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