Teen murderer gets life

Teen murderer gets life

There are 11 comments on the The Ashland City Times Online story from May 6, 2006, titled Teen murderer gets life. In it, The Ashland City Times Online reports that:

Jason Clinard's moment of reckoning, the settling of the debt owed society for taking the life of school bus driver Joyce Gregory, came abruptly.

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Sheila Weaks

AOL

#1 May 10, 2006
I am glad that boy got life. I moved from Dover shortly after this happened. My 5 year old son was on that bus when he shot Joyce. I left work when I heard what happened because I feared for my childs safety. Joyce was a wonderful woman and will always hold a place in the hearts of people around Dover. I hope that they hang a picture of her in that boys cell and make him look at it everyday for the rest of his life, to let him know that there was NO REASON for his actions. If I were on the jury I would have said hang him!
Karen McKay

Wetumpka, AL

#2 May 23, 2006
I do believe Jason Clinard needs to spend a long time in prison for what he did, however, I can not understand through out this whole ordeal...."if his family knew he was a problemed child, depressed and needed help....WHY didn't they get him help?" I am a parent of 2 small children that attend Montgomery County Schools and after that terrible day...I dreaded having to place my children on the school bus,however, I have to work so for me there is no alternative way to get them to and from school. My kids are lucky to have Mrs. Long as their bus driver, she too is a very special, caring person who seems to care about all of her kids on the bus. Being a school bus driver should not have to fall under a dangerous occupation - What is this world coming to? You can say what you want...but when they took prayer out of the school systems...in came all this violence! May God be with the Gregory family and may God have mercy on Jason's soul.
Conserivative Republican

United States

#3 Mar 11, 2008
Depressed? His problem wasn't depression it was PURE EVIL. When you are depressed YOU KILL YOURSELF, not other's. When you are evil then you stoop to low down, murdering ways.

He needs the death penalty.

I am southern-gent who is a Republican, so I support the death penalty. I am not a soft on crime, murderer supporting DEMOCRAT liberal.
JUDITH

Shreveport, LA

#4 Mar 11, 2008
I agree Jason Clinard deserves the death penalty but because due to what I've learned Roper v Simmons or something like that he will only get life in prison. What I'm against is all these appeals that are costly and should be outlawed along with the possibility of paroling another killer. You can not rehabilitate a psychopath which I might add has no soul. How do I know? I know from personal experience with a psychopath that murdered my precious son Matthew on
March 14, 2007. How I've survived this long is something I just can't explain except to say I intend to see this low life scum of the earth burden on society prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
Mary

United States

#5 Mar 12, 2008
As a mom of 2 teenage boys and as a resident of this county, this story deeply touched my heart. When I first moved here, I was appalled and shocked at the way too many children here have to live. I am amazed of the abuse children here suffer through daily that is allowed and unstopped. It is definitely not from many wanting to be able to do something, though. I know it hurts many others as much as it hurts me to know that until last week there was absolutely no help, support, guidance, or compassion shown through any accessible yet productive resource for any of the children who asked for or showed signs of needing serious help from reliable adults, outside of too few a number of concerned pastor families and good citizens.( SC finally has found a place for the Child Advocacy Center). I have seen and witnessed first hand too many times the appalling state which troubled kids here have to settle for living in. Some have no decent homes, no safe places to go, never regular healthy meals, and some like Jason lacked this list of basic necessities on top of no adult supervision, no coherent adults he could rely on, no programs he could have access to, and no reason to think that what he did was going to have any consequence other than more people who don't care. Only when it came to an adult getting hurt, did anyone even notice Jason. Don't grimace; Does anyone here EVER listen to what the teens and preteens have to say, REALLY? Does anyone ever put the effort into providing support and positive activities for anyone outside their circle of church groups or family? No. From experience, this is sadly one of the most uncaring, un-self-sacrificing,
un-Christianlike communities that exists. It's a fight for survival for most adults here, let alone the for the children we have under our care. What Jason did was more than unthinkable to most people here, but to him, the reason it BECAME thinkable was because; why SHOULD he care?
Absolutely, it was the extremest wrongest decision he could have made, but way deep down, I understood HOW it COULD have happened. There are not enough resources that teens, children, and even adults can TRULY trust to listen and help around here. There is definitely a sad lack of community spirit, let alone zero activities centered around our youth, and very saddest of all, abuse is rampant, allowed, and TAUGHT every day here. Are you mad? Good. Do something positive with that energy. Start a group. Start a shelter. Listen. Care. Help. Donate. Report. Stand up and fight against the hypocricy. Don't allow the chance for another seed of hate to grow into this magnitude of a tragedy. It's your fault, too. If you're thinking about writing a reply full of excuses, SAVE IT. I've heard them all.
Mary Stewart County TN

United States

#6 Mar 12, 2008
NOT BELFAST
Mary Stewart County TN

United States

#7 Mar 12, 2008
And, by the way....I think of Joyce's death every day, every time I see a tragedy on the news, every time I see a school bus. I in no way mean that she should have been killed, it's devestating to her family and friends, and her little grandbabies who will never have her. I just want to see someone, lots of someones, start caring about the kids who need help and who just want to be kids, all and foremost.
JUDITH

Shreveport, LA

#8 Mar 12, 2008
Mary we do everything we know to do to set the example for teenagers in our area. Our church has Youth Alive where teenagers can play basketball, pool, foosball and watch movies rated G for general viewing audiances and learn to play musical instruments if they want. We serve hamburgers, hotdogs and a little bit of everything else. All teens are supervised and are welcome as long as they behave themselves. Listen and talk about all issues associated with being a teenager. But still there are those who I might add are the most privilaged and have loving parents who dote on them giving them everything they ask for and still they are not happy. Look at what happen to our beloved and precious Matthew on March 14, 2007. Matthew had a broken kneecap and was not even able to walk and yet in the early morning hours he was kidnapped from our home and brutally murdered by a neighbor. This 15 year old neighbor was given everything he ask for and his parents loved him very much yet he still resented them. He wanted to do what he wanted to do when he wanted to do it and he did not want his mama and daddy interfering with his life so he on March 13, 2007 took his daddy's 9mm glock and shot them to death loading that gun more than one time. Then as he and possibly his older brother had planned took Matthew and transported him to his home and shot our beloved and precious baby son 9 times with more than one of his daddy's guns telling the sheriff that Matt had broken into their home and killed their parents. Later on March 14, 2007 the 15 year old confessed to having done everything. His grandfather is paying for the expensive defense lawyer and the 15 year old hates the lawyer and hates his own grandparents. He is incarcerated charged as an adult on 3 counts of first degree murder. I am of the opinion that the 15 year old should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. If the older brother is further implicated he will be put to death. Mary take care of your precious son's and get sloppy kisses everyday like it will be the last one you get. Don't forget to get lots of bear hugs enough to last a lifetime.

Deuteronomy 19:11-13
Mary Stewart County TN

United States

#9 Mar 13, 2008
Judith, I can not even begin to express how that also hurts me to hear. All children, to me, are God's gift to us all, and our own individual ones that we get are our most precious treasure. I am so very aware that you must suffer every day with memories and loss, and I am truly sorry if my opinion of Jason has offended you in any way. What you have writtren is more truer to my point, though, than you may know. Sometimes the overindulged ones, no most times, are the unhappiest ones. I was the victim many elementary years up north of the "rich" kids who had everything. What they didn't have was someone who cared enough to spend TIME not money. Jason had no one. The coach he finally asked to listen to him even said that he didn't have time to help and had believed he was not serious. His parent's were handicapped and ill equipped to offer anything but ignorance to him, and his school mates were on the same level of knowledge about life. No one knew him well enough to sense anything could be wrong. The boy who hurt your son sounds like he had it all except an adults wisdom to LOVE him, not indulge him. YOU paid the ultimate price for their thoughtlessness, and that is one of my points. We all have to watch all of our communities youth and get to know what is truly needed to keep our future communities strong for each other. It's complicated and a lot of effort, but it sounds like your group is doing a great job of realizing this, so I hope examples are being set by you all. Remember to constantly check with the school counselors to see if there is a child in need of support, maybe offer a ride with the invitation and include the parents. Not as a church thing, but as a community thing. Thanks for sharing your story with me, Judith. I will pray for your pain and loss.
Casey

Paris, TN

#10 Jun 5, 2014
I went to school with Jason...Elementary and Middle school. We were friends. I will never forget his rough voice, and the feeling I had the day that he shot MrS joyce. Jason was different from other kids, but I could relate to him because he wasent one of the "popular" kids like me. Sometimes we would sit together on the bus, and talk about how hard home life was. I can remember like it was yesterday when this kid named "Billy" Ran out of class into the woods. I remember Jason saying to me......Wish I could help him. Maybe if I just talked to him. I grew up in a single parent household, with no money, and not alot of guidance......But I could not imagine harming someone like this. Jason was a sweet kid, he was never mean or hateful or rude to anyone and I was around him a lot in school. I dont know what came over him this day, Maybe all of you think that he was possessed by the devil, but maybe he was just sick. I think that he had mental illness, because I would notice little things about Jason when we were friends...there was a time that I felt sorry for him, because his home life was not good at all. He told me one time that his father was very abusive and his mother was a drug addict and alcholic. They always had tons of people living with them in and out constantly and Jason never got any attention. He always had his little cousins or a bunch of dif kids getting on and off the bus with him.....I think that like he stated to his mother...He snapped under all the stress and bullshit that was going on in his life at home and School. At school a lot of people made fun of Jason because he was diffrent. He has a really rough voice, and freckles. Needless to say Jason didnt fit in and he was bullied at school. I think when Mrs joyce turned him in for using tobacco products, that he got in a lot of trouble at home....because his parents didnt have the money to take him back and forth to school and he was suspended from the bus. I know that he was beaten badly for getting in trouble on the bus, and he felt like he had to take care of his problem like his parents always took care of him when he was bad. By abusing him, harming him. Im not saying that he did the right thing or even that he has an excuse but I think that he was and does struggle with mental illinesses.
Brenda

United States

#11 Jul 4, 2016
Casey wrote:
I went to school with Jason...Elementary and Middle school. We were friends. I will never forget his rough voice, and the feeling I had the day that he shot MrS joyce. Jason was different from other kids, but I could relate to him because he wasent one of the "popular" kids like me. Sometimes we would sit together on the bus, and talk about how hard home life was. I can remember like it was yesterday when this kid named "Billy" Ran out of class into the woods. I remember Jason saying to me......Wish I could help him. Maybe if I just talked to him. I grew up in a single parent household, with no money, and not alot of guidance......But I could not imagine harming someone like this. Jason was a sweet kid, he was never mean or hateful or rude to anyone and I was around him a lot in school. I dont know what came over him this day, Maybe all of you think that he was possessed by the devil, but maybe he was just sick. I think that he had mental illness, because I would notice little things about Jason when we were friends...there was a time that I felt sorry for him, because his home life was not good at all. He told me one time that his father was very abusive and his mother was a drug addict and alcholic. They always had tons of people living with them in and out constantly and Jason never got any attention. He always had his little cousins or a bunch of dif kids getting on and off the bus with him.....I think that like he stated to his mother...He snapped under all the stress and bullshit that was going on in his life at home and School. At school a lot of people made fun of Jason because he was diffrent. He has a really rough voice, and freckles. Needless to say Jason didnt fit in and he was bullied at school. I think when Mrs joyce turned him in for using tobacco products, that he got in a lot of trouble at home....because his parents didnt have the money to take him back and forth to school and he was suspended from the bus. I know that he was beaten badly for getting in trouble on the bus, and he felt like he had to take care of his problem like his parents always took care of him when he was bad. By abusing him, harming him. Im not saying that he did the right thing or even that he has an excuse but I think that he was and does struggle with mental illinesses.
Ive talked to Jason a lot recently. He is always so sweet and polite. How could they charge a kid as an adult. They said a convicted by a jury of his peers. How many 14 year olds were on that jury. Im sorry for the lady that lost her life and her family but come on. What kinda world is this?

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