Feds looking for extension on Trinity water permits until 2030

Full story: Eureka Times Standard

The U.S. Bureau of Reclamation is asking for a decades-long extension of state water permits on the Trinity River to give it more time to find uses for the water -- a move river advocates say could threaten the water available for salmon and steelhead.
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Since: Dec 07

Eureka/Hoopa, CA

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Oct 27, 2009
 
It seems hard to understand why Northern California water is being shipped to the Central Valley and then the North is to figure out how to protect its resources. Why don't they stop shipping water to the Central Valley Project and tell them to figure out others ways of doing business?

Personally, I would not allow the extension and expect the Bureau to come up with other ways of meeting their goals as well as demanding those involved in the Central Valley Project to do the same. There seems to be little left of what was once a very vibrant fish habitat in the Trinity and the Klamath and I believe the lack of water has been partially to blame. Why do they want to continue this after it has been proven in various studies that the lack of water is killing the environment along the Trinity River?

Are there new studies that proves different?
humbug

Eureka, CA

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#2
Oct 27, 2009
 
No.
WTF

Carlotta, CA

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Oct 27, 2009
 
Skippy56 wrote:
It seems hard to understand why Northern California water is being shipped to the Central Valley and then the North is to figure out how to protect its resources. Why don't they stop shipping water to the Central Valley Project and tell them to figure out others ways of doing business?
Personally, I would not allow the extension and expect the Bureau to come up with other ways of meeting their goals as well as demanding those involved in the Central Valley Project to do the same. There seems to be little left of what was once a very vibrant fish habitat in the Trinity and the Klamath and I believe the lack of water has been partially to blame. Why do they want to continue this after it has been proven in various studies that the lack of water is killing the environment along the Trinity River?
Are there new studies that proves different?
The lack of water is the ENTIRE problem...no water = high temperatures = ZERO fish species dependent upon cold headwaters for spawning (i.e. salmon and steelhead). Pretty simple but agricultural and human needs outweigh fish concerns. What isnot understood is that we're completely doing more harm than good because our ecosystem is being severely impacted and in turn fisherman are seeing low fish stock numbers which in turn put people out of business. It's a war of resources!
Scott Greacen - EPIC

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#4
Oct 27, 2009
 
The Bureau of Wrecklamation is, like too many of our state and federal agencies, so focused on the part of its mission for which it is rewarded (in this case, sending water to its customers, primarily wealthy and powerful Central Valley ag interests) that it neglects little details like following the law.

An additional wrinkle in the Trinity River water claims picture is the 50,000 acre-feet of Upper Trinity water reserved to Humboldt County. Today, that water could and should be the strategic reserve of cold water available to prevent another salmon die-off in the lower Klamath below Weitchepec, but somehow many years the water isn't there - BuRec has sent it down the Central Valley. Even a county's rights don't seem to rate with the BuRec.

Humboldt County is going to have to stand up for itself to secure this water. That's only going to happen if the citizens of Humboldt County demand it. Similarly, only real political pressure will prevent BuRec from basically reneging on the the deal that put half the Trinity's stolen water back.
Deja Vu

Eureka, CA

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#5
Oct 27, 2009
 
Aren't environmentalists convenient to have around when they're right?

Thank you EPIC.
Middle-o-the-roa d

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#6
Oct 27, 2009
 
Follow this;

I pay taxes so dams and canals can be built to ship MY water south.

I pay taxes so rich farmers who only hire illegal farm hands can raise price supported crops (cotton & feed corn).

My government ships the cotton to third-world countries so they can make products and sell said products back here in the U.S. at cheap prices that put me out of work.

Other farmers sell the corn to feed-lots to put fat on cattle so I have to pay more for the meat so I can cut the fat off and throw it away.

Save the Klamath/Trinity, no more water welfare for farmers!
illogical

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#7
Oct 27, 2009
 
The U.S. Bureau of Reclamation holds rights to some 16 million acre feet of Trinity water even though the annual runoff into the river averages less than 1.4 million acre feet. Why? Who gave away 11.42 TIMES the amount of of average runnoff?

Can this be right? Is it factually correct, and is it conscionable?
The B of R is the lead agency in the restoration of the Trinity River, and that is going just swimmingly well!
They've been dumping water to press their case for more water storage, and will never leave the Trinity alone.
Charter boat Becky

Modesto, CA

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#8
Oct 27, 2009
 
Pull the dams and let the water run the way nature intended. Fish deserve it.

Since: Feb 08

Hana, HI

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Oct 27, 2009
 
Middle-o-the-road wrote:
Follow this;
I pay taxes so dams and canals can be built to ship MY water south.
I pay taxes so rich farmers who only hire illegal farm hands can raise price supported crops (cotton & feed corn).
My government ships the cotton to third-world countries so they can make products and sell said products back here in the U.S. at cheap prices that put me out of work.
Other farmers sell the corn to feed-lots to put fat on cattle so I have to pay more for the meat so I can cut the fat off and throw it away.
Save the Klamath/Trinity, no more water welfare for farmers!
Right on, very well said. I agree with you 100 percent. Let the Central Valley and L.A. shrivel up and die. I can't believe that they have been able to steal out water for so long, and that they are allowed to continue. If it were not for them stealing our water, there would only be a few thousand inhabitants in Southern California.
someone stole my name

Eureka, CA

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#10
Oct 27, 2009
 
Wow, what a bunch of doublespeak from the Bureau of Wreck's Deputy director of whatever that was. This gives me an idea though, for our local water district troubles due to the now permanent closure of the pulp mill. We can ask for a 20 year extension of our water rights until we can find some project to construct that will use our water allocation. Hardee har har.

OK, getting real. Maybe we should take the idea "floated" a few years back where we would barge huge floating containers of water south and revamp it. We can refurbish the pulp mill as a water bottling plant. We can use our excess water allocation for the water. It would provide jobs, lots of them. Then we can truck it south or east. What a boon to the community that would be. As an environmental mitigation for the project, we can allow part of our water to stay in the river so fishies can swim. How bout that?
someone stole my name

Eureka, CA

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Oct 27, 2009
 
I am waiting for investors to call me about my idea. Why isn't my phone ringing?
Alginon

Eureka, CA

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#12
Oct 28, 2009
 
And rebuild the railroad to deliver our "Six Rivers Water" to a thristy world, good thinking, it's a win, win for Humboldt Co.
Middle-o-the-roa d

Sacramento, CA

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Oct 28, 2009
 
someone stole my name wrote:
I am waiting for investors to call me about my idea. Why isn't my phone ringing?
Actually, pretty good idea. Only modification to your propsal would be that any water shipped south should come from the sewage outfall.....

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