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Judges shoot down Coleman request on excluded ballots

There are 52 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Feb 18, 2009, titled Judges shoot down Coleman request on excluded ballots. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

This text is replaced by the Flash movie. Won't you please reconsider, Republican Norm Coleman asked the judges hearing his case to overturn Democrat Al Franken's lead in the U.S. Senate race.

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Stop Whining

Saint Paul, MN

#1 Feb 19, 2009
Coleman attorney Ben Ginsberg said the court still has to deal with what he called a quagmire, a fatal flaw, an inconsistent and impossible situation.

It's not a quagmire. It was a good attempt on your part to change the course of the election through the judicial system because your unhappy with the results.

It is time to seat our newly elected Senator, AL Franken!
Steve

Saint Paul, MN

#2 Feb 19, 2009
Stop Whining wrote:
Coleman attorney Ben Ginsberg said the court still has to deal with what he called a quagmire, a fatal flaw, an inconsistent and impossible situation.
It's not a quagmire. It was a good attempt on your part to change the course of the election through the judicial system because your unhappy with the results.
It is time to seat our newly elected Senator, AL Franken!
Bulls**t! Seems like there's a lot of whining on both sides. I find it interesting on how these judges have ruled, seeing as how most of them are democrats. From the beginning it was seen as though everything Franken's attorneys asked for they received, and everything Coleman attorneys asked for they were denied. I think you need to remember that there are many people out there(50%) that voted for Coleman who are now feeling disenfranchised. If this has to go to the U.S. Supreme Court to rule, then so be it!
Rad Rethuglican

Saint Paul, MN

#3 Feb 19, 2009
From the story:
"Regrettably, the court has stepped in some legal quicksand today," said Ginsberg.
The judges with seeming acquiescence from Coleman's attorneys banned another category Wednesday — ballots from voters whose witnesses didn't include any part of their address under their name.
While the Coleman legal team is protesting the decision, they are also obeying it.

So, Coleman attorney Ben "I escaped from the House of Wax" Ginsberg thinks the Court has "stepped" in something he called "legal quicksand." Me thinks Ginsberg has actually stepped in the vast pile of "legal manure" generated by the Coleman legal team's efforts in this shotgun excuse for a trial.

Coleman's lawyers are desperate as they think they are ratcheting up the pressure on the three judge panel with nasty public criticism. However, at the same time, they know that throwing public cheap shots at the judges in the middle of the trial shows a level of dread over the outcome that is rivaled only by its stupidity. Oh yeah, insult the judges you're trying to persuade ... doesn't that fall into the category of something you learned not to do in kindergarten, let alone law school?

Coleman and his lawyers are slowly rotating over the fire, turning into "Legal Toast," while they're dangling in the wind and and tilting at windmills, all at the same time. Analysis: NOT GOOD.

Yet none of that will change the increasingly certain outcome: Senator Al Franken!
Rad Rethuglican

Saint Paul, MN

#4 Feb 19, 2009
I think Coleman needs to get Michele Bachmann a Minnesota Attorney License and get her into the Courtroom. She's on a roll again after publicly shaming Minnesota before the nation again with her recent wild and baseless accusations and demonstrably false comments straight from the Rush Limbaugh script.

Yup, Michele Bachmann is EXACTLY what Norm Coleman needs RIGHT NOW to front his legal team in this trial. It's time for the Rethuglicans to put their money where their mouth is, so to speak.
RYK

Saint Paul, MN

#5 Feb 19, 2009
To state the obvious...the judges are afraid that Coleman will take the lead and they are just not going to let that happen
Latte Liberal

Minneapolis, MN

#6 Feb 19, 2009
Steve wrote:
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Bulls**t! Seems like there's a lot of whining on both sides. I find it interesting on how these judges have ruled, seeing as how most of them are democrats.
Let's see, one appointed by a Republican Governor, one appointed by Jesse Ventura and one appointed by a Democratic governor. Of course in Steve's eyes that does add up to most of the judges being Democrats, just like the Canvassing Board was "mostly Democrat" too. Right, Steve?
Please check your math and report back pronto.
Steve wrote:
<quoted text>From the beginning it was seen as though everything Franken's attorneys asked for they received, and everything Coleman attorneys asked for they were denied.
Kindly provide examples of "everything Franken attorneys asked for" being received. Actually, the Panel has bent over backwards accommodating the drone that is Friedberg. Thus far, none of the accusations Norm made of double counting, of the horrible election fraud, none of that has been brought forth as evidence. Wonder why?
Steve wrote:
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I think you need to remember that there are many people out there(50%) that voted for Coleman who are now feeling disenfranchised.
Coleman got less than 42% of the vote. Let's start with that. And just because his/her candidate loses, does not make the voter disenfranchised. It just makes them a guy who voted for the loser. Now, they are entitled to feel any way they want about it, including outrage and pings of guilt for not sending enough money, but that dissing the french fries? PAH-Leeez!
Steve wrote:
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If this has to go to the U.S. Supreme Court to rule, then so be it!
What do you want to bet the SCOTUS flips this one aside, should it get that far?
TIA! Carry on,
~ Latte

“I'm not crying... Winning!”

Since: Oct 08

Twin Cities, USA

#7 Feb 19, 2009
RYK wrote:
To state the obvious...the judges are afraid that Coleman will take the lead and they are just not going to let that happen
Yeah, that makes sense.....

Good to see the conspiracy nuts are up an at 'em this morning.
Michele

Minneapolis, MN

#8 Feb 19, 2009
Mr. Coleman obviously does not know how to concede gracefully. How sad that he feels compelled to show the world that he's a poor loser. Take a page from Al Gore's life - concede gracefully, and with dignity (Al Gore certainly would have had far more reason to question ballots than Mr. Coleman does).

The recount was done due to the closeness of the race for Senate. A decision was made, end of story.

Honestly, I would not want to see Mr. Coleman take office again. I would worry about his choices, and whether or not he truly had the best interests of the people at heart. I didn't vote for Mr. Coleman, but I didn't vote for Mr. Franken either - I wrote in a candidate instead (someone I felt would really look at the best interests of our country and its' people)- Tim Pawlenty. Too bad he wasn't on the ballot.
Hastings

Saint Paul, MN

#9 Feb 19, 2009
Norm-maybe you could try-"pretty, pretty please!"
Joe Btfsplk

Inver Grove Heights, MN

#10 Feb 19, 2009
Hastings wrote:
Norm-maybe you could try-"pretty, pretty please!"
It worked for Obama to get Geitner confirmed.
colemans exit

Saint Paul, MN

#11 Feb 19, 2009
this thing is over franken will be the one. coleman breought much of this on himself. when the election got weird he hired some lightweight lawyers knaack etal and they proved their worth ZERO. Franken had a team in place from before the election. His lead lawyer worked for Kerry so he was no lightweight. In addition Franken had ritchie on his side. ritchie was smart enough to set up the election canvassing board and he took the 2 republicans off of the supreme court for this job know ing full well that this would preclude them for the next step which it did. after franken is appointed you can bet that ritchie will get a plumb job in washington dc it is guarneteed. this guy is a member of ACORN and MoveOn.org .Coleman for a smart guy you got rolled big time. now the residents of the state will have 2 clowns representing us in wash Angry aland Cluless amy. be proud.And for all you angy liberals out there just as many people voted against all as voted for him so do not take such a glorious stand
rich

Saint Paul, MN

#12 Feb 19, 2009
Rad Rethuglican wrote:
From the story:
"Regrettably, the court has stepped in some legal quicksand today," said Ginsberg.
The judges with seeming acquiescence from Coleman's attorneys banned another category Wednesday — ballots from voters whose witnesses didn't include any part of their address under their name.
While the Coleman legal team is protesting the decision, they are also obeying it.
So, Coleman attorney Ben "I escaped from the House of Wax" Ginsberg thinks the Court has "stepped" in something he called "legal quicksand." Me thinks Ginsberg has actually stepped in the vast pile of "legal manure" generated by the Coleman legal team's efforts in this shotgun excuse for a trial.
Coleman's lawyers are desperate as they think they are ratcheting up the pressure on the three judge panel with nasty public criticism. However, at the same time, they know that throwing public cheap shots at the judges in the middle of the trial shows a level of dread over the outcome that is rivaled only by its stupidity. Oh yeah, insult the judges you're trying to persuade ... doesn't that fall into the category of something you learned not to do in kindergarten, let alone law school?
Coleman and his lawyers are slowly rotating over the fire, turning into "Legal Toast," while they're dangling in the wind and and tilting at windmills, all at the same time. Analysis: NOT GOOD.
Yet none of that will change the increasingly certain outcome: Senator Al Franken!
a governemnt employee back at his desk writing blogs on our dollar, the taxpayers that is not the governemnt employees
rich

Saint Paul, MN

#13 Feb 19, 2009
Rad Rethuglican wrote:
I think Coleman needs to get Michele Bachmann a Minnesota Attorney License and get her into the Courtroom. She's on a roll again after publicly shaming Minnesota before the nation again with her recent wild and baseless accusations and demonstrably false comments straight from the Rush Limbaugh script.
Yup, Michele Bachmann is EXACTLY what Norm Coleman needs RIGHT NOW to front his legal team in this trial. It's time for the Rethuglicans to put their money where their mouth is, so to speak.
typical angry rhetoric coming from the typewriter of this tool. attack rush and bachman all the while ignoreing amy and the leaderless obama

“The Lord of Sound Logic.”

Since: Nov 08

Fargo, ND

#14 Feb 19, 2009
Ginsberg should be aware that when you kick dirt on the umpire's shoes in baseball, you get thrown out of the game but you get to return tomorrow. In the courtroom, you can get thrown in jail and fined for contempt of court.
IF Ginsberg and crew have evidence, they should present it. Fishing season for ballots has ended.
Redeemer

Plymouth, MN

#15 Feb 19, 2009
rich wrote:
<quoted text>typical angry rhetoric coming from the typewriter of this tool. attack rush and bachman all the while ignoreing amy and the leaderless obama
HEY Rich can I call
you DICK? bachman and rush are nutty.who cares
but I do want my vote for Al to be counted.And coleman is really starting to embarrass Mn. with
this begging the justices to overthrow the votes
orginal coleman behavior! Please let this circus
end. and bachman is definately a mental health
patient may medical scientist help her.
Officer and A Gentleman

Minneapolis, MN

#16 Feb 19, 2009
I object. Overruled. I strenously object. Overruled. But you Honor ...(The part of Demi Moore played by Ben Ginsberg)

Since: Nov 08

Minneapolis, MN

#18 Feb 19, 2009
Rad Rethuglican wrote:
I think Coleman needs to get Michele Bachmann a Minnesota Attorney License and get her into the Courtroom. She's on a roll again after publicly shaming Minnesota before the nation again with her recent wild and baseless accusations and demonstrably false comments straight from the Rush Limbaugh script.
Yup, Michele Bachmann is EXACTLY what Norm Coleman needs RIGHT NOW to front his legal team in this trial. It's time for the Rethuglicans to put their money where their mouth is, so to speak.

The fact that minnesota has given angry al enough votes to be within stealing distance of the senate shames minnesota. Bachmann, the only fiscal conservative minnesotan in congress, is our pride and joy!

Now tell us how the three judges feel, or no soup for you!

“The Lord of Sound Logic.”

Since: Nov 08

Fargo, ND

#20 Feb 19, 2009
Centinel wrote:
<quoted text>
The fact that minnesota has given angry al enough votes to be within stealing distance of the senate shames minnesota. Bachmann, the only fiscal conservative minnesotan in congress, is our pride and joy!
Now tell us how the three judges feel, or no soup for you!
Enough votes to be within stealing distance? I don't think it's stealing when you get more votes than your opponent. That's called WINNING.
Sharon - Eagan

Saint Paul, MN

#21 Feb 19, 2009
Norm need to move on! Give it up and stop being a baby!
The Greatest Observer

Saint Paul, MN

#22 Feb 19, 2009
More frivolous lawsuits/appeals from Coleman keep Franken's vote out of the Senate. NormWorm knows he won't prevail. What a buffoon, this "Chiclets" Coleman.

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